Tariq Nasheed is Going to Be on Fox News At 7:00 Today (11/29/16)

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  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kzzl wrote: »
    I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.

    CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?

    Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.

    this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.

    ? ? ass.

    The bolded. How is doing the job that you're sworn to do in anyway remotely heroic? I need somebody to explain to me where is the heroism in subduing a knife wielding suspect by shooting him when you have on a vest. Hell I would daresay the act is not even courageous. Here's an act of heroism on the part of law enforcement and you can plainly see the difference.

    Intervening After Robbery, an Off-Duty A.T.F. Agent Is Killed

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/nyregion/off-duty-atf-officer-is-killed-intervening-after-robbery.html

    By AL BAKER and TIM STELLOHDEC. 31, 2011

    An off-duty special agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was fatally shot on Saturday afternoon when he, along with at least one other law enforcement officer and a retired officer, tried to stop a robber who had just held up a pharmacy on Long Island, the authorities said.

    The apparent robber was also killed.

    Details of the shooting, which occurred outside Charlie’s Family Pharmacy on Merrick Road in Seaford, remained murky on Saturday night as the authorities seemed unsure how it unfolded and who fired the fatal shots.

    Senior Special Agent John Capano, an explosives specialist who was in his 40s, had been a special agent for 23 years, said Joe Anarumo, a special agent with the bureau.

    “Today, doing his job in an off-duty capacity, he intervened in an armed robbery and subsequently was shot,” Special Agent Anarumo said, adding, “He is a hero.”

    Joseph G. Green, a spokesman for the New York office of the bureau, said he had worked closely with Special Agent Capano in the early 1990s when they were assigned to a joint firearms task force with the New York Police Department.

    “It is a sad and tragic way to end the year,” Mr. Green said. “Over time, he became a certified explosives expert for A.T.F. who oversaw and assisted in conducting explosives training for law enforcement here in the United States, but also volunteered to travel overseas to Afghanistan and Iraq as part of A.T.F.’s explosives training for our troops in the military and police in those countries.”

    Special Agent Capano was married, lived on Long Island and had two children, a daughter who is in high school and a son who is in college. His father is a retired law enforcement officer, Mr. Green added.

    It was just before 2 p.m. on Saturday when a man walked into the drugstore, said Officer Maureen Roach, a Nassau County police spokeswoman. She did not say if the man was armed.

    “He was demanding OxyContin and cash,” said Lt. Kevin Smith of the Nassau County police, adding that he did not know how much was stolen.

    There were customers in the store at the time of the robbery, Lieutenant Smith said, though he said he did not know how many.

    A law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case was unresolved, said the preliminary accounts indicated that after the man left the pharmacy, he went to a parking lot, and people pointed him out as the possible robber. Special Agent Capano then confronted the man.

    Somehow in the struggle between Special Agent Capano and the robbery suspect shots were fired, “and that is when the agent is shot,” the official said.

    Next door to the pharmacy is a deli that, according to the official, was believed to be owned by a retired Nassau County police officer or detective. Some people from the pharmacy ran into the deli and told the people there what had happened. Also in the deli was an off-duty member of the New York Police Department, the official said.

    “They come out and see these guys struggling,” the official said.

    The official said it was believed that either the retired Nassau officer or the off-duty New York officer shot at the struggling men. The suspect was hit by gunshots and was fatally wounded.

    It is not clear if Special Agent Capano was shot then or if he had been wounded in the struggle with the suspect. He was taken to Nassau University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.

    Ryan Lecertosa, 24, was on his way home when he drove past the pharmacy Saturday afternoon and heard several gunshots. He said he saw a large man in front of the shop with a blood-soaked shirt.

    “He was holding his chest, and then he collapsed,” Mr. Lecertosa said, adding that the man was instantly surrounded by about six people.

    As the authorities try to establish just what happened, they will have to collect whatever guns were present, and try to figure out who fired, and how many shots. They will check the ballistics. Autopsies will be performed. Among the questions will be what bullets caused what wounds. Eyewitness accounts will be gathered, as well as any admissions made spontaneously, if they were.

