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  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hilary is good for white people and terrible for black people. Trump is bad for everyone, except wealthy people.

    Trump doesn't follow the rules of the behind closed doors racists, and that ? white people off because that proves that black people have merit to their claims of systemic oppression. In contrast, Trump reminds black people that white people still hate us and ? hasn't changed, which ? off the jungle fever black people, and is a shock to the impressionable black people.

    Trump being president can cause a lot of unity to happen, as he's the enemy of both groups. If you're into voting and want to see real progress, he's actually a solid choice given his opponent. If you're the average corporate slave ? who's stuck in the matrix, then vote for Hilary as she'll keep the status quo of Amerikkka slowly killing off the black race in 'stealth'. We can just request that she does the dougie every time a ? gets shot by law enforcement, so we can be reminded she has our back. We could probably get Bill to play the horn as he continues to build his estate off of Haiti reform money.
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    skpjr78 wrote: »
    And this racist pos is the GOP nominee for the presidency of the United States smmfh. Could someone please explain to me how a sane black person could be a ? Republican in 2016.

    ? spreads more than zika
  • fortyacres
    fortyacres Members, Moderators Posts: 4,480 Regulator
    yet ? here will fixate only on Hilary's "Predators" comment in which she has time and again apologized for whether believe she is genuine or not.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The KKK openly supports Trump
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any black person that supports the same candidate as the ? deserves a curb stomping until a seizure accures...
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 Members Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't understand how as a Black man a presidential candidate answering that he would institute nationwide stop and frisk when asked how he would sooth racial tensions doesn't raise red flags for you. ? the 90s for a second we talking about right now...today.

    Him saying that is ? mind boggling.
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Stiff wrote: »
    skpjr78 wrote: »
    And this racist pos is the GOP nominee for the presidency of the United States smmfh. Could someone please explain to me how a sane black person could be a ? Republican in 2016.

    Sure, they could be a wealthy businessman and feel that Trump will help them further their hustle.

    Most black people are well aware of how most white people feel about us, so Trump saying it out loud doesn't move us. Actions like the Clintons attack on black people is considered a far bigger threat than a media ? who runs his mouth.

    Trump is the ? that talks ? , Hilary is the ? that busts his guns.

    Bruh...

    Trump spent his OWN money trying to lobby for the death penalty for Black teenagers who turned out to be innocent and STILL won't apologize and STILL even believes they're guilty DESPITE somebody else confessing to the crime and having been proven innocent with DNA evidence

    Trump spent his OWN money stirring up racial animus for the first Black president by going on a campaign to delegitimize him by claiming he wasn't born in America and was a secret muslim

    As a landlord Trump was found to have refused to rent to Black and Puerto Rican tenants...was sued by the Federal government for it..and forced to settle [Trump never acknowledged wrong doing]. They marked applicants with codes indicated whether or not they were "colored" and directed them elsewhere...

    And now we gonna pretend like Trump don't "bust his guns"? You really think that a Trump presidency with the full support of a Republican majority House and Senate will just be some bluffing? The history and track record of Trump just doesn't support your argument.

    1. None of that ? you posted is a shock. He's a white businessman who sees black people in the same light the media paints us in.

    2. Trump acting as a businessman doesn't have anywhere near the restrictions as Trump will have as president, so stop with the paper thin argument. Hilary is a ? kingpin who knows how to do ? in secret, before you know it all of you ? will be checkmated. They're not comparable.

    3. Nothing you posted is close to as bad as what the Clintons have done. You guys are just being petty to support your little hate for Trump's brash delivery.

    FOH with your little groupthink session.
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Copper wrote: »
    Any black person that supports the same candidate as the ? deserves a curb stomping until a seizure accures...

    I can't tell if you were already referring to Hilary or not, but same concept goes for any black person voting for the leader of the New Jim Crow laws:
    Clinton championed the idea of a federal “three strikes” law in his 1994 State of the Union address and, months later, signed a $30 billion crime bill that created dozens of new federal capital crimes, mandated life sentences for some three-time offenders, and authorized more than $16 billion for state prison grants and the expansion of police forces. The legislation was hailed by mainstream-media outlets as a victory for the Democrats, who “were able to wrest the crime issue from the Republicans and make it their own.”

    When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs. Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.”

