Chicago Pig Gave Differing Accounts of Fatal Shootings...

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-quintonio-legrier-bettie-jones-shooting-met-20160317-story.html
Discrepancy in reports on whether LeGrier swung bat at cop in fatal shootings

A Chicago police officer who fatally shot a baseball bat-wielding college student and accidentally killed his neighbor in December did not initially tell investigators that the teen had swung the bat at his head, police reports obtained by the Tribune show.

It wasn't until Officer Robert Rialmo was re-interviewed two days after the Dec. 26 shooting that he first alleged 19-year-old Quintonio LeGrier had twice tried to hit him with the aluminum bat – once with a downward swing and again with a backward swipe -- before the officer opened fire, according to a detective's supplemental report.

In an earlier statement the morning of the shooting, Rialmo had said only that LeGrier had the bat raised over his head and refused commands to drop it.

Basileios Foutris, who represents LeGrier's father, Antonio, in a wrongful death lawsuit against the officer and the city, said the differing statements showed Rialmo was adding details to justify the use of force. Foutris noted that in a counterclaim filed earlier this year against the teen's estate alleging emotional trauma, Rialmo gave an even more vivid account of the alleged attack, describing how he felt the whoosh of air as the bat passed inches from his head.

"He's now given three statements about the events of that night, and every time there is a little more detail," Foutris said. "As time goes on, he's covering himself more and more."

But Rialmo's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, said it's "not surprising" for police to initially write down a more bare-bones version and then come back later with more details. Brodsky also said Rialmo has told him he believes he did mention the bat swing in the first interview and that the detective taking the report may have just neglected to write it down.

"The second time is when you get all those little details," Brodsky said.


Brodsky also noted there were many discrepancies in what LeGrier's father told police in separate interviews — including where he was standing when he heard the shots.

"It's just the nature of these things," Brodsky said.

The shooting occurred about 4:30 a.m. the day after Christmas as Rialmo and his partner were responding to calls of a domestic disturbance between LeGrier and his father in their apartment in the 4700 block of West Erie Street.

According to Rialmo's initial account, which was given to detectives about an hour and a half after the shooting, the neighbor, Bettie Jones, had answered the door and pointed them to an upstairs apartment. As she turned to walk back to her unit, LeGrier emerged from the doorway brandishing a bat over his head, gripped in both hands, according to Rialmo's account.

Rialmo said he started backing down the stairs and drew his service weapon while ordering LeGrier to drop the bat. In fear of his life, Rialmo fired three or four times, and LeGrier grabbed his chest, uttered an expletive and collapsed. Rialmo said he was standing at the base of the porch stairs by the time he stopped firing. When he returned to the porch he saw Jones, 55, lying on her back with her legs sticking out of the doorway to her apartment into the vestibule.

Rialmo said he then saw LeGrier's father coming down the stairs and Rialmo yelled to him, "Dad, what the (expletive)?"

Rialmo said LeGrier said several times, "Hey, you did what you had to do," according to the reports.

At noon on Dec. 28, more than 48 hours after the shooting, Rialmo returned to the Area North police headquarters to "clarify details," the reports state.

In the second statement, Rialmo said he "heard someone charging down the stairs from the second floor" and then saw LeGrier step between him and Jones in the vestibule.

Rialmo said LeGrier was advancing with the bat raised above his head before swinging the bat "with an overhand downward swing and then a half backwards swing," the report said.

Rialmos' partner, Anthony La Palermo, also gave two statements to investigators, records show. In both interviews, he said he was looking down at the steps as he stood behind Rialmo and never saw LeGrier swing the bat.

LeGrier was shot on the left side of his chest, the lower left side of his back, the right buttock and the left arm and suffered graze wounds to his chest and right shoulder, according to LeGrier's autopsy report. Jones died of a single gunshot wound to the chest, Cook County medical examiner records show.


Rialmo's accounts contrast with that given in the lawsuits brought by the LeGrier and Jones families.

So this murderous pig has given three different accounts about what happen in these killings.. Yet he still hasn't been charged or arrested.. Smdh...

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  • stringer bell
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    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/varying-stories-for-police-officer-in-legrier-jones-shooting/
    The Chicago police officer who killed Quintonio LeGrier and Bettie Jones offered different accounts of what happened in interviews with police detectives in the two days after the shootings, police reports obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times suggest.

    In the first interview, Officer Robert Rialmo stated that LeGrier, 19, approached him wielding an aluminum bat above his head, according to the reports. But in Rialmo’s second interview two days later, he said the teen took two swings at him with the bat — swings that Rialmo’s partner told detectives he never saw.

    Separately, City Hall on Thursday released several hours of video and audio recordings related to the Dec. 26 shootings in response to Freedom of Information Act requests from the Sun-Times.

    Those new records don’t include video of the incident itself, but they do provide more details about what occurred. Rialmo and his partner, Anthony LaPalermo, took about 10 minutes to respond to the West Side domestic dispute, according to the recordings. After they arrived, no more than three minutes had passed before Rialmo fatally shot LeGrier and Jones.

    LaPalermo and Rialmo arrived at the home of Antonio LeGrier, Quintonio LeGrier’s father, around 4:38 a.m. after he and his son had both placed calls to 911. The cops were driving a police van that wasn’t equipped with a GPS tracking device or dashcam when they pulled up to the two-flat at 4710 W. Erie, the newly obtained records show.


    Jones — Antonio LeGrier’s downstairs neighbor — let police in. Police have said she was accidentally killed when Rialmo opened fire.

