How you feel about Chris Rock's ? vs Black People Stand Up?
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DisagreeIt's funny how these days many of you call people ? for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.
So-called ? are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that '? ' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach. -
AgreeLou_Cypher wrote: »Just comedy.
Im a fan of Chris Rock.
Whaaat??? Lmao You gon have to sit tha ? down for this biddy -
AgreeI love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.
No, we are not all perfect.
No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light
The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.
Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses
But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?
So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?
If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it
So when Nas says:Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late
Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin
E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education
Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations
Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel
With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well
Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve
He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood
Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.
That's why I had to preface the poll by saying "don't tell me about what white people think". Sometimes we don't have an opinion without involving white people.
Nice catch, as you can see with a lot of folk 'what will whitey think' is first thing on their mind. -
Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's ? . Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.Undefeatable wrote: »It's funny how these days many of you call people ? for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.
? = people who ain't about ? in lifeSo-called ? are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that '? ' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach.
I don't know where they hell you grew up, but there are a tons of ? in hoods across America. Just like there are tons of rednecks across America too. This isn't even a race thing, it's a life purpose thing. Most Black people go to work, support their families, etc, like everyone else. But we have a small minority who ain't about ? in life, and ? them. White people don't cape for rednecks, so why should we cape for lowlifes in our community.
Simply put, we need to self-police our community from low-lifes(because we know the regular cops won't do ? ). We let too much ? slide and then run campaigns to "understand" those messing up ? in our neighborhoods. And we should be criticizing people for shining lights on things, quite the oppostie. -
look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us -
ThaNubianGod wrote: »
Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's ? . Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.Undefeatable wrote: »It's funny how these days many of you call people ? for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.
This.
How are we going to improve as a community if we can't even look in the mirror and make adjustments?
Or have an honest conversation...
Is ALL the reponsibility external?
We are more than the result of white supremacy and its systemic affects.
We are people with free will, not a literal product of our respective environments.Ajackson17 wrote: »I believe he said he regret ever doing that skit because of how people took it and the way racists refer to use it as a solid proof of what they are doing is good for the betterment.
Couldn't agree more. It's sad how whites twisted and used it to fit their own racist narrative. For that reason, maybe he should have treaded more carefully- given his platform and influence...
That doesn't mean it isn't funny ...
Or that his point is void of any merit...
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Already Home_17 wrote: »look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us
Whoa chill, the white man made them ? that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.
They have no choice.... -
DisagreeThaNubianGod wrote: »
Actually, this is the whole point. Anything that is self-critical of our community is seen as coonish these days. It didn't used to be that way, and it's ? . Black people have always been the most open and honest of any group, and it's how we've improved ourselves over the years.Undefeatable wrote: »It's funny how these days many of you call people ? for the slightest thing, and yet you're willing to let this abomination slide. Hell, many of you are the ones saying that you don't see a problem.
? = people who ain't about ? in lifeSo-called ? are just black people who have who have been particularly harmed by white supremacy. Or at least, most are. The historical context here is everything. So in dehistoricizing this Rock makes it appear that '? ' just appear out of nowhere, and for this he deserves our everlasting reproach.
I don't know where they hell you grew up, but there are a tons of ? in hoods across America. Just like there are tons of rednecks across America too. This isn't even a race thing, it's a life purpose thing. Most Black people go to work, support their families, etc, like everyone else. But we have a small minority who ain't about ? in life, and ? them. White people don't cape for rednecks, so why should we cape for lowlifes in our community.
Simply put, we need to self-police our community from low-lifes(because we know the regular cops won't do ? ). We let too much ? slide and then run campaigns to "understand" those messing up ? in our neighborhoods. And we should be criticizing people for shining lights on things, quite the oppostie.
I have no problem with being self-critical, but if you are gonna act like "black lowlifes," as you call them, just exist as white ones do, then I'm going to have a big problem, for they are in truth the creation of white oppression. So it is very much a race thing. -
DisagreeAlready Home_17 wrote: »look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us
Whoa chill, the white man made them ? that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.
They have no choice....
We can all agree no race has a monopoly on ignorance, but "? " didn't just sprout independently
A lot of the delinquent and self destructive behavior you referred to is the result of internalized racism, mental health issues such as PTSD, childhood abuse, etc
Places like Southside Chicago is the result of explicit, racially purposeful and at times inadvertently racist policy that was pursued at all levels of government
So subscribing to this distinction between "? " and "blk people" separating their shortcomings from the racism and other forms of oppression that produced them is dehumanizing
Same as when the media paints blk shooters as "thugs" or "militant" and empathizes with white mass shooters as the "mentally ill" who were victims of a failing mental health system
It also does nothing to address the conditions which produces "? "
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It's just comedy.desertrain10 wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
Wait...
