HipHopDX Breakdown - Andre 3000: The Greatest Rapper Of All Time

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  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    The Recipe wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    The Recipe wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    The Recipe wrote: »
    He aint doing all the work himself as these ? is breaking it down for yall, if a ? has a ghost writer and aint doing all the work he lose all his points like Dre, Diddy, Ye and Drake right? So how do you get all your points when your in a duo doing half the work or getting help? Should he get half the points?

    Yo bruh, you're in every single 3000 thread hating on that ? (i can prove it if u don't believe me) and u just compared him to Dre, Diddy and Ye, you should probably call yourself an Andre 3000 hater and be done with it.

    You in every 3K thread D riding (I can prove it if you dont believe me) you should probably call yourself a stan.

    Prove it. As a matter of fact, find a post where I called him the GOAT and I'll give u my mod spot :joy:

    I dont give no ? about a mod spot bruh. Im a mod in real life.

    Waiting on you to prove it.....
  • MrCrookedLetter
    MrCrookedLetter Members Posts: 22,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Black Thought is highly underrated...

    Big Boi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biggie
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Black Thought doesn't have any solo albums, but I'd consider him better than Andre 3000.

    Then again, I prefer The Roots to Outkast.

    So my point is Andre 3K isn't The Goat because Black Thought is better imo.

    Thats just my opinion.

    Name Black Thoughts top 5 verses. I'll challenge u

    1. last verse on Universe @ War
    2. Web
    3. 75 Bars
    4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)


    And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;

    Harvard Freestyle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA

    That ? took u a min huh? Lol

    Word. Now listen to these

    Any verse on Southernplayalistic
    Any verse on ATLiens
    Any verse on Aquemini
    Any verse on Stankonia
    Any random verse on somebody else's project

    Nobody ever remembers Black Thoughts rhymes....fact. That's no disrespect to Black Thought, homie is a GREAT top 20 rapper so don't get it twisted.

    I could have done the same thing and said, "any verse on Illadelph Halflife"

    Find me a Black Thought verse as cold and exquisite as this....


    "My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
    Meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
    Original skin many men comprehend
    I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
    Sin all depends on what you believing in
    Faith is what you make it that's the hardest ? since MC Ren
    Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
    Look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now and then
    It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
    Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends"
  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Black Thought is highly underrated...

    Big Boi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biggie

    Blasphemy.
  • Lefty_
    Lefty_ Members, Writer Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would tell smack to set it up but that ? is just stupid.
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    Lefty_ wrote: »
    Black Thought is highly underrated...

    Big Boi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biggie

    Blasphemy.

    Should've never gave that a response.
  • aneed123
    aneed123 Members Posts: 23,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    big outkast fan but he dont have enough solo work. pac the goat then nas
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
    Krayzie Bone the goat if Andre 3000 is in the discussion then so is Krayzie ? it.
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why ? love giving 3000 all the credit for Outkast discography. Like Big Boi ideas had nothing to do with the greatness of the group.
  • JonnyRoccIT
    JonnyRoccIT Members Posts: 14,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I HATE ALL YOU ?
  • 5 Grand
    5 Grand Members Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭✭
    achewon87 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Black Thought doesn't have any solo albums, but I'd consider him better than Andre 3000.

    Then again, I prefer The Roots to Outkast.

    So my point is Andre 3K isn't The Goat because Black Thought is better imo.

    Thats just my opinion.

    Name Black Thoughts top 5 verses. I'll challenge u

    1. last verse on Universe @ War
    2. Web
    3. 75 Bars
    4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)


    And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;

    Harvard Freestyle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA

    That ? took u a min huh? Lol

    Word. Now listen to these

    Any verse on Southernplayalistic
    Any verse on ATLiens
    Any verse on Aquemini
    Any verse on Stankonia
    Any random verse on somebody else's project

    Nobody ever remembers Black Thoughts rhymes....fact. That's no disrespect to Black Thought, homie is a GREAT top 20 rapper so don't get it twisted.

    I could have done the same thing and said, "any verse on Illadelph Halflife"

    Find me a Black Thought verse as cold and exquisite as this....