    Some might argue that it’s unfair to judge Hillary Clinton for the policies her husband championed years ago. But Hillary wasn’t picking out china while she was first lady. She bravely broke the mold and redefined that job in ways no woman ever had before. She not only campaigned for Bill; she also wielded power and significant influence once he was elected, lobbying for legislation and other measures. That record, and her statements from that era, should be scrutinized. In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals. “They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” she said. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
  • zzombie
    zzombie Members Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Donald Trump would be a horrible president not just because of this racist ? either
  • not_osirus_jenkins
    not_osirus_jenkins Members, Banned Users Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stiff wrote: »
    skpjr78 wrote: »
    And this racist pos is the GOP nominee for the presidency of the United States smmfh. Could someone please explain to me how a sane black person could be a ? Republican in 2016.

    Sure, they could be a wealthy businessman and feel that Trump will help them further their hustle.

    Most black people are well aware of how most white people feel about us, so Trump saying it out loud doesn't move us. Actions like the Clintons attack on black people is considered a far bigger threat than a media ? who runs his mouth.

    Trump is the ? that talks ? , Hilary is the ? that busts his guns.

    Bruh...

    Trump spent his OWN money trying to lobby for the death penalty for Black teenagers who turned out to be innocent and STILL won't apologize and STILL even believes they're guilty DESPITE somebody else confessing to the crime and having been proven innocent with DNA evidence

    Trump spent his OWN money stirring up racial animus for the first Black president by going on a campaign to delegitimize him by claiming he wasn't born in America and was a secret muslim

    As a landlord Trump was found to have refused to rent to Black and Puerto Rican tenants...was sued by the Federal government for it..and forced to settle [Trump never acknowledged wrong doing]. They marked applicants with codes indicated whether or not they were "colored" and directed them elsewhere...

    And now we gonna pretend like Trump don't "bust his guns"? You really think that a Trump presidency with the full support of a Republican majority House and Senate will just be some bluffing? The history and track record of Trump just doesn't support your argument.

    haha. This ? isn't possible. Dems are going to be running things for the next 12 yrs.
    .
  • skpjr78
    skpjr78 Members Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Copper wrote: »
    Any black person that supports the same candidate as the ? deserves a curb stomping until a seizure accures...
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  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smh

    I may vote in the presidential election...and if I do it will be for Hilary....but it's so frustrating

    While Bernie was not perfect, he was the better candidate for Blk ppl ...by leaps and bounds

    Now I'm being forced to support someone I have no faith in...and for good reason

    This the flaw in having a 2 party system, we are constantly having to pick between ? candidates ....but what's a viable alternative
  • playmaker88
    playmaker88 Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    Smh

    I may vote in the presidential election...and if I do it will be for Hilary....but it's so frustrating

    While Bernie was not perfect, he was the better candidate for Blk ppl ...by leaps and bounds

    Now I'm being forced to support someone I have no faith in...and for good reason

    This the flaw in having a 2 party system, we are constantly having to pick between ? candidates ....but what's a viable alternative

    again .. how he legislated in one of the whitest states of america.. his heart was in the right place but you cant be a maverick/revolutionary in that environment.
  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.

    She has actually taken the feasible parts of Bernie's policies and folded it into the Democratic platform.

    I care less about the candidate, personally; and more about the direction they are moving the country.


    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate use of force by police officers. A clear set of rules has never existed, instead it has always been completely subjective and up to the officer's discretion as to what qualifies as "imminent danger"


    - Acknowledging Implicit Bias and Investing over $1 Billion in state-of-the-art law enforcement training at every level. Addressing issues such as alternatives to incarceration, community policing, use of force, de-escalation, crisis intervention etc.


    - Supporting federal, state and local legislation to combat racial profiling


    - Strengthening the U.S. Department of Justice’s pattern or practice unit—to better identify and investigate civil rights violations.



    - Doubling funding for the U.S. Department of Justice “Collaborative Reform” program. Helping the curation and mobilization of best practices and effective policing strategies.



    - Providing federal matching funds to make body cameras available to every police department in America.



    - Collecting and reporting national data to inform policing strategies and provide greater transparency and accountability when it comes to crime, officer-involved shootings, and deaths in custody.







    COMBAT MASS INCARCERATION


    - Reforming mandatory minimum sentencing. Mitigate the excessively long sentencing of nonviolent drug offenders. Effectively fighting against racial inequality in our criminal justice system.