    Asked for details about the shooting and whether New York police officers were somehow involved, Detective Brian Sessa, a New York Police Department spokesman, said: “We are looking into it. It is not our investigation; it is Nassau County’s investigation. We’re looking into it.”

    The episode aroused memories of the shooting deaths last June of four people inside a pharmacy in Medford, N.Y., several miles east of Seaford, in Suffolk County. The killer, David S. Laffer, 33, pleaded guilty in September to first-degree murder. After killing the four — a pharmacist, a clerk who was still in high school and two customers — he fled the store with thousands of pain pills.

    That crime, described by prosecutors as one of the most horrific in the history of Suffolk County, appeared to have been a severe example of a national epidemic involving drugstore robberies by prescription drug addicts.


    These officers went into a dangerous situation, (with no vests,) no backup when he was off duty. The muthafucka didn't have to do that ? , but he did, with a disregard to personal safety and out of obligation to fulfill his duty. That's heroism.


    All racial ? aside, it being the cops job doesn't take away from their justified acts being heroic. Regardless of who is better equipped, if they were able to save lives, then the title of hero is warranted.

    A vocation in of itself doesn't make one heroic.

    I'm not saying it does. Not every cop, soldier, bodyguard, and the like is Mike Lorry, we know that. I'm saying it being the job doesn't take away from the action being heroic.

    Saying that it does take away from the act sounds like more of that "they're getting paid talk", to be honest.
  • a.mann
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    lmao, next time I see a thread about a black pastor, Imma bring this thread up since hustling the race is cool with you ? now

    "he getting money tho"

    FOH

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  • Maximus Rex
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=EVmdO_dLFqY
    Tariq Nasheed vs Race Soldier Supporter Mike Gallagher
  • DR. JEK
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    edited December 2016
    DR. JEK wrote: »
    rapmusic wrote: »
    Damn Tariq... You went on tv and dropped the ball smmfh! ? on there so focused on trying to make Tucker look stupid but he came off looking pretty bad here. Maybe Tariq would've won if this was a twitter battle.

    Tariq don't feel like he lost. If you play his show from 29th minute to the 39th he break down why Tucker lost
    http://www.tariqradio.com/uploads/2/4/4/7/24470289/tariqradio159.mp3

    Idk. I took the content of Tariq's show as retrospective damage control.

    This wasn't Tariq's best debate/interview performance. But you're bound to not be at your best eventually.

    To me.....Tariq is pretty nimble when it comes to verbal sparring but this time he was too anxious to respond and it came off as being flustered and agitated. However I know that time (and time to make your point ) is limited during those segments. Should have taken more deep breaths and approached a little more calculated.

    It's hard to win those away games on Fox because they IMMEDIATELY literally frame you visually (with the banners of their pre-judice) and verbally with the opening statement so the guest starts on the defense out the gate. But it's all done to pander to what their core (racist) audience already believes.

    He did level them with the race casino line tho.


    I initially thought it was damage control too but the more I listen to his interview with Tucker I see the talking points Tariq said on his live stream taking affect on Tucker and Tucker the one actually looked flustered. Specifically when Tariq said that part about him tryna bait him into the slavery debate and he didn't fall for it and Tucker did the gasp sound effect.
  • DR. JEK
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    Like Batman vs Superman this interview went completely over dudes heads. It was a ? satire. Flex used the same exact talking points that CACs and the Neo Gestopo use when they murder innocent black citizens. That should have been clearly evident when he said, "Let's not rush to judgment and wait for all of the facts to be in."

    I thought that part was Goat.
  • rapmusic
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    I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.

    CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?

    Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.

    this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.

    ? ? ass.
    Yep and he had time right there to really go in but he didn't. Like I said Tariq was more concerned with trying to call them out on their racism than actually saying some ? that would register. He really think that saying they're a racist casino really hurt that station. ? Fox News be getting cussed the ? out in these streets, calling them a racist casino ain't ? . I've seen ? get in some Fox News anchors face and say way worse than that. Tariq should've done better imo.
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    rapmusic wrote: »
    I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.

    CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?

    Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.

    this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.

