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  • Peace_79
    Peace_79 Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »

    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.





    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    So when is it going to be a good time to make the Democratic party earn our vote?


    When the choice is not Trump on the other side of the aisle.

    What kind of conditions do you think he will leave the black community in?

    The country as a whole?

    Our relationship with the rest of the world?



    You said you are familiar with her agenda.

    What more politically feasible polices would you need to see from Hilary's platform (not her person) to "earn your vote"?

    Outside of police reform, affordable education, gun control, women's rights, middle class support, justice reform etc.

    Just curious.

    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.




    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.

    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    Not that I think Bernie is so radical

    I actually think much of what he is proposing is more common sense than radical...

    But there are other people, other beliefs, other values in America besides yours and my own.

    They are part of the political process too.

    To many ... to most ... Bernie's platform IS considered radical. It would never come to fruition in one fowl swoop; regardless of how that makes either of us feel.
  • mrrealone
    mrrealone Members Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Monkeys stiiiiiill runnin' round here talking bout "she finna do dis /she finna do that", "he finna do this/ he finna do that"....


    Mane sit ya'll black behinds down somewhere.....
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Stiff wrote: »
    2rgq52udex9o.jpg

    how many times are ya'll gonna post this fake-ass photo like it proves anything in a world where Republicans believe #BLM is a terrorist group and "The Blacks are the Real Racists™ now"

    ? it i can photoshop some ? too

    he8bo26ka00b.jpg

    The Left wants racial justice, The Right wants slavery and lynching back. All that other ? is irrelevant - you are either on one side or the other. ? a middle ground, ? a "third way".

    America always had 2 parties, its not a parliament system. Federalists vs. Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party, Whigs vs. Democrats, Republicans vs. Democrats.

    This idea that you form some wonderful 3rd party that brings JUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE!!!! is a fantasy, best case scenario all you would ever do is replace the Democrats and inherit their problems anyway, so you might as well ? work with what you got and pressure/pull the Democratic Party as much as you possibly can. I mean, this is still a party Bernie Sanders almost won control of.

    People just say they hate the 2 Party System because they're so frustrated and don't know what else can be done.

    Its a empty solution
  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2016
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »

    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.





    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    So when is it going to be a good time to make the Democratic party earn our vote?


    When the choice is not Trump on the other side of the aisle.

    What kind of conditions do you think he will leave the black community in?

    The country as a whole?

    Our relationship with the rest of the world?



    You said you are familiar with her agenda.

    What more politically feasible polices would you need to see from Hilary's platform (not her person) to "earn your vote"?

    Outside of police reform, affordable education, gun control, women's rights, middle class support, justice reform etc.

    Just curious.

    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.




    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.

    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    Not that I think Bernie is so radical

    I actually think much of what he is proposing is more common sense than radical...

    But there are other people, other beliefs, other values in America besides yours and my own.

    They are part of the political process too.

    To many ... to most ... Bernie's platform IS considered radical. It would never come to fruition in one fowl swoop; regardless of how that makes either of us feel.

    I understand there were ppl who believed Bernie was this crazy radical socialist who hates america

    No thanks to some of the media, GOPers

    However I don't believe they are the reason he lost in the primaries

    I believe Democrats such as yourself subverted his candidancy out of your own misplaced fear that he was unelectable

    These so called radical policies from his platform poll very well amongst all Americans, especially Democrats

    And Bernie polled better with independents than Hillary

    Socialism is not this bad word that it was 20, 30 years ago...the country is moving left...
  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Swiffness! wrote: »
    Stiff wrote: »
    2rgq52udex9o.jpg

    how many times are ya'll gonna post this fake-ass photo like it proves anything in a world where Republicans believe #BLM is a terrorist group and "The Blacks are the Real Racists™ now"

    ? it i can photoshop some ? too

    he8bo26ka00b.jpg

    The Left wants racial justice, The Right wants slavery and lynching back. All that other ? is irrelevant - you are either on one side or the other. ? a middle ground, ? a "third way".

    America always had 2 parties, its not a parliament system. Federalists vs. Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party, Whigs vs. Democrats, Republicans vs. Democrats.

    This idea that you form some wonderful 3rd party that brings JUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE!!!! is a fantasy, best case scenario all you would ever do is replace the Democrats and inherit their problems anyway, so you might as well ? work with what you got and pressure/pull the Democratic Party as much as you possibly can. I mean, this is still a party Bernie Sanders almost won control of.

    People just say they hate the 2 Party System because they're so frustrated and don't know what else can be done.

    Its a empty solution


    I agree to a certain extent

    And I understand the GOP is a ? show

    But continuing to support only one party out of fear of what the other party may do isn't going to produce the results we want

    At least it's not a viable tactic in the long run

    I mean, besides withholding votes, what are some other things we can do to pressure politicans?
  • blackgod813
    blackgod813 Members Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Listen hear...when came for illegal mexicans i saw truth ...but to stop an frisk citizens...naw vote for Hilary
  • desertrain10
    desertrain10 Members Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Peace_79 wrote: »
    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »

    LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM

    - Developing national guidelines outlining the appropriate

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.





    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    So when is it going to be a good time to make the Democratic party earn our vote?


    When the choice is not Trump on the other side of the aisle.

    What kind of conditions do you think he will leave the black community in?

    The country as a whole?

    Our relationship with the rest of the world?



    You said you are familiar with her agenda.

    What more politically feasible polices would you need to see from Hilary's platform (not her person) to "earn your vote"?

    Outside of police reform, affordable education, gun control, women's rights, middle class support, justice reform etc.

    Just curious.

    Peace_79 wrote: »
    @desertrain10

    I definitely respect your position.


    Peace_79 wrote: »
    What's funny is a lot of people have no idea what Hilary is proposing to do.




    That's what makes this decision easier for me than most.

    And nothing Bernie or Hilary proposed is feasible unless they have a majority in Congress... Which is totally dependant on their supporters voting


    The Bolded is one of the top reasons that under no circumstances can we allow a fringe right Republican Adminstration to come to fruition...

    It is why holding your vote or voting third party makes no sense in this election.

    I mostly agree with your assessment of Bernie and Hilary's respective character and trustworthiness.

    However, I also believe that Bernie's views were too extremist; too radical to ever make manifest through the legislative branch.

    When implementing massive change affecting hundreds of millions of people using trillions of federal dollars ...

    Often slow, measured progress is better in the long haul - than rapid, distruptive change.

    Not that I think Bernie is so radical

    I actually think much of what he is proposing is more common sense than radical...

    But there are other people, other beliefs, other values in America besides yours and my own.

    They are part of the political process too.

    To many ... to most ... Bernie's platform IS considered radical. It would never come to fruition in one fowl swoop; regardless of how that makes either of us feel.


    I believe Trumps presidency would be a ? show. Hillary is a far better candidate

    At the same, while Hillary talks a good game...

    And much of Bernie's so called radical platform she has adopted as her own...

    I just don't believe her heart is in it unless it serves her best interest

    That's most politicians, thanks to the money involved

    However I believed/believe Bernie was different...before it was popular, he spoke out issues issues such as campaign finance reform and inequality I'm passionate about

    And i believe a vote for Hillary is a vote for the continuation of Obamas foreign policy agenda...boooooo

    That said, Bernie lost...so guess I'm with her for now, considering the stakes of the election