    - Cutting mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses in half.

    • Allowing current nonviolent prisoners to seek fairer sentences

    Eliminating the sentencing disparity for ? and powder ? so that equal amounts of ? and powder ? carry equal sentences, and applying this change retroactively.

    Reforming the “strike” system, so that nonviolent drug offenses no longer count as a “strike,” reducing the mandatory penalty for second- and third-strike offenses.







    - Focusing federal enforcement resources on violent crime, not simple marijuana possession.




    - Prioritizing treatment and rehabilitation—rather than incarceration—for low-level, nonviolent drug offenders.





    - Dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline.

    Providing $2 billion in support to schools to reform overly punitive disciplinary policies, calling on states to reform school disturbance laws, and encouraging states to use federal education funding to implement social and emotional support interventions.




    - Ending the privatization of prisons. Removing private industry incentives to over-incarceration.




    - Promote successful re-entry by formerly incarcerated individuals

    Removing barriers and creating pathways to employment, housing, health care, education, and civic participation, including:

    •Taking executive action to “ban the box” for federal employers and contractors, so that applicants have an opportunity to demonstrate their qualifications before being asked about their criminal records.

    Investing $5 billion in re-entry job programs for formerly incarcerated individuals so that individuals can have a fair shot at getting back on their feet and becoming productive, contributing members of society.

    •Supporting legislation to restore voting rights to individuals who have served their sentences.






    - Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill






    Education

    - Launch a national campaign to modernize and elevate the profession of teaching.




    - State and Shool District funding to provide every student in America an opportunity to learn computer science.




    - Rebuild America’s schools.

    Double subsidies for efforts to fix and modernize America’s classrooms





    - Affordable College Allowing families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities.

    •All community colleges will offer free tuition.

    A $25 billion fund will support historically black colleges and universities, Hispanic-serving institutions, and other minority-serving institutions in building new ladders of opportunity for students.

    Borrowers will be able to refinance loans at current rates, providing debt relief to an estimated 25 million people. They’ll never have to pay back more than 10 percent of their income, and all remaining college debt will be forgiven after 20 years.

    •Delinquent borrowers and those in default will get help to protect their credit and get back on their feet.

    Significantly cut interest rates to reduce the burden for future borrowers so the government never profits from college student loans.






    - ? down on predatory schools, lenders, and bill collectors.





    -Executive action to offer a three-month moratorium on student loan payments to all federal loan borrowers.

    That will give every borrower a chance to consolidate their loans, sign up for income-based repayment plans, and take advantage of opportunities to reduce their monthly interest payments and fees.

    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smh

    I may vote in the presidential election...and if I do it will be for Hilary....but it's so frustrating

    While Bernie was not perfect, he was the better candidate for Blk ppl ...by leaps and bounds

    Now I'm being forced to support someone I have no faith in...and for good reason

    This the flaw in having a 2 party system, we are constantly having to pick between ? candidates ....but what's a viable alternative

    again .. how he legislated in one of the whitest states of america.. his heart was in the right place but you cant be a maverick/revolutionary in that environment.

    He did legislate in one of the whitest states in America, not sure how that is relevant

    Unless you want to make the argument in terms of name recognition Hilary had a huge advantage

    I will admit he did himself no favors running as a democrat

    Otherwise considering he had few Blk constituents to answer to, makes the fact he publicly spoke out against the crime bill in the 90s after voting for the bill even more meaningful. He had nothing to gain

    Plus the numerous times he spoke out against institutions that perpuate inequality

    He opposed the 1996 welfare-reform law, which has perpetuated extreme poverty

    And he also opposed bank deregulation and the Iraq War, both of which Hillary supported, and both of which have proved disastrous

    Hilary has adopted much of Bernie's agenda and policy...but I just don't trust her to actually push for policy that serve the best interest of the Blk constituents if it's a risk politically
  • Huey_C
    Huey_C Members Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭✭✭
    @Turfaholic has been awfully quiet about his boy donald
  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.

    She has actually taken the feasible parts of Bernie's policies and folded it into the Democratic platform.

    I care less about the candidate, personally; and more about the direction they are moving the country.


