Which is more difficult to accomplish? Being a great NFL RB or a being a great NBA center
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Being a great NBA centerThis dude is talking about misinformation but says Patrick Ewing is 6'9
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its....JOHN B wrote: »This dude is talking about misinformation but says Patrick Ewing is 6'9
So what you're saying is there is no way that Patrick Ewing isn't 7 feet tall? -
Being a great NBA centerits....JOHN B wrote: »This dude is talking about misinformation but says Patrick Ewing is 6'9
So what you're saying is there is no way that Patrick Ewing isn't 7 feet tall?
No what I'm saying is you're wrong and your attempt to be funny failed miserably -
its....JOHN B wrote: »its....JOHN B wrote: »This dude is talking about misinformation but says Patrick Ewing is 6'9
So what you're saying is there is no way that Patrick Ewing isn't 7 feet tall?
No what I'm saying is you're wrong and your attempt to be funny failed miserably
You're judge, jury, and executioner huh? I'm still figuring out how to meet your specific standards. I'll continue to try and meet the level of quality that you display in all of your posts. -
Being a great NFL running backHe looks 7 feet to me
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Being a great NFL running backits....JOHN B wrote: »Center easy, great running backs pop up every year, who was the last great center? Dwight in his prime maybe, right now the closest one to being great is who Cousins? And he can't get a team to the playoffs, Towns will be great, but there are hardly any great centers in the league anymore
Can't agree with this. How does less competition make it harder for you to be great? The presence of greatness makes it harder for another player to be great.
Dwight Howard is a good example. He wouldn't be looked at the same if he came along in the 80's/90's era because of the competition. -
Being a great NBA centerMan Ewing is 7'1 and shaq is 7'2...
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Being a great NFL running backA center having to be 7 feet tall is silly. Ewing is like 6-9, Shaq is 6-11 I believe. The size is irrelevant. The label of being a Center has a specific skill set to me, such as protecting the rim and rebounding. If you can't do those things your not a big man to me. Center and Power Forward are pretty much interchangeable, but I'll save that for another conversation.
@its....JOHN B just throwing the word great around all ? nilly. Your a great back if they can't consistently stop you with 8 in the box. Gurley(hasn't done enough), Bell(isn't on the field enoug), Freeman(not consistent), ain't great, and McCoy straddles the fence between good and great.
All that said, I'll go with running back because there are so many factors out of your control. There are so many ways a center can make an impact on the floor without shooting.
You only have to have a good first half of a season to be great now. You ain't know? -
Being a great NBA centerSooooooooo Dwight wouldn't be considered great if he played in the 80's/90's....but that doesn't help my point?
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Being a great NFL running backits....JOHN B wrote: »Sooooooooo Dwight wouldn't be considered great if he played in the 80's/90's....but that doesn't help my point?
No, because you said he may be considered a great for the time he did play (a time with less talent at Center). That's showing you don't need to be as good now, as you did before, to be considered great
Since the role of dominant big man is there for the taking right now in the NBA, it's easier to come in and be a great center because who's stopping you, or setting that high bar you have to meet?
If you want to be a great NFL RB Peterson, McCoy, and Charles, are there setting a high ass bar for you. -
Being a great NBA centerNBA Center
You can probably go 20 deep naming great NFL RB's.
There's maybe 10 great NBA Centers. -
Being a great NFL running backRunning Back because:
1.) Being a great center just requires height...that's natural, takes no effort...and this is proven by the fact that most centers can't shoot...because they didn't put the work in to learn how to shoot, they've always naturally been able to play because they're tall. (Being a great NBA point guard/shooting guard would have been a better argument to have)
2.) A running back is only as good as his linemen...he could be a complete beast but unless he's some unreal Adrian Peterson type player...he can't break 4-5 tackles. Today's defensive players are too big, fast, and eager to ? someone up for that to happen. Therefore the running back position is dependent on other people...the more other people suck the more effort you have to put in to be considered great
3.) It's a passing league in the NFL now. Which means pretty soon running backs are going to be graded by the same criteria as receivers (receptions, passing tds, ect) Which means a great running back can't just be good at blocking and doing the thing in name of it's position (running), they have to be extremely versatile.
4.) Media hype...Hasaan Whiteside blocks 2 shots "amazing...one of the best centers in the league today, revival of the center position. Very little is expected of a center today...so when they do anything it's considered amazing. 12 POINTS! 11 REBOUNDS...? THE TALLEST MAN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GETTING REBOUNDS!!!!! THE CENTER POSITION HAS BEEN REVIVED -
Being a great NBA centerRunning Back because:
1.) Being a great center just requires height...that's natural, takes no effort...and this is proven by the fact that most centers can't shoot...because they didn't put the work in to learn how to shoot, they've always naturally been able to play because they're tall. (Being a great NBA point guard/shooting guard would have been a better argument to have)
2.) A running back is only as good as his linemen...he could be a complete beast but unless he's some unreal Adrian Peterson type player...he can't break 4-5 tackles. Today's defensive players are too big, fast, and eager to ? someone up for that to happen. Therefore the running back position is dependent on other people...the more other people suck the more effort you have to put in to be considered great
3.) It's a passing league in the NFL now. Which means pretty soon running backs are going to be graded by the same criteria as receivers (receptions, passing tds, ect) Which means a great running back can't just be good at blocking and doing the thing in name of it's position (running), they have to be extremely versatile.