    ? ? ass.
    Yep and he had time right there to really go in but he didn't. Like I said Tariq was more concerned with trying to call them out on their racism than actually saying some ? that would register. He really think that saying they're a racist casino really hurt that station. ? Fox News be getting cussed the ? out in these streets, calling them a racist casino ain't ? . I've seen ? get in some Fox News anchors face and say way worse than that. Tariq should've done better imo.

    @rapmusic what could've he have done better in your opinion?
  • rapmusic
    rapmusic Members Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5th Letter wrote: »
    rapmusic wrote: »
    I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.

    CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?

    Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.

    this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.

    ? ? ass.
    Yep and he had time right there to really go in but he didn't. Like I said Tariq was more concerned with trying to call them out on their racism than actually saying some ? that would register. He really think that saying they're a racist casino really hurt that station. ? Fox News be getting cussed the ? out in these streets, calling them a racist casino ain't ? . I've seen ? get in some Fox News anchors face and say way worse than that. Tariq should've done better imo.

    @rapmusic what could've he have done better in your opinion?

    Could've done a better job explaining what that tweet meant. Everybody knows what he meant by it and he could've explained it better. Should've used his time more wisely instead of resorting to insults in the end. Can you honestly say that people who didn't know Tariq Nasheed before that interview learned anything from him?
  • D. Morgan
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    I want to hear this interview but I dislike vlad so much that I won't press play to give his sucka ass anymore views or shine.

    Cliffnotes please?!
  • stringer bell
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    D. Morgan wrote: »

    I want to hear this interview but I dislike vlad so much that I won't press play to give his sucka ass anymore views or shine.

    Cliffnotes please?!

    He talked how white supremacist have infiltrated the pig forces across the nation and also other white supremacists movement in this country...
  • D. Morgan
    D. Morgan Members Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D. Morgan wrote: »

    I want to hear this interview but I dislike vlad so much that I won't press play to give his sucka ass anymore views or shine.

    Cliffnotes please?!

    He talked how white supremacist have infiltrated the pig forces across the nation and also other white supremacists movement in this country...

    Appreciate that.

    White supremacist have always been in law enforcement from the very beginning. Hell the police force was started off of racism. So that ain't nothing new.

    I know he only answering questions so oh well.

  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    rapmusic wrote: »
    5th Letter wrote: »
    rapmusic wrote: »
    I cant speak for the dudes picking a winner or a loser in this interview. there are some like me who don't see it as winning or losing but instead feel Tariq ? up when that camera started rolling. That ? said the tweet wasn't how he was feeling. that ? called the cop a hero. that ? refused to explain what that tweet meant.

    CARLSON: I’m asking you what did you mean but that. Is the guy, the police officer who shot this guy, a hero or isn't he?

    Tariq: No, I didn't think the guy was wrong for what he did. The guy was a hero. The comment wasn't meant to racialize the actual shooting and the event itself. When that happened, there were a lot of people online who played the race card. And the minute they found out who the suspect was, they kep taling about Black Somalian, Black Somalian. Then they started talking about Black Lives Matter and Obama and then they racialized it.

    this ? said nothing about how black folks always get killed and white folks always get arrested. that ? is a ? for real. don't go on twitter talking all that ? ? and then go on Fox talking about yessir ? u is right that cop there is a hero boss.

    ? ? ass.
    Yep and he had time right there to really go in but he didn't. Like I said Tariq was more concerned with trying to call them out on their racism than actually saying some ? that would register. He really think that saying they're a racist casino really hurt that station. ? Fox News be getting cussed the ? out in these streets, calling them a racist casino ain't ? . I've seen ? get in some Fox News anchors face and say way worse than that. Tariq should've done better imo.

    @rapmusic what could've he have done better in your opinion?

    Could've done a better job explaining what that tweet meant. Everybody knows what he meant by it and he could've explained it better. Should've used his time more wisely instead of resorting to insults in the end. Can you honestly say that people who didn't know Tariq Nasheed before that interview learned anything from him?

    He did explain what the tweet meant though. How can he explain himself when they keep talking over him and cutting him off? Besides that the host started the name calling first right off the bat.
  • MazterChef
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    Tariq is not smart unfortunately
  • Maximus Rex
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    MazterChef wrote: »
    Tariq is not smart unfortunately

    Elaborate.