    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate use of force by police officers. A clear set of rules has never existed, instead it has always been completely subjective and up to the officer's discretion as to what qualifies as "imminent danger"


    - Acknowledging Implicit Bias and Investing over $1 Billion in state-of-the-art law enforcement training at every level. Addressing issues such as alternatives to incarceration, community policing, use of force, de-escalation, crisis intervention etc.


    - Supporting federal, state and local legislation to combat racial profiling


    - Strengthening the U.S. Department of Justice’s pattern or practice unit—to better identify and investigate civil rights violations.



    - Doubling funding for the U.S. Department of Justice “Collaborative Reform” program. Helping the curation and mobilization of best practices and effective policing strategies.



    - Providing federal matching funds to make body cameras available to every police department in America.



    - Collecting and reporting national data to inform policing strategies and provide greater transparency and accountability when it comes to crime, officer-involved shootings, and deaths in custody.







    COMBAT MASS INCARCERATION


    - Reforming mandatory minimum sentencing. Mitigate the excessively long sentencing of nonviolent drug offenders. Effectively fighting against racial inequality in our criminal justice system.



    - Cutting mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses in half.

    • Allowing current nonviolent prisoners to seek fairer sentences

    Eliminating the sentencing disparity for ? and powder ? so that equal amounts of ? and powder ? carry equal sentences, and applying this change retroactively.

    Reforming the “strike” system, so that nonviolent drug offenses no longer count as a “strike,” reducing the mandatory penalty for second- and third-strike offenses.







    - Focusing federal enforcement resources on violent crime, not simple marijuana possession.




    - Prioritizing treatment and rehabilitation—rather than incarceration—for low-level, nonviolent drug offenders.





    - Dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline.

    Providing $2 billion in support to schools to reform overly punitive disciplinary policies, calling on states to reform school disturbance laws, and encouraging states to use federal education funding to implement social and emotional support interventions.




    - Ending the privatization of prisons. Removing private industry incentives to over-incarceration.




    - Promote successful re-entry by formerly incarcerated individuals

    Removing barriers and creating pathways to employment, housing, health care, education, and civic participation, including:

    •Taking executive action to “ban the box” for federal employers and contractors, so that applicants have an opportunity to demonstrate their qualifications before being asked about their criminal records.

    Investing $5 billion in re-entry job programs for formerly incarcerated individuals so that individuals can have a fair shot at getting back on their feet and becoming productive, contributing members of society.

    •Supporting legislation to restore voting rights to individuals who have served their sentences.






    - Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill






    Education

    - Launch a national campaign to modernize and elevate the profession of teaching.




    - State and Shool District funding to provide every student in America an opportunity to learn computer science.




    - Rebuild America’s schools.

    Double subsidies for efforts to fix and modernize America’s classrooms





    - Affordable College Allowing families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities.

    •All community colleges will offer free tuition.

    A $25 billion fund will support historically black colleges and universities, Hispanic-serving institutions, and other minority-serving institutions in building new ladders of opportunity for students.

    Borrowers will be able to refinance loans at current rates, providing debt relief to an estimated 25 million people. They’ll never have to pay back more than 10 percent of their income, and all remaining college debt will be forgiven after 20 years.

    •Delinquent borrowers and those in default will get help to protect their credit and get back on their feet.

    Significantly cut interest rates to reduce the burden for future borrowers so the government never profits from college student loans.






    - ? down on predatory schools, lenders, and bill collectors.





    -Executive action to offer a three-month moratorium on student loan payments to all federal loan borrowers.

    That will give every borrower a chance to consolidate their loans, sign up for income-based repayment plans, and take advantage of opportunities to reduce their monthly interest payments and fees.

    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    I know her platform, agenda very well

    Most of the policies Bernie has been pushing for for decades

    She'll be a compatent president

    I just don't trust that she will put our best interest before her own, which I believe are not always one and the same

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting

    That said, the choice between Bernie and Hilary for me has always boiled down to...

    Who do you trust more?

