HipHopDX Breakdown - Andre 3000: The Greatest Rapper Of All Time
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JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time? -
The Recipe wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time?
I mean...if we wanna be technical,
Dre already won a GRAMMY for Album of the Year for two Solo projects Coupled together as One. -
The Recipe wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time?
And actually he does rap Most of the time...i said he incorporates a lot of singing and other non hip hop elements into his music alot...not MOST of the time because if we went through his catalog and compared all the songs he rapped vs sung...it would be mostly Rapped period brah -
JonnyRoccIT wrote: »The Recipe wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time?
And actually he does rap Most of the time...i said he incorporates a lot of singing and other non hip hop elements into his music alot...not MOST of the time because if we went through his catalog and compared all the songs he rapped vs sung...it would be mostly Rapped period brah
Execpt on his solo...
When it mattered most, he choose hit pop songs over hiphop respect, now y'all want to cry over it...
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JonnyRoccIT wrote: »The Recipe wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time?
And actually he does rap Most of the time...i said he incorporates a lot of singing and other non hip hop elements into his music alot...not MOST of the time because if we went through his catalog and compared all the songs he rapped vs sung...it would be mostly Rapped period brah
Execpt on his solo...
When it mattered most, he choose hit pop songs over hiphop respect, now y'all want to cry over it...
Lol or maybe he already PROVED he could rap and didn't have to consider another group member on what type of music to make...plz tell me you understand that concept -
JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Then I'm not interested in labelling him the best in the rap game ever too if he can't be bothered to prove it..
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JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »The Recipe wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Is Andre 3000 the Greatest RAPPER of All Time.?
Not "Is Andre 3000 the Greatest Solo Hip Hop artist of all Time.?"
Even disregarding whether he has a solo album out or not we can also argue someone like Jay Electronica is the greatest rapper of all time too, no? Cos I've hardly heard anyone say Jay Elect wack.
Even if we do disregard him having a solo album or not I personally feel there's rappers better than him.
3k needs a personal body of music to claim GOAT by his fans. He's lyrically excellent in every ramifications but to be the best he needs a solo and not just impressive guest features...
I think we should take his features for what it is and judge him on everything he puts out because Even if he did...it won't be a full Hip Hop album because we all know Dre is very multi dimensional and experimental. Even Outkast albums were always mixed with Singing and many other Non-hip hop elements.
Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Occasional verses dont mean you cant ? on everybody, classic bodies of work like Illmatic, Black Album, MATW, GKMC show that when you drop the album of the year thats how you ? on everybody thats irrefutable. If he is so experimental why are you argueing so hard for his GOAT status as a rapper if he aint rapping most of the time?
And actually he does rap Most of the time...i said he incorporates a lot of singing and other non hip hop elements into his music alot...not MOST of the time because if we went through his catalog and compared all the songs he rapped vs sung...it would be mostly Rapped period brah
Execpt on his solo...
When it mattered most, he choose hit pop songs over hiphop respect, now y'all want to cry over it...
Lol or maybe he already PROVED he could rap and didn't have to consider another group member on what type of music to make...plz tell me you understand that concept
Nope...
He proved nothing other than being 1 half of a legendary group (My 2nd,3rd or 4th goat group depending on the day)
Please tell me you understand that... -
JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Then I'm not interested in labelling him the best in the rap game ever too if he can't be bothered to prove it..
You ain't gotta be...obviously there are people willing to label him that and able to look past the ? and look at talent...but hey like y'all said he's disqualified right.?
...So bet lol -
Nah
He up there though. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Nah
He up there though.
He CAN'T be up there...he doesn't have a Solo Album...he gotta be at least in the 30's lol -
JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Then I'm not interested in labelling him the best in the rap game ever too if he can't be bothered to prove it..
You ain't gotta be...obviously there are people willing to label him that and able to look past the ? and look at talent...but hey like y'all said he's disqualified right.?
...So bet lol
There's millions of rappers not even with a record deal that have enormous "talent".... we should make a case for them too -
If 3K is Goat, that means Big Boi is Co-Goat.
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JonnyRoccIT wrote: »JonnyRoccIT wrote: »Which is why i wanted to focus on his Raps and Skills because we know he's capable of being the best and that's why he throws them occasional verses out to show ? he can ? on everybody, he's just not really interested in proving it.
He just wants to do his own thing and make his Weird jammin ass experimenal music
Then I'm not interested in labelling him the best in the rap game ever too if he can't be bothered to prove it..
You ain't gotta be...obviously there are people willing to label him that and able to look past the ? and look at talent...but hey like y'all said he's disqualified right.?
...So bet lol
There's millions of rappers not even with a record deal that have enormous "talent".... we should make a case for them too
Brah is Andre a unknown rapper w/ no extensive catalog or is he a Legendary rapper w/ Many Classics to his name alongside Big Boi.?
Okay then, so why is that a point RN.?
...let's not try to make it seem like we don't know his greatness and what he's capable of. -
So 3k will beat BT In a battle? Lol.
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Y'all got 3k's top five verses?
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nickel-us P wrote: »Y'all got 3k's top five verses?
1. last verse on Universe @ War
2. Web
3. 75 Bars
4. 2nd and 3rd Verse in Boom (not because of the lyrics but because he sounds just like Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap. When this song came out I thought it was really Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap!!!)
And here's the number 5 verse, I'm not sure if its an actual song;
Harvard Freestyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DxO-66jrA
Any verse on Southernplayalistic
Any verse on ATLiens
Any verse on Aquemini
Any verse on Stankonia
Any random verse on somebody else's project
LMFAO -
? from ATL love they Andre
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king hassan wrote: »? from ATL love they Andre
That's really weird. -
If you being real with yourself. There's only two real options based on all the criteria listed throughout this thread. That starts a whole different level of discussion tho...
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real question though....why doesnt he have a solo album? I never thought about it til now
He does its just not what y'all wanted it to be lol which why this argument is dumb -
That love below ? was forgettable af that's why
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Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »That love below ? was forgettable af that's why
Nah, Love Below was bad. And whats makes it worse imo, is the 3-4 verses he does spit is fire. Like dafuq we couldn't get 14 tracks of that. -
The Love Below was bad? In terms of what? Musically it was a great body of work. She Lives in My Lap, vibrate, She's Alive, Prototype.... Foh!
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IceBergTaylor wrote: »The Love Below was bad? In terms of what? Musically it was a great body of work. She Lives in My Lap, vibrate, She's Alive, Prototype.... Foh!
Rap music...
Discussing GOAT rapper not GOAT musician...
I liked that disc on that album tho... -
IceBergTaylor wrote: »The Love Below was bad? In terms of what? Musically it was a great body of work. She Lives in My Lap, vibrate, She's Alive, Prototype.... Foh!
Rap music...
Discussing GOAT rapper not GOAT musician...
I liked that disc on that album tho...
I don't get what is the discussion here. The Love Below was never intended to be a rap album so why is it "bad because it's not a rap album" is the argument I don't understand