RA The Rugged Man: LL Cool J is a Better Rapper Than 2Pac
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I can't think of one aspect of rap that LL is better than Pac in. Not flow, content, hits, nothing.
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This man is in 40's, so of course he likes LL better than PAC. He grew up on LL and he's from NY.
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1st of all Kobe was not, is not and never will be a better "technical" player than LeBron
2nd of all lebron took Eric snow, Larry Hughes, drew Gooden and the cast of the Cosby show to the finals
Kobe had what 19 triple doubles in 20 seasons
LeBron got 45
Kobe got the record for most missed shots in the history of the league
And let's not even act like he didn't play with the most dominant center in like forever when he won his 1st 3
Kobe is Carmelo with better teammates and a ? attitude
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Also when and if lebron falls off he'll still be a contributor because he does more than score
Soon as Kobe started breaking down it was a wrap for the Lakers
? said it ain't close
No, it's not, cuz lebron taking that ? by miles
Kobe was a Westbrook type ? whereas he might go 9 for 41 but if he hit the game winning shot it's mamba mentality
Like ? u the reason we needed a game winning shot
If yo uglass wasn't out here tryna score on 4 ? at once and made the correct pass we might be up by 25
Kobe is a relic
A thing of the past
Efficiency and high basketball iq is what's poppin
Not volume scoring iso ?
Same reason why Westbrook might avg a triple double this year and not make the playoffs -
Can we stop talking about Kobe though. He's one of the best and so is Lebron. LET IT GO.
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LL is in his own lane...He's a legend in his own right as far as skills and catalog goes..Alot of LL's songs have aged gracefully on some nat king Cole ? .."Doin it wild" and "boomin system" still sound fresh to this day
From a technical aspect ,'LL is definitely a better rapper than Pac..Pacs delivery,while passionate and fiery, was basic...
However,it was the way that basic passionate flow connected with people's emotions shows you that Pac is superior artist overall..Sometimes substance trumps style
Now from a die-hard hip hop head's perspective Pac couldn't hang in a rappity rap lyricist type arena..He would get washed..? ,kurupt and Redman washed Pac bar for bar on "got my mind made up"...Even tho to his credit,Pac was able to maintain his respect as emcee by rapping with aggression
Biggie also washed him on the collabs they did together (runnin,house of pain) -
BackInWhite wrote: »1st of all Kobe was not, is not and never will be a better "technical" player than Lebron
Footwork wise, defensively one of one, scoring from a variety of angles, in a variety of ways. Kobe was tough.
Lebron literlly has 2 moves, shoot a 3 or wave a pick away back out to half court then do the exact same ? move he would have done if the pick was there, bull to the basket and get a layup. Kobe had jabs, pullups, floaters, fadeaways, post ups, deep 3s, all kinds of ? .
He was a better "Player" from a scoring standpoint, and technically, but lebron does everything, some of it sloppily, and still gets it done. I still think lebron has potential, lots of it left in the post, and a more well rounded offensive game. I would start my franchise with lebron before anyone in history not named Lew Alcindor. Jordan included.
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EyeofAsaru wrote: »LL is in his own lane...He's a legend in his own right as far as skills and catalog goes..
From a technical aspect ,'LL is definitely a better rapper than Pac..Pacs delivery,while passionate and fiery, was basic...
However,it was the way that basic passionate flow connected with people's emotions shows you that Pac is superior artist overall..
Now from a die-hard hip hop head's perspective Pac couldn't hang in a rappity rap lyricist type arena..He would get washed..? ,kurupt and Redman washed Pac bar for bar on "got my mind made up"...Even tho to his credit,Pac was able to maintain his respect as emcee by rapping with aggression
Biggie also washed him on the collabs they did together (runnin,house of pain)
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BackInWhite wrote: »Also when and if lebron falls off he'll still be a contributor because he does more than score
Soon as Kobe started breaking down it was a wrap for the Lakers
? said it ain't close
No, it's not, cuz lebron taking that ? by miles
Kobe was a Westbrook type ? whereas he might go 9 for 41 but if he hit the game winning shot it's mamba mentality
Like ? u the reason we needed a game winning shot
If yo uglass wasn't out here tryna score on 4 ? at once and made the correct pass we might be up by 25
Kobe is a relic
A thing of the past
Efficiency and high basketball iq is what's poppin
Not volume scoring iso ?
Same reason why Westbrook might avg a triple double this year and not make the playoffs
Don't hurt these ? feelings like that -
Lots of ? can do LL. Nobody before, or since can do what Pac could do. For instance..... How many of these do LL got?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUs0KtB-I -
LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest -
CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest
Lol. You're one of a few.
That "I don't get the hype", could be said about a lot of things and people, so it's understandable. -
Lots of ? can do LL. Nobody before, or since can do what Pac could do. For instance..... How many of these do LL got?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUs0KtB-I
It's not physically impossible to do what Pac did
? like you just won't let or accept another ? doing it
Like you doing right now
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northside7 wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest
Lol. You're one of a few.
