Is Ray Charles The Father Of The Modern Era Of Music (Rock/R&B/Top 40)

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  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    edited March 2016
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    jono wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure I specified "music".

    I wasn't talking about dancing.

    Who is the most sampled artist in music?

    MostSampledArtists.jpg
    In every way the answer is JAMES BROWN

    This does not take into effect the countless rock n roll artists who blatantly stole hit singles from muddy waters, chuck berry, ray charles, and a few others. Elvis Presley, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, The Beach Boys, and several others made their careers of songs that wasn't theirs. That in itself surpasses James Brown.
  • CapitalB
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    who's Malcolm X's daddy??!
    or Dr. King's for that matter?!

    sayin all that to say SO WHAT!!? AND!?
  • blackgod813
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    Listen the style of rock is all little richard the screaming the wild style is his
  • caddo man
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  • luke1733
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    edited April 2016
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    I think Ray Charles spawned Sly and The Family Stone and a lot of Prince's musical timing breaks, but I'd actually have to give this modern era from 1980 until the present to Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder. Their styles broke enough from Ray Charles to be considered there own and so many singers today from: Usher, Chris Brown, Bruno Mars, Justin timberlake all the way to about 60 others I can keep naming have mimicked Michael's dancing and singing moves (and some of them aren't even aware). The way they use the vibrato is directly linked to Michael Jackson and no other singer.
    Now the way they run the scale of their vibrato and skip notes using their voices to stretch and then go up and down in the same breath using vibrato is directly the dna solely attributed to Stevie Wonder. This is for men and women, black and white. Wanye from Boys II Men used to get on my nerves doing it. I wish more singers would Just stick to one damn note like Bill Withers.

    Ray, of course laid his mark on Stevie the way Stevie laid his mark on MJ but they were all different enough to patent their own styles the same way Ray was influenced by Nat King Cole yet managed to create his own style.
    Problem with modern music is, many artists aren't creating a new style or even expanding on old styles. Instead they are mimicking an old style and doing it less artistically than their influences.

    I'm speaking as someone who owns: RAy charles music and used to go to his concerts as a kid with my Dad at Stone mountain, and a fan of: Jackie Wilson, Ray Charles, Little Richard, James Brown, Little Stevie Wonder/the boy wonder, Nat King Cole, Sly and the Family Stone list can keep going
  • Jabu_Rule
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    edited April 2016
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    caddo man wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvKDr8AgvK8

    I will leave this right here.

    This was posted in the comments on that video.

    Arthur Crudup - That's All Right
    1946
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQUvCkV20

    Ike Turner/Jackie Brenston - Rocket 88
    1951
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbfnh1oVTk0


    Rock (or rocking) was already in full swing in the 40s
  • Jabu_Rule
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    Chris Powell and the Five Blue Flames - Rock the Joint
    1949
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOMvCbm8o30

    Roy Brown Boogie At Midnight
    1949
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNtrxNMD514
  • Idiopathic Joker
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  • tompetrez3
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    edited April 2016
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  • Splackavelli
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    Otis redding was the first rock n roll artist.
  • 5 Grand
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    That ? go back to the 1920s bruh

    https://youtu.be/h3yd-c91ww8

    Alright I appreciate the feedback and I don't want to split hairs but the song you posted ISN'T from the modern era in any way, shape or form. There's no drums, its just a guy singing over a guitar, how is that Rock N Roll?

  • 5 Grand
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    edited April 2016
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    If you guys want to play, "I can go back further than you" Here's something from 1934. Its sounds similar to rap music and you can hear traces of rap, but its not modern era music. You couldn't play this at a club.

    My point is that you could play Ray Charles music at a club, at the right time (if everybody is ? enough)

    Old Aun't Dinah - 13 Year Old with "Skills"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGIR5VxTh6s