    "My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
    Meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
    Original skin many men comprehend
    I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
    Sin all depends on what you believing in
    Faith is what you make it that's the hardest ? since MC Ren
    Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
    Look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now and then
    It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
    Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends"
    Take stock in the soul, spit properly
    That extended clip on my hip sits awkwardly
    I'm diabolical, follicle triggers that I ? and squeeze
    Sending shots to ancient Greece to pop Socrates
    I bear arms like button-downs without the sleeves
    Manic depressive and possessive like apostrophes
    My psychiatrist waive the doctor fees
    When I wave the pistol and say listen, quit watchin' me so I can breathe
    National Association for the Advancement
    Of drugs for performance enhancement
    And it's tough taking so many chances
    But I've been a bad seed from the ? , they call me ovary cancer
    And I got an ugly heart, although I'm totally handsome
    And I take the love of your life and hold her for ransom
    And my tactical cam that never stood for any national anthems
    Whats hood, I am the actual answer
    And I'll prove it
    Black attire, rapid fire, rapid eye movement
    I'm from a species that is higher, I am not human
    Extraterrestrial alien, a monster killer of conscience chillin'
    In a barrel of lobster
    Ex-Slave, sadomasochist, that gave the ? my ass to kiss
    A dyin' breed, I'm the last of this
    Black is as miraculous as Jesus of Nazareth
    When I vocalize the crowd rise like Lazarus
    It's the Rhode Scholar, my coat collar ? off PETA
    Your hoes holla, he's on top of the bars
    Meet a Mr. Globe Trotter in my Adidas
    Pure cheetah, hoppin' out of this exotic European 4 seater
    Hollerin' cheeba cheeba like I'm Parkside
    Killin' is the dark side
    Villain, I'm ? , I'm Godzilla
    Sometimes I'm Bob Dylan put blood on these tracks, for real
    So, ? -willin' you'll feel what I'm spillin'
    Yeah, I never quit, I'm still syndicatin' up
    Me and Pharoahe Monch, did it for the benefit of us
    This is straight razor behavior, I never get enough
    Get the picture, my militia gettin' ignorant as ?

    Black Thought would murder Andre in a battle.
  • The Recipe
    The Recipe Members Posts: 10,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Why ? love giving 3000 all the credit for Outkast discography. Like Big Boi ideas had nothing to do with the greatness of the group.

    Since he dresses weird he is the "creative" of the group. Lmfao.
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    achewon87 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Black Thought doesn't have any solo albums, but I'd consider him better than Andre 3000.

    Then again, I prefer The Roots to Outkast.

    So my point is Andre 3K isn't The Goat because Black Thought is better imo.

    Thats just my opinion.

    Name Black Thoughts top 5 verses. I'll challenge u

    1. last verse on Universe @ War
    2. Web
    3. 75 Bars
    4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)


    And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;

    Harvard Freestyle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA

    That ? took u a min huh? Lol

    Word. Now listen to these

    Any verse on Southernplayalistic
    Any verse on ATLiens
    Any verse on Aquemini
    Any verse on Stankonia
    Any random verse on somebody else's project

    Nobody ever remembers Black Thoughts rhymes....fact. That's no disrespect to Black Thought, homie is a GREAT top 20 rapper so don't get it twisted.

    I could have done the same thing and said, "any verse on Illadelph Halflife"

    Find me a Black Thought verse as cold and exquisite as this....


    "My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
    Meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
    Original skin many men comprehend
    I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
    Sin all depends on what you believing in
    Faith is what you make it that's the hardest ? since MC Ren
    Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
    Look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now and then
    It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
    Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends"
    Take stock in the soul, spit properly
    That extended clip on my hip sits awkwardly
    I'm diabolical, follicle triggers that I ? and squeeze
    Sending shots to ancient Greece to pop Socrates
    I bear arms like button-downs without the sleeves
    Manic depressive and possessive like apostrophes
    My psychiatrist waive the doctor fees
    When I wave the pistol and say listen, quit watchin' me so I can breathe
    National Association for the Advancement
    Of drugs for performance enhancement
    And it's tough taking so many chances
    But I've been a bad seed from the ? , they call me ovary cancer
    And I got an ugly heart, although I'm totally handsome
    And I take the love of your life and hold her for ransom
    And my tactical cam that never stood for any national anthems
    Whats hood, I am the actual answer
    And I'll prove it
    Black attire, rapid fire, rapid eye movement
    I'm from a species that is higher, I am not human
    Extraterrestrial alien, a monster killer of conscience chillin'
    In a barrel of lobster
    Ex-Slave, sadomasochist, that gave the ? my ass to kiss
    A dyin' breed, I'm the last of this
    Black is as miraculous as Jesus of Nazareth
    When I vocalize the crowd rise like Lazarus
    It's the Rhode Scholar, my coat collar ? off PETA
    Your hoes holla, he's on top of the bars
    Meet a Mr. Globe Trotter in my Adidas
    Pure cheetah, hoppin' out of this exotic European 4 seater
    Hollerin' cheeba cheeba like I'm Parkside
    Killin' is the dark side
    Villain, I'm ? , I'm Godzilla
    Sometimes I'm Bob Dylan put blood on these tracks, for real
    So, ? -willin' you'll feel what I'm spillin'
    Yeah, I never quit, I'm still syndicatin' up
    Me and Pharoahe Monch, did it for the benefit of us
    This is straight razor behavior, I never get enough
    Get the picture, my militia gettin' ignorant as ?

