Lord Jamar on Troy Ave Shooting: It's Real N!gga ? , But Legally He's F#cked…

nex gin wrote: »

Louis Devinear wrote: »

nex gin wrote: »

blackrain wrote: »

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xxCivicxx wrote: »

I completely believe what Troy Ave is saying happened

That still doesn't clear up why he decided to fire the gun in a crowded area outside of where he was shot in the first place

Plus wasn't he the original instigator of everything that happened that night anyway?

blackrain wrote: »

So this ? does a freestyle saying he took the gun and shot at somebody, then says he's innocent for shooting at somebody? His lawyer must hate him

I don't think he's arguing whether or not he shot at somebody, his defense will be based around what happened leading up to him shooting..

If he can get the judge/jury to see that the circumstances called for him to shoot inside the club then it's a strong possibility that he can be found innocent..

Basically,
if he has a good enough excuse for shooting inside the club, they may have leniency on him..

This ? came into the room, looked around to see who was there, and then shot. What part of that is going to give life to a good reasoning to shoot? It's already been deemed it's stupid to say he was still in fear at that point because once he walks into that room and stops to look around he's no longer in self defense mode. He went looking for someone, whoever it was, to shoot at that point and the fact that it was done in a crowd full of people is going to be his ultimate downfall.

Right. That ? had time to run to the bodega and grab some Dutches.....drive to Jersey and cop some Timberlands, hunt a subway rat then come back to shoot into a crowd.....A CROWD full of people...lol. That video is more "let me get these ? back" than "self defense" or "fearing for my life".

Okay I get what you saying. Now put the funny ? to the side.

Say that's the only exit.
Say he did disarm the ? that shot him and his man. Say tax and his people get up out spot first. Mind you it's the only exit. You in Troy and his people shoes. You in a dead end, ? just clapped you and your man is dying. The assailants flee before you. Again you in a dead end

Who's to say them ? wouldn't have came back and finished Troy and the rest of his people's?

What you gone do sit there and wait? Or make sure you get out of there alive?

Again ? just clapped you and killed your man. You in a dead end. You gotta use the same exit these ? used 45 seconds before you. You got the hammer.

You coming out with the gun in your waist,in the small of your back, tucking it in your shoe? Or you coming out on point ready to fire?

A lot of you ? talk with your sidebar comments, cause you never been through no ? like that in your life. So its a lot easier for you to access ? from the outside looking in.

I'm not saying Troy right I'm not saying he wrong. But self preservation is the 1 rule of survival. If that's what he felt was necessary to survive. More power to him.

You have just as much information as the rest of us. At the point where he walks into a room firing a handgun, it would be reasonable to say that he could be perceived as the aggressor. Anybody in the way of that gunfire would probably be fearing for their lives more than he was fearing for his own at that point. There is nothing in that video that indicates that he was in a shootout at that point. He wasn't dodging bullets and returning fire. He wasn't in his home defending himself (no castle doctrine defense). He wasn't running away from danger. He was pursuing somebody and trying to shoot them. The video doesn't show that anyone was trying to use deadly force against him at the time he was pursuing them. You CANNOT use deadly physical force if you can retreat to safety. It clearly didn't look like he was trying to retreat to safety in that video. If I'm thinking "self preservation" the last thing I would do is run in the direction of the people who may have just tried to shoot me. You make a lot of assumptions about what mfs have been through in their lives. The prison's are filled w/ mfs who made life altering, emotional, snap judgement decisions in the heat of the moment. He may have did what he felt he had to do to survive, but at the end of the day he made a questionable choice that may cost him his freedom. Now he has to deal w/ the repercussions of his choices. It is what it is. More power to him.