    The police reports provide the public with both Rialmo’s and his partner’s version of events for the first time. Rialmo is on administrative leave from the department.

    According to Rialmo’s interview less than two hours after the shooting, he said he rang the doorbell, and Jones motioned that there was trouble upstairs. Jones, 55, “turned to walk back into her apartment” when “Quintonio LeGrier pulled the front door all the way open” with the bat above his head. He’d been staying with his dad while on break from Northern Illinois University.

    “Rialmo started to back up as LeGrier started onto the front porch” and drew his gun while ordering LeGrier to drop the bat. “Rialmo in fear of his life discharged his weapon three to four times. … Rialmo stated he was stepping backwards down the stairs while discharging his service weapon and stopped at the bottom of the [porch] stairs on the walkway leading to the house.”

    The Cook County medical examiner later determined that LeGrier was shot six times and Bettie Jones once.

    Antonio LeGrier had come down from the apartment upstairs, and Rialmo yelled “Dad, what the f—” at him. He said he heard Antonio LeGrier respond, “Hey, you did what you had to do.”

    Basileios “Bill” Foutris, an attorney for Antonio LeGrier, said the comment attributed to his client is “absolutely not” true. “It defies words,” Foutris said. “He’s there watching his son bleed to death.”

    LaPalermo, first interviewed at 6:22 a.m. the morning of the shooting, told detectives he was just behind Rialmo to the right and that “Jones turned back towards her apartment.” LaPalermo said he saw LeGrier holding the bat and told Rialmo to “look out” before Rialmo fired “six to eight times.” LaPalermo also said he’d drawn his gun while going down the porch stairs but never fired.


    The officers were interviewed separately again on Dec. 28. This time, Rialmo said he “heard someone charging down the stairs from the second floor” and that “Quintonio LeGrier opened the door leading from the second floor apartment and stepped into the vestibule.”

    Rialmo told detectives he started backing out the door when LeGrier stepped in between Jones and him. Moments later, he said, LeGrier began swinging the bat.

    “Rialmo started to back up as LeGrier started onto the front porch. Quintonio LeGrier swung the baseball bat at P.O. Rialmo with an overhand downward swing and then a half backwards swing,” according to the police report.

    In his second interview, LaPalermo replied that he was “looking down as he backed down the stairs and did not see Quintonio LeGrier swing the bat.”

    Joel Brodsky, an attorney for Rialmo, said his client had not changed his story. The police reports are summaries of detectives’ interviews with Rialmo, Brodsky said, and might leave out details that the officer provided.

    “They could both be fully accurate,” Brodsky said. “I don’t see anything different.”

    But Foutris, the attorney for Antonio LeGrier, said Rialmo’s accounts strain credibility. “The longer in time you go, the more dangerous Quintonio appears,” he said.


    Relatives of Quintonio LeGrier and Jones have sued the city, and Rialmo responded with his own lawsuit against the LeGriers. The four-year officer alleges he has experienced emotional distress, pain and suffering.

    The batch of recordings and other records released by City Hall show how quickly the incident turned deadly.

    At 4:18 a.m., Quintonio LeGrier called 911 and told the dispatcher “someone’s threatening my life.” The dispatcher hung up when LeGrier declined to give his name, as did another dispatcher when LeGrier called back about two minutes later.

    Finally, after LeGrier called a third time, at 4:21 a.m., a 911 dispatcher promised to send police. LeGrier’s father called 911 three minutes later.

    At 4:26 a.m., a dispatcher called over police radio for vehicle 1172R, a marked police van that was taken out that night by Rialmo and LaPalermo.

    The records do not reveal where the officers were before the call.

    The dispatcher told Rialmo and LaPalermo they needed to make a “well being” check at 4710 W. Erie. “A male caller said someone is threatening his life,” she said, adding it was a “domestic” incident involving a 19-year-old “with a baseball bat.”

    There were no radio communications for more than 10 minutes after that.

    But a street-corner surveillance camera recorded the van turning east onto Erie from Cicero Avenue at 4:37, according to the time stamp on the video. The two-flat where LeGrier and Jones lived was half a block away.

    Less than three minutes later, LaPalermo made a frantic call over the radio. “Shots fired!” he said. “We got two down, two down.”

    The dispatcher asked if the cops were all right. One officer said yes. “F—-’ step up on the cars and the ambo right now!”

    Seconds later, firefighters were also sent. By 4:43, other police were arriving on the scene. Nine squad cars with lights flashing sped around the corner of Cicero and Erie, according to the video recording there, and within minutes 11 more police cars parked on Cicero.

    Brodsky, Rialmo’s attorney, said the video time stamps may not be precise. “It’s not like they’re tied into one central clock.”

    Rialmo and LaPalermo sat in their car for “a few minutes” upon arriving at the two-flat, Brodsky said, but “Everything else happens really fast after that.”

    The entire incident — from the time the cops stepped out of their car to the time Rialmo fired his gun — took “anywhere from three to four minutes,” Brodsky said.
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
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    White privilege at its finest >_>
  • Trillfate
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    Pig spelled backwards is Fuckingliar
  • The Lonious Monk
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    I can understand how more details may legitimately be added to later accounts, but how can anyone put more weight into an account that comes later than one that's closer in time to the incident?
  • 5th Letter
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    I can understand how more details may legitimately be added to later accounts, but how can anyone put more weight into an account that comes later than one that's closer in time to the incident?

    That may be true but considering that Chicago has a history of covering up for cops so idk.