    Why u out here helpin Grandmaster Flash bruh?
  • BenjaminE
    BenjaminE Members Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    5 Grand wrote: »
    achewon87 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Black Thought doesn't have any solo albums, but I'd consider him better than Andre 3000.

    Then again, I prefer The Roots to Outkast.

    So my point is Andre 3K isn't The Goat because Black Thought is better imo.

    Thats just my opinion.

    Name Black Thoughts top 5 verses. I'll challenge u

    1. last verse on Universe @ War
    2. Web
    3. 75 Bars
    4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)


    And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;

    Harvard Freestyle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA

    That ? took u a min huh? Lol

    Word. Now listen to these

    Any verse on Southernplayalistic
    Any verse on ATLiens
    Any verse on Aquemini
    Any verse on Stankonia
    Any random verse on somebody else's project

    Nobody ever remembers Black Thoughts rhymes....fact. That's no disrespect to Black Thought, homie is a GREAT top 20 rapper so don't get it twisted.

    I could have done the same thing and said, "any verse on Illadelph Halflife"

    Find me a Black Thought verse as cold and exquisite as this....


    "My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
    Meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
    Original skin many men comprehend
    I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
    Sin all depends on what you believing in
    Faith is what you make it that's the hardest ? since MC Ren
    Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
    Look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now and then
    It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
    Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends"
    Take stock in the soul, spit properly
    That extended clip on my hip sits awkwardly
    I'm diabolical, follicle triggers that I ? and squeeze
    Sending shots to ancient Greece to pop Socrates
    I bear arms like button-downs without the sleeves
    Manic depressive and possessive like apostrophes
    My psychiatrist waive the doctor fees
    When I wave the pistol and say listen, quit watchin' me so I can breathe
    National Association for the Advancement
    Of drugs for performance enhancement
    And it's tough taking so many chances
    But I've been a bad seed from the ? , they call me ovary cancer
    And I got an ugly heart, although I'm totally handsome
    And I take the love of your life and hold her for ransom
    And my tactical cam that never stood for any national anthems
    Whats hood, I am the actual answer
    And I'll prove it
    Black attire, rapid fire, rapid eye movement
    I'm from a species that is higher, I am not human
    Extraterrestrial alien, a monster killer of conscience chillin'
    In a barrel of lobster
    Ex-Slave, sadomasochist, that gave the ? my ass to kiss
    A dyin' breed, I'm the last of this
    Black is as miraculous as Jesus of Nazareth
    When I vocalize the crowd rise like Lazarus
    It's the Rhode Scholar, my coat collar ? off PETA
    Your hoes holla, he's on top of the bars
    Meet a Mr. Globe Trotter in my Adidas
    Pure cheetah, hoppin' out of this exotic European 4 seater
    Hollerin' cheeba cheeba like I'm Parkside
    Killin' is the dark side
    Villain, I'm ? , I'm Godzilla
    Sometimes I'm Bob Dylan put blood on these tracks, for real
    So, ? -willin' you'll feel what I'm spillin'
    Yeah, I never quit, I'm still syndicatin' up
    Me and Pharoahe Monch, did it for the benefit of us
    This is straight razor behavior, I never get enough
    Get the picture, my militia gettin' ignorant as ?

    Black Thought would murder Andre in a battle.

    U compared Outkast to Tag Team... foh...
  • LcnsdbyROYALTY
    LcnsdbyROYALTY Members Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2017
    Stew wrote: »
    achewon87 wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Stew wrote: »
    5 Grand wrote: »
    Black Thought doesn't have any solo albums, but I'd consider him better than Andre 3000.

    Then again, I prefer The Roots to Outkast.

    So my point is Andre 3K isn't The Goat because Black Thought is better imo.

    Thats just my opinion.