4.) Media hype...Hasaan Whiteside blocks 2 shots "amazing...one of the best centers in the league today, revival of the center position. Very little is expected of a center today...so when they do anything it's considered amazing. 12 POINTS! 11 REBOUNDS...? THE TALLEST MAN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GETTING REBOUNDS!!!!! THE CENTER POSITION HAS BEEN REVIVED
Oh that's it? I had no idea -
Well one thing to point out is there is basically a physical restriction that limits who can play center. You can be a 5'8 RB and be decent depending on your other qualities. You can't be a 5'8 center. So I don't know if I'd say that means being a great center is harder, but the pool of people that even have a reasonable chance of being a center at all, let alone a great one is much smaller.
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Being a great NFL running backRunning Back because:
1.) Being a great center just requires height...that's natural, takes no effort...and this is proven by the fact that most centers can't shoot...because they didn't put the work in to learn how to shoot, they've always naturally been able to play because they're tall. (Being a great NBA point guard/shooting guard would have been a better argument to have)
2.) A running back is only as good as his linemen...he could be a complete beast but unless he's some unreal Adrian Peterson type player...he can't break 4-5 tackles. Today's defensive players are too big, fast, and eager to ? someone up for that to happen. Therefore the running back position is dependent on other people...the more other people suck the more effort you have to put in to be considered great
3.) It's a passing league in the NFL now. Which means pretty soon running backs are going to be graded by the same criteria as receivers (receptions, passing tds, ect) Which means a great running back can't just be good at blocking and doing the thing in name of it's position (running), they have to be extremely versatile.
4.) Media hype...Hasaan Whiteside blocks 2 shots "amazing...one of the best centers in the league today, revival of the center position. Very little is expected of a center today...so when they do anything it's considered amazing. 12 POINTS! 11 REBOUNDS...? THE TALLEST MAN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GETTING REBOUNDS!!!!! THE CENTER POSITION HAS BEEN REVIVED
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If you gathered everybody who was 6' tall and put them on the basketball court, some of them would be naturally athletic while some of them would be uncoordinated and not good at sports. Just think back in high school, or elementary school. Some people just aren't good at sports. Some people are naturally gifted and some aren't.
You can't just assume that just because somebody is 7' tall that he's naturally good at sports.
Its possible that somebody could be tall enough to be center, but doesn't have the natural ability to play center, just like somebody who is 6' tall and doesn't have the natural ability to play running back.2800 7 footers in the world currently,
http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2012/08/11/how-many-7-feet-tall-people-are-in-the-world/Though there is no exact number for how many people are at least 7 feet tall, a detailed estimate from 2012 concluded that there are approximately 2,800 7-footers in the world.
http://www.ask.com/world-view/many-people-7-feet-tall-cb4f9973908981f1There are several theories of how many 7-footers roam the earth, based more on projections than actual facts. Trying to track down every seven-foot tall human in a world with 7.25 billion people has its difficulties.
However, here are a couple of numbers to chew on.
One internet study indicates that out of those 7.25 billion people in the world, 2,800 are seven feet tall or better. That’s one in every 1.6 million people.
Those numbers are little too large to digest, so let’s bring them down a bit. High school sports website MaxPreps.com received 15,000 high school basketball rosters this winter. Of the 185,421 players listed, 40 were seven feet or taller. That’s one in every 4,635 high school players.
The tallest documented high school player on those winter roster is 7-foot-6 Tacko “Taco” Fall of Tavares, Fla. He has committed to play college basketball at Central Florida next fall.
Currently, there are 36 seven-footers in the NBA, out of 390 on active rosters. That’s about 11 percent.
Finally, a study in 2011 claimed that the probability of a U.S. citizen at least seven feet tall to play in the NBA was 17 percent. The same study indicates that a person between 6-6 and 6-8 has a .007 percent chance of playing in the NBA.
http://www.heraldextra.com/sports/high-school/basketball/boys/how-rare-are--footers-it-s-hard-to-say/article_bec5365f-73c5-5dea-bb4d-32df14758f64.html
According to the latest research, there are 2,800 people who are 7 feet tall. Just like high school, think of how many people went to your school and how many of them were good at basketball. Then think how many people on your high school basketball team were good enough to get a college scholarship. Probably very few.
My point is that its harder to be a great center because one of the prerequisites is that you have to be 7 feet tall and only 1 in every 1.6 million people is that height.
