School me on Jill Stein and The Green Party ?

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fortyacres
fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
Since it seems like people look at her as the saviour , what are her policies , what is her history and why do you think she will be the one to deliver ya'll to the promised land ?

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  • ghostdog56
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    She's a racist white person just like trump and Hillary and burnie. Voting for anyone in this election is voting for the exact same person
  • manofmorehouse
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    fortyacres wrote: »
    Since it seems like people look at her as the saviour , what are her policies , what is her history and why do you think she will be the one to deliver ya'll to the promised land ?

    She's the candidate Bernie supporters that are still caught in their feelings will flock behind to prove that they're revolutionary. Nevermind that the same ? she's doing now would be seen as pandering by anyone else. This election cycle is exposing alot of misinformation and gullible voters
  • SneakDZA
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    that awkward feeling when you realize you entered a Clinton voter support group thread.

    carry on, guys.
  • bambu
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    I am voting for Stein......

    Miss me with all that she cannot win/ wasting my vote ? .......

    It's my vote.......

    Green Party Platform;

    2. Racial Discrimination

    The development of the United States has been marked by conflict over questions of race. Our nation was formed only after Native Americans were displaced. The institution of slavery had as its underpinnings the belief in white supremacy, which we as Greens condemn. In slavery's aftermath, people of color have borne the brunt of violence and discrimination. The Green Party unequivocally condemns these evils, which continue to be a social problem of paramount significance.

    The community of people of African ancestry whose family members were held in chattel slavery in what is now the United States of America have legitimate claims to reparations including monetary compensation for centuries of human rights violations, including the Transatlantic slave trade now recognized by the United Nations as a "crime against humanity." As our Nation has done in the past with respect to the Choctaw, the Lakota, the Lambuth, and more recently for Japanese Americans and the European Jewish community, reparations are now due to address the debt still owed to descendants of enslaved Africans.

    We commit to full and complete reparations to the African American community of this nation for the past four hundred plus years of genocide, slavery, land-loss, destruction of original identity and the stark disparities which haunt the present evidenced in unemployment statistics, substandard and inadequate education, higher levels of mortality including infant and maternal mortality and the practice of mass incarceration. We recognize that reparations are a debt (not charity) that is owed by our own and other nations and by the corporate institutions chartered under our laws to a collective of people. We believe that the leadership on the question of what our nation owes to this process of right ought to come from the African American community, whose right to self-determination and autonomy to chart the path to healing we fully recognize.

    We understand that until significant steps are taken to reverse the ongoing abuses; to end the criminalization of the Black and Brown communities, to eradicate poverty, to invest in education, health care and the restoration and protection of human rights, that it will be impossible to repair the continuing damage wrought by the ideology of white supremacy which permeates the governing institutions of our nation.

    http://www.gp.org/social_justice/#sjCivilRights


  • Black Boy King
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    that awkward feeling when you realize you entered a Clinton voter support group thread.

    carry on, guys.

    i saw the username and knew he was salty about the clinton thread

    clintonites are a trip
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
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    SneakDZA wrote: »
    that awkward feeling when you realize you entered a Clinton voter support group thread.

    carry on, guys.

    so i cant ask a question , wtf.
  • semi-auto-mato
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    bambu wrote: »
    I am voting for Stein......

    Miss me with all that she cannot win/ wasting my vote ? .......

    It's my vote.......

    Green Party Platform;

    2. Racial Discrimination

    The development of the United States has been marked by conflict over questions of race. Our nation was formed only after Native Americans were displaced. The institution of slavery had as its underpinnings the belief in white supremacy, which we as Greens condemn. In slavery's aftermath, people of color have borne the brunt of violence and discrimination. The Green Party unequivocally condemns these evils, which continue to be a social problem of paramount significance.

    The community of people of African ancestry whose family members were held in chattel slavery in what is now the United States of America have legitimate claims to reparations including monetary compensation for centuries of human rights violations, including the Transatlantic slave trade now recognized by the United Nations as a "crime against humanity." As our Nation has done in the past with respect to the Choctaw, the Lakota, the Lambuth, and more recently for Japanese Americans and the European Jewish community, reparations are now due to address the debt still owed to descendants of enslaved Africans.

    We commit to full and complete reparations to the African American community of this nation for the past four hundred plus years of genocide, slavery, land-loss, destruction of original identity and the stark disparities which haunt the present evidenced in unemployment statistics, substandard and inadequate education, higher levels of mortality including infant and maternal mortality and the practice of mass incarceration. We recognize that reparations are a debt (not charity) that is owed by our own and other nations and by the corporate institutions chartered under our laws to a collective of people. We believe that the leadership on the question of what our nation owes to this process of right ought to come from the African American community, whose right to self-determination and autonomy to chart the path to healing we fully recognize.

    We understand that until significant steps are taken to reverse the ongoing abuses; to end the criminalization of the Black and Brown communities, to eradicate poverty, to invest in education, health care and the restoration and protection of human rights, that it will be impossible to repair the continuing damage wrought by the ideology of white supremacy which permeates the governing institutions of our nation.

    http://www.gp.org/social_justice/#sjCivilRights


    The wife and I are seriously considering jill Stein. I would love to see her added to the debates.
  • bambu
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    Thing is.....

    Other nations with less diverse populations have more representation through multiple parties.....

    Doubt that will happen here.....


    But, I hope that the party grows and makes the gop and democrats adopt issues in its platform........


  • semi-auto-mato
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    the first thing we must do is get a third party enough votes for federal funding. jill will need 5% but the libertarian party is polling better so they may just get it. people need to stop thinking its a wasted vote or a vote for trump. like u said its ur vote so make it count.
  • bambu
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    H. Criminal Justice

    OUR POSITION

    Reduce the prison population, invest in rehabilitation, and end the failed war on drugs.

