John Kerry Defends 2-State Solution as 'Only' Path to Peace for Israelis and Palestinians!
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Palestinians want to control the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem, which is where the Judie-Christian holy sites are.
If the Palestinians were legit wanting to "share" Jerusalem, they'd be doing that already peacefully. But they are Muslim, and what the muslims want is to control Jerusalem.
They already have Mecca and Medina in SA to themselves. Their goal is complete ? . If they controlled Jerusalem Christians and Jews would be getting the boot. Bet that. -
One state solution, one person one vote
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Inglewood_B wrote: »Palestinians want to control the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem, which is where the Judie-Christian holy sites are.
If the Palestinians were legit wanting to "share" Jerusalem, they'd be doing that already peacefully. But they are Muslim, and what the muslims want is to control Jerusalem.
They already have Mecca and Medina in SA to themselves. Their goal is complete ? . If they controlled Jerusalem Christians and Jews would be getting the boot. Bet that.
In that sense Jews are the same. They dont want to share Jerusalem either.
And again, you are talking religious lands. And thats cool and all, its definetly an issue, but the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not happening because of Jerusalem.
The issue is, after WW2, Europe and America took Palestinian land and gave it to Israel. Palestinians have been fighting for their land ever since. The Arab countries support their Arab brothers BUT, end of the day, they are different countries. Why would Saudia Arabia take in Millions of people from another country?
? makes 0 sense.
And again, we agree that Islam is ? .
And Jews been trying to give Muslims the boot in the area ever since they took control, so what are we really saying?
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Another never ending thread...
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If Israel really wanted to give them the boot, they would have. They have the backing of the US and their own nuclear arsenal, that's the only reason the Arab/Muslim countries in that region hasn't wiped them off the map already. They allow some 2 million arab Palestinians to stay there anyway, despite that.
And why wouldn't Saudi Arabia let them in? Tens of millions of muslims come into that country every year for the hajj.
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"DNA voice" man get them all the ? outta here. Bomb all that ? start over.
But for real though. The 2 state solution is the only real solution. But there is no way you can rationalize with people that make religion such a big part of their lives. ? look at DuYou no matter how much we ask him to take us out of the group notifications that muthafucka (respectfully) doesn't. No my G I don't know Jesus not even a person named Jesus and Im Latino. -
Inglewood_B wrote: »If Israel really wanted to give them the boot, they would have. They have the backing of the US and their own nuclear arsenal, that's the only reason the Arab/Muslim countries in that region hasn't wiped them off the map already. They allow some 2 million arab Palestinians to stay there anyway, despite that.
And why wouldn't Saudi Arabia let them in? Tens of millions of muslims come into that country every year for the hajj.
the ? that come in for hajj leave though. kinda like you go to Toronto on vacation for a weekend but just cant decide to stay. this shouldnt be this hard to understand bruh -
Hmm what does duteronomy say about Isreal feel itself. Arent there warning for Isreal. Says something about that land being taken away if Isreal ain't living right ? Correct?
Is Isreal living to ? 's law? The destruction of Isreal/world is not about America but Isreal u warning the wrong people bro -
Ajackson17 wrote: »imgoingtoheavenru? wrote: »Ajackson17 wrote: »Good I agree with that decision. The greedy Israelis need to quit being thugs and conquerors
How? What have they conquered? They've actually given land that belongs to them.
How does land belong to you if you weren't there first? No Bible this and that just be real. It's like British and Dutch saying South Africa is our land and yet they have no recent ancestry there for tens of thousands of years but these people been there tens of thousands of years. It makes no sense to just uproot people who have a chronological and documented history there for thousands of years. That's what I mean
Actually the original inhabitants of the land were the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. When was the last time you seen an:
Amorite?
or
Canaanite?
or
Perizzite?
or
Hivite?
or
Jebustie?
That's right, you can't find them because they don't exist as a people group anymore. Why? Because King Jesus judged them! He told the Israelites to disposes the canaanites of the land because of their wicked abominations! He said that the land was defiled because of them! Therefore King Jesus did visit the iniquity that was upon it, and the land itself vomited out her inhabitants!
That is why you don't see a canaanite anymore! Amen. -
It really is the only option. I mean, neither side is ever gonna be ok living under the other. Never gonna be a stable part of the world until a true two state solution is put into place.
But, the reason why this is a bigger deal with every passing year is that, this was never a secutiry issue for the US. Israels treatment of Palestinians were and is the number one cause of any radicilization used by Islamist to radicalize the youth.