When a baby is born, he has a greater chance of being a NFL running back than a NBA center. -
Lol at having to be 7' or over to be considered a great Center. Most of their heights are kind of generous. Olajuwon was 6'10" schooling ? . Look at him next to Shaq, who's 7'1". You can't tell me he's only one inch shorter lol.
Zo was like, 6'8", look at him next to 7'2" Mutombo
Wes Unseld was 6'7" beasting back in the day. Height doesn't make you great, skill set and drive makes you great. If height alone made you dominant, Shawn Bradley wouldn't have gotten put on so many posters over the course of his career lol. -
Being a great NFL running backYeah Wes Unseld was 6'7" but the league was weaker back then. A lot of players went to the ABA instead of the NBA.
Any statistics during the ABA era are skewed because the best players weren't necessarily playing in the same league. -
Being a great NFL running backRunning Back because:
1.) Being a great center just requires height...that's natural, takes no effort...and this is proven by the fact that most centers can't shoot...because they didn't put the work in to learn how to shoot, they've always naturally been able to play because they're tall. (Being a great NBA point guard/shooting guard would have been a better argument to have)
2.) A running back is only as good as his linemen...he could be a complete beast but unless he's some unreal Adrian Peterson type player...he can't break 4-5 tackles. Today's defensive players are too big, fast, and eager to ? someone up for that to happen. Therefore the running back position is dependent on other people...the more other people suck the more effort you have to put in to be considered great
3.) It's a passing league in the NFL now. Which means pretty soon running backs are going to be graded by the same criteria as receivers (receptions, passing tds, ect) Which means a great running back can't just be good at blocking and doing the thing in name of it's position (running), they have to be extremely versatile.
4.) Media hype...Hasaan Whiteside blocks 2 shots "amazing...one of the best centers in the league today, revival of the center position. Very little is expected of a center today...so when they do anything it's considered amazing. 12 POINTS! 11 REBOUNDS...? THE TALLEST MAN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GETTING REBOUNDS!!!!! THE CENTER POSITION HAS BEEN REVIVED
Don't know whether to hit lol or WTF or flag this ? -
texasdaking88 wrote: »Running Back because:
1.) Being a great center just requires height...that's natural, takes no effort...and this is proven by the fact that most centers can't shoot...because they didn't put the work in to learn how to shoot, they've always naturally been able to play because they're tall. (Being a great NBA point guard/shooting guard would have been a better argument to have)
2.) A running back is only as good as his linemen...he could be a complete beast but unless he's some unreal Adrian Peterson type player...he can't break 4-5 tackles. Today's defensive players are too big, fast, and eager to ? someone up for that to happen. Therefore the running back position is dependent on other people...the more other people suck the more effort you have to put in to be considered great
3.) It's a passing league in the NFL now. Which means pretty soon running backs are going to be graded by the same criteria as receivers (receptions, passing tds, ect) Which means a great running back can't just be good at blocking and doing the thing in name of it's position (running), they have to be extremely versatile.
4.) Media hype...Hasaan Whiteside blocks 2 shots "amazing...one of the best centers in the league today, revival of the center position. Very little is expected of a center today...so when they do anything it's considered amazing. 12 POINTS! 11 REBOUNDS...? THE TALLEST MAN ON THE BASKETBALL COURT IS GETTING REBOUNDS!!!!! THE CENTER POSITION HAS BEEN REVIVED
Don't know whether to hit lol or WTF or flag this ?
His first point was bad, but the other 3 were pretty legit -
Being a great NBA centerLol at having to be 7' or over to be considered a great Center. Most of their heights are kind of generous. Olajuwon was 6'10" schooling ? . Look at him next to Shaq, who's 7'1". You can't tell me he's only one inch shorter lol.
Zo was like, 6'8", look at him next to 7'2" Mutombo
Wes Unseld was 6'7" beasting back in the day. Height doesn't make you great, skill set and drive makes you great. If height alone made you dominant, Shawn Bradley wouldn't have gotten put on so many posters over the course of his career lol.
At Ewing rocking J's while Jordan was busting they ass in the playoffs. -
Being a great NBA centerIt's less players in the NBA as a whole compare to the NFL so getting into the NBA in general is harder.
Now being an all time great center is even harder because it's way less people on earth who are that tall and athletic -
Revolver Ocelot wrote: »Lol at having to be 7' or over to be considered a great Center. Most of their heights are kind of generous. Olajuwon was 6'10" schooling ? . Look at him next to Shaq, who's 7'1". You can't tell me he's only one inch shorter lol.
Zo was like, 6'8", look at him next to 7'2" Mutombo
Wes Unseld was 6'7" beasting back in the day. Height doesn't make you great, skill set and drive makes you great. If height alone made you dominant, Shawn Bradley wouldn't have gotten put on so many posters over the course of his career lol.
At Ewing rocking J's while Jordan was busting they ass in the playoffs.
Right, that ? looks weird as hell. I hope he was just wearing the for all star weekend lol.