That "I don't get the hype", could be said about a lot of things and people, so it's understandable.
Yeah but when ? talk Pac they talk legacy. Use words like 'passion' and 'emotion'. I've tried to get into his music so many times. Bar a couple songs, his first two albums are barely listenable. Lyrically he's good and technically he's average at best.
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »northside7 wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest
Lol. You're one of a few.
That "I don't get the hype", could be said about a lot of things and people, so it's understandable.
Yeah but when ? talk Pac they talk legacy. Use words like 'passion' and 'emotion'. I've tried to get into his music so many times. Bar a couple songs, his first two albums are barely listenable. Lyrically he's good and technically he's average at best.
Remember, it's all opinions. That's your opinion.
If you can't get the passion, emotion and energy in his music, that's on you. -
Go tell this to Jay or Nas in their face
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northside7 wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »northside7 wrote: »CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest
Lol. You're one of a few.
That "I don't get the hype", could be said about a lot of things and people, so it's understandable.
Yeah but when ? talk Pac they talk legacy. Use words like 'passion' and 'emotion'. I've tried to get into his music so many times. Bar a couple songs, his first two albums are barely listenable. Lyrically he's good and technically he's average at best.
Remember, it's all opinions. That's your opinion.
If you can't get the passion, emotion and energy in his music, that's on you.
So we're agreed that he's good lyrically and technically average at best?
Coz LL is dope on both fronts -
This ? talkin about triple doubles :joy: who gives af lmaooo But but but steve nash has 2 mvps ass ?
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......? Steve Nash
We talkin bout volume scoring, when my shot not going in I'm useless ass Kobe
Ain't nobody said ? about Steve Nash or 2 mvps
But if we counting lebron got 4 and 3 finals mvps
Ol I had a poster of him in my room so logic don't scare me ass ?
Ol I'm gon lmao and use laughing emojis to hide the fact that my favorite player ain't better than LeBron
But but but he got 5 rings ass ? lmaooooooo -
BackInWhite wrote: »......? Steve Nash
We talkin bout volume scoring, when my shot not going in I'm useless ass Kobe
Ain't nobody said ? about Steve Nash or 2 mvps
But if we counting lebron got 4 and 3 finals mvps
Ol I had a poster of him in my room so logic don't scare me ass ?
Ol I'm gon lmao and use laughing emojis to hide the fact that my favorite player ain't better than LeBron
But but but he got 5 rings ass ? lmaoooooooBackInWhite wrote: »......? Steve Nash
We talkin bout volume scoring, when my shot not going in I'm useless ass Kobe
Ain't nobody said ? about Steve Nash or 2 mvps
But if we counting lebron got 4 and 3 finals mvps
Ol I had a poster of him in my room so logic don't scare me ass ?
Ol I'm gon lmao and use laughing emojis to hide the fact that my favorite player ain't better than LeBron
But but but he got 5 rings ass ? lmaooooooo
I'm proving how meaningless that ? you're talking about is, who gives af about a triple double?
Who won more? Until Lebron gets to 5 rings ? n kys -
Robert Horry got what, 7?
Oh ok, rings make you the better player
Tell cp3 he'll never be Adam Morrison
? outta here, lady
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CeLLaR-DooR wrote: »LL on 4,3,2,1 with ? , Red, DMX and Canibus. Some of the hottest ? out at the time and arguably came out on top. Beefed with some of the hottest ? and came out on top each time.
I've never really got the Pac hype if I'm honest
what ??
LL was average as hell on that he had passion and rapped like a OG but lyrical skills were basic as hell DMX got that easily -
NothingButTheTruth wrote: »I can't think of one aspect of rap that LL is better than Pac in. Not flow, content, hits, nothing.
Stop. LL in his prime flowed much better than Pac, had better wordplay, vocab, delivery, punches etc. LL was also more versatile, he could cover more range. He'd hit the world with the "I Need Love" ? and then you'd hear him ripping Canibus and whoever else apart on a diss track.
No disrespect but what you smoking ? ?
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BackInWhite wrote: »Kobe was a Westbrook type ? whereas he might go 9 for 41 but if he hit the game winning shot it's mamba mentality
Like ? u the reason we needed a game winning shot
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BackInWhite wrote: »Also when and if lebron falls off he'll still be a contributor because he does more than score
Soon as Kobe started breaking down it was a wrap for the Lakers
? said it ain't close
No, it's not, cuz lebron taking that ? by miles
Kobe was a Westbrook type ? whereas he might go 9 for 41 but if he hit the game winning shot it's mamba mentality
Like ? u the reason we needed a game winning shot
If yo uglass wasn't out here tryna score on 4 ? at once and made the correct pass we might be up by 25
Kobe is a relic
A thing of the past
Efficiency and high basketball iq is what's poppin
Not volume scoring iso ?
Same reason why Westbrook might avg a triple double this year and not make the playoffs
Man I feel the same way about A.I.