Before Al Qaeda and 9-11, this was an issue but never a threat to the homeland or Europe. After 9-11, and increasingly so, these radical islamists are becoming a bigger and bigger threat to the US and Europe.
Also, the economic theory in the world has been shifting with globilization. Before, an unstable region of the world would economically ? that region. Now, the instability of a place like Iraq, Syria, or Israel/Palestian affects the world, icluding the US. Economic theory of 50 years ago for example was he who controls the resources has the power. With that in mind, the US would support brutal regimes in the mid-east, latin america, and africa because they would mean they would control the resources, chose how its exported and who its exported too.
Now though, its much easier to trade between countries. Any country could essentially trade with the other. So, today economic theory is shifting to the idea if a place is stable, they can produce more resources amd maxamize output which will benefit all.
With that idea in mind, the first real step to stabilizing the middle east is to fix the Israeli-Palestinian issue.
Ofcourse, as with any revolution in thought, there will be groups who are against the change and try to hold onto outdated principles. The Trump administation is going to be that.
1. Islam was radicalized from it's inception though. Have you read what Muhammad did in order bring submission to all the different tribes in Arabia?
2. And I think your missing the whole point of what Islam teaches. True muslims have one goal in mind and that is to bring the whole world under submission to allah. There is no other option in their doctrine.
3. This will only be accomplished by war! Have you read their eschatology?
There is a reason why ISIS uses the black flag.
There is a reason why Iran has a black flag.
Are you familiar at all with any of this?
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not_osirus_jenkins wrote: »imgoingtoheavenru? wrote: »not_osirus_jenkins wrote: »Gods gonna come back cuz some land disputes. Crazy how he didn't come back when africa was being ? of its people and resources a few hundred yrs. Selective ass ? .
It wasn't the appointed time my friend. But now is the season. For we are not to be ignorant of the times and season of His return if you are a child of light. Hope you wake up before it's too late! For King Jesus is coming and BOY is He angry!
Amen!
That sucks, that millions died and it still wasn't the time. Kinda hard to have faith in something like that.
1. ? works according to His timetable though, not yours.
2. And man dies because we are sinners. The baby who is miscarried, the stillborn who never got to see the sun, the infant, the child, the young, the middle aged, the 60 year old, and the elderly. It doesn't matter what the age is! Everybody dies because we are sinners. Yes, for it is appointed unto man once to die, and then the judgment!
3. But in Christ shall all be made alive! Hallelujah! -
northside7 wrote: »I've never understood and probably never will understand how my brown skin people hail these European imposters as ? 's chosen people. No logical sense to it at all.
I just pray to ? that I'm alive to see that evil country burn to the ground.
The nations will try, but will be utterly rebuked by ? . Both in the Gog and Magog war. And in the battle of Armageddon. Amen. -
Inglewood_B wrote: »All religious ramifications aside... They should've done this decades ago. It's too late for "peace".
? Israel look like recognizing them as a state when Palestinians don't even recognize Israel right now.
what I don't get is why the Palestinians just don't go to Saudi Arabia where all their Holy sites are.
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not_osirus_jenkins wrote: »Gods gonna come back cuz some land disputes. Crazy how he didn't come back when africa was being ? of its people and resources a few hundred yrs. Selective ass ? .
Only the chosen peoples matter bruh.
We (Black people) are the chosen people..
No. If you are in Christ you are the chosen people. Outside of Christ you are a dead dog and good for nothing but to be utterly burned forever and ever. Amen. -
HundredEyes wrote: »Inglewood_B wrote: »All religious ramifications aside... They should've done this decades ago. It's too late for "peace".
? Israel look like recognizing them as a state when Palestinians don't even recognize Israel right now.
what I don't get is why the Palestinians just don't go to Saudi Arabia where all their Holy sites are.
Cause your assumption is loaded with ignorance fam, not only are most christians running the old churches there palestinian, there are several islamic holy sites over there, the most important one in Jerusalem...
Have you read the KORAN? Jerusalem isn't even mentioned by name ONCE in the whole of that book!
Look it up! This is simple knowledge!
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HundredEyes wrote: »And wtf should they leave their own land anyway?
You need to read what Mark Twain said in 1867 when he went to Israel. Amen. -
HundredEyes wrote: »And the settlement issue is not all its going to take to fix the issue.
And a post here will never be enough to talk about different sides of the israeli-palestinian issues, but, Palestianian leaderships is just as much to blame as the Israeli leadership.