So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?
Strawman
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Agreedesertrain10 wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
Wait...
So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?
Strawman
Lmao
I been told yall, when a mfer start a sentence with 'wait', and/or
'So you sayin', THEY REACHIN!!!
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It's just comedy.One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.
Im happy that I could laugh about it to.
On a basic level that joke is hilarious
Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...
I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!
Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo. -
It's just comedy.? been saying ? like that and they ain't even trying to tell jokes. Chris Rock did not pull this from his ass.
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It's just comedy.I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.
No, we are not all perfect.
No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light
The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.
Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses
But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?
So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?
If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it
So when Nas says:Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late
Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin
E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education
Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations
Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel
With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well
Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve
He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood
Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.
How do u get away with not being called a ? by these folks? -
It's just comedy.Ima just wait for the Coming to America thread to be made.
Akeem was from a hypothetical Country called Zamunda with a pet elephant name Babaar... and he claimed that he made a living as a Goat herder.
The sh*t was funny in 88 and I can still laugh at it 27 years later even if some of the jokes are insensitive.
But if someone made the same exact movie today. Hell would break loose. -
Disagreedesertrain10 wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
Wait...
So you agree with the notion certain black people are not worthy of basic levels of respect and deserve everything that comes to them?
Strawman
I just was just looking for him to clarify his position
Anyways...
How u do feel about the whole "? " vs" black people" routine?
Add something of worth to the discussion -
AgreeSkuurrt_Angle wrote: »I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.
No, we are not all perfect.
No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light
The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.
Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses
But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?
So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?
If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it
So when Nas says:Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late
Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin
E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education
Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations
Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel
With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well
Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve
He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood
Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.
How do u get away with not being called a ? by these folks?
Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:
? know i got these bars -
DisagreeShuffington wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.
Im happy that I could laugh about it to.
On a basic level that joke is hilarious
Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...
I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!
Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.
I dunno
“I hide my money in books. Why? Because ? don’t read”
I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a ?
No matter the intent
Especially when I'm just another ? to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me
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What i hated about it, when i was in the service, white people would always want to talk about it and quote it.
The Office - Michael's Chris Rock Routine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQIQuDL8aA -
DisagreeSkuurrt_Angle wrote: »I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.
No, we are not all perfect.
No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light
The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.
Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses
But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?
So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?
If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it
So when Nas says:Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late
Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin
E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education
Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations
Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel
With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well
Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve
He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood
Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.
How do u get away with not being called a ? by these folks?
Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:
? know i got these bars
Lol
You're not nearly as smart or enlightened or as bold as you think you are
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desertrain10 wrote: »Shuffington wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.
Im happy that I could laugh about it to.
On a basic level that joke is hilarious
Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...
I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!
Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.
I dunno
“I hide my money in books. Why? Because ? don’t read”
I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a ?
No matter the intent
Especially when I'm just another ? to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me
I was laughing after reading that quote. Lmao. That was funny.
You didn't think that was funny? "? don't read" lmao
"A civil war, black people vs ? "...lmao
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It's just comedy.I don't really like Chris Rock and I don't believe all comedy or entertainment should be taken seriously, in fact most of it is just what it is...entertainment.
While I don't like that "? " exist, they do exist. Now you can blame circumstances, white supremacy or whatever you want but I'm just as black as the guy who sells dope to someone who is just as black as himself. Im just as black as the thugs who shoot at kids or shoot at each other. Im just as black as the people who shoot up clubs here in Detroit damm near every weekend.
That said, what super special white supremacy affects them but has no effect on me or the majority of other Black people?
The vast majority of Black folks dont and dont even consider doing the ? these "? " do.
They exist, it is what it is. You want to blame white folks? Fine but ignoring niggerism and constantly excusing ? ? isn't helping and won't help.
I had a cousin who told me he would rather rob than work, when did white folks send that memo out because I swear me, my friends, brothers and other cousins didn't get it. He a ? ? ...period. If he wasn't my cousin I could be on the list.
I have another cousin that DID rob another one of our cousins and she was ? during the robbery (home invasion) by his homeboys who he brought with him. No white people were involved...except the cops who arrested his punk ass.
What super special white supremacy made this ? happen? -
desertrain10 wrote: »Already Home_17 wrote: »look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us
Whoa chill, the white man made them ? that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.
They have no choice....
We can all agree no race has a monopoly on ignorance, but "? " didn't just sprout independently
No one said that...desertrain10 wrote: »Already Home_17 wrote: »look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us
Whoa chill, the white man made them ? that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.