    The United States has the highest incarceration and recidivism rates of industrialized countries, while our nation's criminal justice system in general is too often inhumane, ineffective, and prohibitively expensive. With less than five percent of the world's population, the United States locks up nearly a quarter of the world's prisoners. Our law enforcement priorities place too much emphasis on drug-related and petty, non-violent crimes, and not enough on prosecution of corporate, white collar, and environmental crime. The majority of prisoners are serving terms for non-violent, minor property and drug addiction crimes, or violations of their conditions of parole or probation, while the poor, the under-educated and various racial and ethnic minorities are over-represented in the prison population.

    The negative effects of imprisonment are far-reaching. Prisoners are isolated from their communities and often denied contact with the free world and the media. Access to educational and legal materials is in decline. Prison administrators wield total authority over their environments, diminishing procedural input from experts and censoring employee complaints.

    Our priorities must include efforts to prevent violent crime and address the legitimate needs of victims, while addressing the socio-economic root causes of crime and practicing policies that prevent recidivism.

    Greens oppose the increasingly widespread privatization of prisons. These prisons treat people as their product and provide far worse service than government-run prisons. Profits in privately run prisons are derived from understaffing, which severely reduces the acceptable care of inmates. Greens believe that greater, not lesser public input, oversight and control of prisons is the answer.

    Greens call for an end to the "war on drugs", legalization of drugs and for treating drug abuse as a health issue. The "war on drugs" has been an ill conceived program that has wasted billions of dollars misdirecting law enforcement resources away from apprehending and prosecuting violent criminals, while crowding our prisons with non-violent drug offenders and disproportionately criminalizing youth of color.

    Greens also call attention to the fact that more than forty percent of those 2.3 million locked down come from America's black one-eighth.

    The Green Party recognizes that our nation's ostensibly color-blind systems of law enforcement and crime control, from police practices to prosecutorial prerogatives, to mandatory sentencing and zero-tolerance have effectively constituted an ubiquitous national policy of racially selective mass incarceration, a successor to Jim Crow as a means of social control, a policy that must be publicly discussed, widely recognized, and ultimately reversed. The nearly universal, though largely unspoken nature of this policy makes piecemeal reforms not accompanied by public discussion of the larger policy ineffective outside the context of a broad social movement.

    GREEN SOLUTIONS

    1. Alternatives to Incarceration

    Encourage and support positive approaches to punishment that build hope, responsibility and a sense of belonging. Prisons should be the sentence of last resort, reserved for violent criminals. Those convicted of non-violent offenses should be handled by alternative, community-based programs including halfway houses, work-furlough, community service, electronic monitoring, restitution, and rehabilitation programs.

    Treat substance abuse as a medical problem, not a criminal problem. Free all non-violent incarcerated prisoners of the drug war. Provide treatment to parolees and probationers who fail a drug test instead of re-incarceration.

    Release prisoners with diagnosed mental disorders to secure mental health treatment centers. Ensure psychological and medical care and rehabilitation services for mentally ill prisoners.
    Release prisoners who are too old and/or infirm to pose a threat to society to less expensive, community-based facilities.

    Make reduction of recidivism a primary goal of parole. Treat parole as a time of reintegration into the community, not as a continuation of sentence. Provide community reentry programs for inmates before their release. Provide access to education, addiction and psychological treatment, job training, work and housing upon their release. Provide counseling and other services to the members of a parolee's family, to help them with the changes caused by the parolee's return. Prevent unwarranted search without reasonable cause to parolees and their homes.

    Increase funding for ? and domestic violence prevention and education programs.

    Never house juvenile offenders with adults. House violent and non-violent juvenile offenders separately. Continue the education of juveniles while in custody. Substantially decrease the number of juvenile's assigned to each judge and caseworker to oversee each juvenile's placement and progress in the juvenile justice system.

    2. Prison Conditions, Prisoner Treatment and Parolees

    Ensure prison conditions are humane and sanitary, including but are limited to heat, light, exercise, clothing, nutrition, libraries, possessions, and personal safety. Meet prisoners' dietary requirements. Ensure availability of psychological, drug, and medical treatment, including access to condoms and uninterrupted access to all prescribed medication. Minimize isolation of prisoners from staff and one another only as needed for safety. Make incarceration more community-based, including through increased visitor access by families. Establish and enforce prison policies that discourage racism, sexism, homophobia and ? .

    Ban private prisons.

    Implement a moratorium on prison construction. Redirect funds to alternatives to incarceration.
    Require that each state prison system install a rehabilitation administrator with equal authority as the highest authority.

    Ensure that all prisoners have the opportunity to obtain a General Education Diploma (i.e. high school equivalency diploma) and higher education. Education has proven to reduce recidivism by 10%.

    Ensure the First Amendment rights of prisoners, including the right to communicate with journalists, write letters, publish their own writings, and become legal experts on their own cases.

    Provide incarcerated individuals the right to vote by absentee ballot in the district of their domicile, and the right to vote during parole.

    Restore the right to hold public office to felons who have completed their prison sentence.

    Conduct racial and ethnic disparity impact studies for new and existing categories of offenses.
  • Swiffness!
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    Lol she said WiFi melts children's brains

    Its kinda ironic that Nader is the best candidate they've run
  • bambu
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    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Lol she said WiFi melts children's brains

    Its kinda ironic that Nader is the best candidate they've run


    Context b....

    She is right......

    https://youtu.be/IGQjaSJP2Xg


  • trilladelic
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    She picked Ajamu Baracka as her running mate
    https://youtu.be/YqGfXF28wps

    They both had disparaging words about Bernie recently but ? it I'm in..
  • kid_khameleon
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    http://www.jill2016.com


    She's got some good ideas but she a little to hippie for me