    And do you want slow progress or someone who is going to disrupt the status quo

    A Bernie presidency being the later

  • Turfaholic
    Turfaholic Members Posts: 20,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Huey_C wrote: »
    @Turfaholic has been awfully quiet about his boy donald

    Lol that's not my boy. I'd rather see him win than Hilary. But Trump is done. I'm out focused on prop 1 & 2 out here in Nevada. Prop 1 is regarding closing a loophole on gun purchases. I'm voting no on that lol. And prop 2 is the legalization of recreational marijuana in Nevada. Which I'm voting yes on. The presidential ? depressing.
  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Members Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trump is an idiot. The NYPD are corrupt. However, with all of that said, the parents of the accused were the problem with this case. They could have stopped the interviews or asked for attorneys at any given time but they didn't. I was disgusted watching those interviews and seeing the parents go along like they were.
  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.

    She has actually taken the feasible parts of Bernie's policies and folded it into the Democratic platform.

    I care less about the candidate, personally; and more about the direction they are moving the country.


    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate use of force by police officers. A clear set of rules has never existed, instead it has always been completely subjective and up to the officer's discretion as to what qualifies as "imminent danger"


    - Acknowledging Implicit Bias and Investing over $1 Billion in state-of-the-art law enforcement training at every level. Addressing issues such as alternatives to incarceration, community policing, use of force, de-escalation, crisis intervention etc.


    - Supporting federal, state and local legislation to combat racial profiling


    - Strengthening the U.S. Department of Justice’s pattern or practice unit—to better identify and investigate civil rights violations.



    - Doubling funding for the U.S. Department of Justice “Collaborative Reform” program. Helping the curation and mobilization of best practices and effective policing strategies.



    - Providing federal matching funds to make body cameras available to every police department in America.



    - Collecting and reporting national data to inform policing strategies and provide greater transparency and accountability when it comes to crime, officer-involved shootings, and deaths in custody.







    COMBAT MASS INCARCERATION


    - Reforming mandatory minimum sentencing. Mitigate the excessively long sentencing of nonviolent drug offenders. Effectively fighting against racial inequality in our criminal justice system.



    - Cutting mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses in half.

    • Allowing current nonviolent prisoners to seek fairer sentences

    Eliminating the sentencing disparity for ? and powder ? so that equal amounts of ? and powder ? carry equal sentences, and applying this change retroactively.

    Reforming the “strike” system, so that nonviolent drug offenses no longer count as a “strike,” reducing the mandatory penalty for second- and third-strike offenses.







    - Focusing federal enforcement resources on violent crime, not simple marijuana possession.




    - Prioritizing treatment and rehabilitation—rather than incarceration—for low-level, nonviolent drug offenders.





    - Dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline.

    Providing $2 billion in support to schools to reform overly punitive disciplinary policies, calling on states to reform school disturbance laws, and encouraging states to use federal education funding to implement social and emotional support interventions.




    - Ending the privatization of prisons. Removing private industry incentives to over-incarceration.




    - Promote successful re-entry by formerly incarcerated individuals

    Removing barriers and creating pathways to employment, housing, health care, education, and civic participation, including:

    •Taking executive action to “ban the box” for federal employers and contractors, so that applicants have an opportunity to demonstrate their qualifications before being asked about their criminal records.

    Investing $5 billion in re-entry job programs for formerly incarcerated individuals so that individuals can have a fair shot at getting back on their feet and becoming productive, contributing members of society.

    •Supporting legislation to restore voting rights to individuals who have served their sentences.






    - Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill






    Education

    - Launch a national campaign to modernize and elevate the profession of teaching.




    - State and Shool District funding to provide every student in America an opportunity to learn computer science.




    - Rebuild America’s schools.

    Double subsidies for efforts to fix and modernize America’s classrooms





    - Affordable College Allowing families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities.

    •All community colleges will offer free tuition.

    A $25 billion fund will support historically black colleges and universities, Hispanic-serving institutions, and other minority-serving institutions in building new ladders of opportunity for students.

    Borrowers will be able to refinance loans at current rates, providing debt relief to an estimated 25 million people. They’ll never have to pay back more than 10 percent of their income, and all remaining college debt will be forgiven after 20 years.

    •Delinquent borrowers and those in default will get help to protect their credit and get back on their feet.

    Significantly cut interest rates to reduce the burden for future borrowers so the government never profits from college student loans.






    - ? down on predatory schools, lenders, and bill collectors.





    -Executive action to offer a three-month moratorium on student loan payments to all federal loan borrowers.

    That will give every borrower a chance to consolidate their loans, sign up for income-based repayment plans, and take advantage of opportunities to reduce their monthly interest payments and fees.

    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.