They have no choice....
...subscribing to this distinction between "? " and "blk people" separating their shortcomings from the racism and other forms of oppression that produced them is dehumanizing
People are not "produced" ...
Circumstances can provide significant obstacles ... But we are not our circumstances.desertrain10 wrote: »Already Home_17 wrote: »look in that crowd
it's damn near 100% black
he was talking amongst his people and speaking real ?
was there a bit of hyperbole? sure
but y'all know the "? " he was referring to
the ? that ? eachother over senseless ?
the ? who killed that child weeks ago because they had a beef with his father
the ? that steal from others who worked hard for what they have
the ? that are shamelessly ignorant
the ? who sell drugs to their own killing their community
and so on
are we really giving these ? a pass? why can't we call them out? ? hurting our "image". they're hurting us
Whoa chill, the white man made them ? that kid. White supremacy made them steal that TV.
They have no choice....
It also does nothing to address the conditions which produces "? "
Definitely true.
But a comedy skit does little at all besides entertain.
What CAN do something, is shifting the overall mindset to not make excuses for the "? " destroying our communities.
YES, white supremacy is the leading contributing factor. But we are not helpless ...
And EVERYTHING is not the "white man's" fault -
Agreedesertrain10 wrote: »Skuurrt_Angle wrote: »I love it man. The ability to speak freely and address big fat gigantic elephants in the room.
No, we are not all perfect.
No, our race, or ANY race, are not all bastions of hope and beacons of light
The only problem is ....that admission and conversation left the black community.
Similar to rappers who rap the truth then if they blow and it gets out to the masses
But does that change its purity of the message or how YOU view it?
So if TODAY, Black Girl Lost is covered on CNN and goes mainstream , does that change how YOU feel about? Make it any less true?
If 2nd Childhood suddenly became famous, does that change how YOU feel about it
So when Nas says:Baby girl she's always talkin name droppin hangin late
Drinkin smokin hates her baby daddy, craves shoppin
E poppin Ecstasy takin, won't finish her education
Best friend she keeps changin, stuck with limitations
Lustin men, many hotels, Fendi Chanel
With nothin in her bank account frontin she do well
Her kid suffers he don't get that love he deserve
He the Sun, she the Earth, single mom, even worse
No job never stay workin, mad purty
Shorty they call her the brain surgeon
Time flyin she the same person, never matures
All her friends married doin well
She's in the streets yakkety yakkin like she was 12
Honey is twenty-seven, argues fights
Selfish in her own right, polite, guess she's in her second childhood
Would the fact that white people get a hold of that change what YOU feel about it? Foh If so them crackas own you and you the real sellout, not Chris Rock.
How do u get away with not being called a ? by these folks?
Well im not one so that helps, but im also too honest and they know im right. I say what people not bold enough to say. Also they know they arms not long enough to box lls Typical reaction when i post:
? know i got these bars
Lol
You're not nearly as smart or enlightened or as bold as you think you are
Bc you're a woman people are afraid to tell you this:
When it comes to 'debates', you're an ? .
And i say that in the spirit of fairness bc i'd tell the same to a dude who posts like you. You should be flattered Im addressing you as an equal and not tiptoeing around your ? , aka patronizing you
Stop rage debating with ? logic and flawed rebuttals -
Disagreedesertrain10 wrote: »Shuffington wrote: »One of the best comedy routines done. He crushed that ? . I play that ? once a week on my iPod.
"I ain't lookin' over my back for the media....I'm lookin for ? !" Ted Koppel ain't never took ? from me....? have."
I say its just comedy because you know what .... I f*ckin laughed ...lol.... No FG's either.
Im happy that I could laugh about it to.
On a basic level that joke is hilarious
Growing up in Bmore watching people you know go to jail or get murdered...
I wasn't looking for whitey and the media when my mom got robbed at the ATM. I wasn't looking for the cops because they didn't come to our neighborhoods. The fact that I can laugh at Chris Rocks joke is a relief to me cause the hood was rough.!
Did this joke single handedly help bring additional destruction to the black community. NO .Does this joke ignore the greater context to why our communities are in the shape they're in as a whole. Yes, but that doesn't make the joke any less funny to me imo.
I dunno
“I hide my money in books. Why? Because ? don’t read”
I just don't such lines funny coming from any person, even if that person is a ?
No matter the intent
Especially when I'm just another ? to those who haven't had the pleasure of getting to know me
I was laughing after reading that quote. Lmao. That was funny.
You didn't think that was funny? "? don't read" lmao
"A civil war, black people vs ? "...lmao
Why?
Seriously....