    Name Black Thoughts top 5 verses. I'll challenge u

    1. last verse on Universe @ War
    2. Web
    3. 75 Bars
    4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)


    And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;

    Harvard Freestyle
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA

    That ? took u a min huh? Lol

    Word. Now listen to these

    Any verse on Southernplayalistic
    Any verse on ATLiens
    Any verse on Aquemini
    Any verse on Stankonia
    Any random verse on somebody else's project

    Nobody ever remembers Black Thoughts rhymes....fact. That's no disrespect to Black Thought, homie is a GREAT top 20 rapper so don't get it twisted.

    I could have done the same thing and said, "any verse on Illadelph Halflife"

    Find me a Black Thought verse as cold and exquisite as this....


    "My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
    Meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
    Original skin many men comprehend
    I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
    Sin all depends on what you believing in
    Faith is what you make it that's the hardest ? since MC Ren
    Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
    Look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now and then
    It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
    Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends"
    Take stock in the soul, spit properly
    That extended clip on my hip sits awkwardly
    I'm diabolical, follicle triggers that I ? and squeeze
    Sending shots to ancient Greece to pop Socrates
    I bear arms like button-downs without the sleeves
    Manic depressive and possessive like apostrophes
    My psychiatrist waive the doctor fees
    When I wave the pistol and say listen, quit watchin' me so I can breathe
    National Association for the Advancement
    Of drugs for performance enhancement
    And it's tough taking so many chances
    But I've been a bad seed from the ? , they call me ovary cancer
    And I got an ugly heart, although I'm totally handsome
    And I take the love of your life and hold her for ransom
    And my tactical cam that never stood for any national anthems
    Whats hood, I am the actual answer
    And I'll prove it
    Black attire, rapid fire, rapid eye movement
    I'm from a species that is higher, I am not human
    Extraterrestrial alien, a monster killer of conscience chillin'
    In a barrel of lobster
    Ex-Slave, sadomasochist, that gave the ? my ass to kiss
    A dyin' breed, I'm the last of this
    Black is as miraculous as Jesus of Nazareth
    When I vocalize the crowd rise like Lazarus
    It's the Rhode Scholar, my coat collar ? off PETA
    Your hoes holla, he's on top of the bars
    Meet a Mr. Globe Trotter in my Adidas
    Pure cheetah, hoppin' out of this exotic European 4 seater
    Hollerin' cheeba cheeba like I'm Parkside
    Killin' is the dark side
    Villain, I'm ? , I'm Godzilla
    Sometimes I'm Bob Dylan put blood on these tracks, for real
    So, ? -willin' you'll feel what I'm spillin'
    Yeah, I never quit, I'm still syndicatin' up
    Me and Pharoahe Monch, did it for the benefit of us
    This is straight razor behavior, I never get enough
    Get the picture, my militia gettin' ignorant as ?

    Why u out here helpin Grandmaster Flash Afrika Bambatta bruh?

    Fixed...
  • Mr.LV
    Mr.LV Members Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nas is better than Andre 3000
  • AZTG
    AZTG Members Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    3k dope and if hes yall number one, thats cool.

    But, on a objective level, dont put him above Nas. Rapping on an extremely high level for over 25 years has got to mean something.

    Why andre 3k hasnt released a solo? News stay coming out about how insecure he is with his ? and how he dont got no passion for rap, and how he dont got ? to rap about right?

    And its been like that for 10+ years. My dude 3k a legend, one of the most skilled rappers to ever rap. But he ran out of ? to rap about 10 years in. Nas been rapping for 25 years and he still got ? to rap about. Thats the craziest ? about Nas to me. Like bruh how you dont run out of bars?
  • InverseCulture
    InverseCulture Members Posts: 3
    Black Thought is a stellar MC. So is 3Stacks.

    The production... incredible on both ends. The Dungeon Family assisted with more experimental sounds, however a jazz-rap band is nothing to sneeze at. I call draw on this one.
  • rip.dilla
    rip.dilla Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?

    Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"

    Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.



    Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.


    3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
  • JonnyRoccIT
    JonnyRoccIT Members Posts: 14,389 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?

    Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"

    Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.



    Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.


    3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...

    I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.

    Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
    He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
  • texas409
    texas409 Members Posts: 20,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    real question though....why doesnt he have a solo album? I never thought about it til now
  • achewon87
    achewon87 Members Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    rip.dilla wrote: »
    Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?

    Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"

    Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.



    Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.


    3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...

    I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.

    Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
    He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music

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