Lets not romanticize the issue and make it sound like Palestine is just an innocent victim and big bad Israel is just killing them.
They are/were innocent victims though, there was nothing honest or cool with the UN giving/taking the land back in 48...that was an act of war by itself...David Ben Gurion said it out loud back then, repeated it in his memoirs...hamas was born in a refugee camp...all extremes are present during war and they have been conditioned since before all of us were born sans @Cain
Israel defeated her enemies in war. And in turn they gave the nations they defeated land! -
"DNA voice" man get them all the ? outta here. Bomb all that ? start over.
But for real though. The 2 state solution is the only real solution. But there is no way you can rationalize with people that make religion such a big part of their lives. ? look at DuYou no matter how much we ask him to take us out of the group notifications that muthafucka (respectfully) doesn't. No my G I don't know Jesus not even a person named Jesus and Im Latino.
He knows you though. For you are fearfully and wonderfully made! Hallelujah! -
lordhonka2 wrote: »Hmm what does duteronomy say about Isreal feel itself. Arent there warning for Isreal. Says something about that land being taken away if Isreal ain't living right ? Correct?
Is Isreal living to ? 's law? The destruction of Isreal/world is not about America but Isreal u warning the wrong people bro
Read Joel 3:1-2 and then let's discuss. -
DoUwant2go2Heaven wrote: »Ajackson17 wrote: »imgoingtoheavenru? wrote: »Ajackson17 wrote: »Good I agree with that decision. The greedy Israelis need to quit being thugs and conquerors
How? What have they conquered? They've actually given land that belongs to them.
How does land belong to you if you weren't there first? No Bible this and that just be real. It's like British and Dutch saying South Africa is our land and yet they have no recent ancestry there for tens of thousands of years but these people been there tens of thousands of years. It makes no sense to just uproot people who have a chronological and documented history there for thousands of years. That's what I mean
Actually the original inhabitants of the land were the Hittites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. When was the last time you seen an:
Amorite?
or
Canaanite?
or
Perizzite?
or
Hivite?
or
Jebustie?
That's right, you can't find them because they don't exist as a people group anymore. Why? Because King Jesus judged them! He told the Israelites to disposes the canaanites of the land because of their wicked abominations! He said that the land was defiled because of them! Therefore King Jesus did visit the iniquity that was upon it, and the land itself vomited out her inhabitants!
That is why you don't see a canaanite anymore! Amen.
No it was Canaanites they exist as the Palestinians today. So they been there for thousands of years of we look in the Egyptian writings. Even 3rd millennia they are there from records. So again they been there at least over 4500 years. Again population shifts do happen but it's their ancestral land and even autosomally they are the same people.
It's propaganda just ancient propaganda, at one time black Americans ancestors called different names nations but our ancestry is related to those who came to west Africa first. So it doesn't make sense that they don't belong there. If we go by the text of the Bible they came as invaders and use Yahweh as an excuse to conquer the land. Like any invading force does. They say their deity gave them the land and it's theirs to conquer. -
Find it funny how people are advocating for the Palestinians to just move to Saudi Arabia or just go along with a 2 state solution.
So would yall just move or go with a 2 state solution with no problems if the UN moved someone into your house and on top of that they started taking over even more of YOUR house than they were given?
It was wrong for the UN to take that land in the first ? place. After the war those people should've went back to where the ? they came from. If they didn't want to do that them figure some other ? out. But that land should've never been taken just cause it could be done and given to someone else and not expect conflict to happen and for the those people already there to just accept it and get over it. -
That doesn't take away the warning Moses gave the land can still be taken by ? if they don't do right.DoUwant2go2Heaven wrote: »lordhonka2 wrote: »Hmm what does duteronomy say about Isreal feel itself. Arent there warning for Isreal. Says something about that land being taken away if Isreal ain't living right ? Correct?
Is Isreal living to ? 's law? The destruction of Isreal/world is not about America but Isreal u warning the wrong people bro
Read Joel 3:1-2 and then let's discuss.
Why do u assume that's happening now (referencing joel)
the land has been in two, really three parts since the 40s that wasn't by the doing of the Palestinians.
The true issue is what role does Isreal have in peace and that the pm of Isreal doesn't want that to happen.
Moses warned them not to feel so untouchable correc?.
Basically all kerry said to Isreal is if u really want peace stop poking the Palestinians(settlements)then crying when they send them rockets over.
Is Isreal infallable to u?