    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.
  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.

    She has actually taken the feasible parts of Bernie's policies and folded it into the Democratic platform.

    I care less about the candidate, personally; and more about the direction they are moving the country.


    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate use of force by police officers. A clear set of rules has never existed, instead it has always been completely subjective and up to the officer's discretion as to what qualifies as "imminent danger"


    - Acknowledging Implicit Bias and Investing over $1 Billion in state-of-the-art law enforcement training at every level. Addressing issues such as alternatives to incarceration, community policing, use of force, de-escalation, crisis intervention etc.


    - Supporting federal, state and local legislation to combat racial profiling


    - Strengthening the U.S. Department of Justice’s pattern or practice unit—to better identify and investigate civil rights violations.



    - Doubling funding for the U.S. Department of Justice “Collaborative Reform” program. Helping the curation and mobilization of best practices and effective policing strategies.



    - Providing federal matching funds to make body cameras available to every police department in America.



    - Collecting and reporting national data to inform policing strategies and provide greater transparency and accountability when it comes to crime, officer-involved shootings, and deaths in custody.







    COMBAT MASS INCARCERATION


    - Reforming mandatory minimum sentencing. Mitigate the excessively long sentencing of nonviolent drug offenders. Effectively fighting against racial inequality in our criminal justice system.



    - Cutting mandatory minimum sentences for nonviolent drug offenses in half.

    • Allowing current nonviolent prisoners to seek fairer sentences

    Eliminating the sentencing disparity for ? and powder ? so that equal amounts of ? and powder ? carry equal sentences, and applying this change retroactively.

    Reforming the “strike” system, so that nonviolent drug offenses no longer count as a “strike,” reducing the mandatory penalty for second- and third-strike offenses.







    - Focusing federal enforcement resources on violent crime, not simple marijuana possession.




    - Prioritizing treatment and rehabilitation—rather than incarceration—for low-level, nonviolent drug offenders.





    - Dismantling the school-to-prison pipeline.

    Providing $2 billion in support to schools to reform overly punitive disciplinary policies, calling on states to reform school disturbance laws, and encouraging states to use federal education funding to implement social and emotional support interventions.




    - Ending the privatization of prisons. Removing private industry incentives to over-incarceration.




    - Promote successful re-entry by formerly incarcerated individuals

    Removing barriers and creating pathways to employment, housing, health care, education, and civic participation, including:

    •Taking executive action to “ban the box” for federal employers and contractors, so that applicants have an opportunity to demonstrate their qualifications before being asked about their criminal records.

    Investing $5 billion in re-entry job programs for formerly incarcerated individuals so that individuals can have a fair shot at getting back on their feet and becoming productive, contributing members of society.

    •Supporting legislation to restore voting rights to individuals who have served their sentences.






    - Keep guns out of the hands of domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill






    Education

    - Launch a national campaign to modernize and elevate the profession of teaching.




    - State and Shool District funding to provide every student in America an opportunity to learn computer science.




    - Rebuild America’s schools.

    Double subsidies for efforts to fix and modernize America’s classrooms





    - Affordable College Allowing families with income up to $125,000 will pay no tuition at in-state four-year public colleges and universities.

    •All community colleges will offer free tuition.

    A $25 billion fund will support historically black colleges and universities, Hispanic-serving institutions, and other minority-serving institutions in building new ladders of opportunity for students.

    Borrowers will be able to refinance loans at current rates, providing debt relief to an estimated 25 million people. They’ll never have to pay back more than 10 percent of their income, and all remaining college debt will be forgiven after 20 years.

    •Delinquent borrowers and those in default will get help to protect their credit and get back on their feet.

    Significantly cut interest rates to reduce the burden for future borrowers so the government never profits from college student loans.






    - ? down on predatory schools, lenders, and bill collectors.





    -Executive action to offer a three-month moratorium on student loan payments to all federal loan borrowers.

    That will give every borrower a chance to consolidate their loans, sign up for income-based repayment plans, and take advantage of opportunities to reduce their monthly interest payments and fees.

    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.





    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    Not that I think Bernie is so radical

    But regardless, while we wait for slow measured change ppl are already suffering ...ppl are already dying

    Disporpotionately Blk ppl

    And not just by the hands of police officers

    So when is it going to be a good time to make the Democratic party earn our vote?