JOE B SAYS CAMRON IS THE REASON FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE SOUTH & CAM'S THE REASON THEY LISTEN TO THEM
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FOLKS JUST SAY ANYTHING THIS DAYS..
HE WENT ALLLLLL THE WAY TO LIL WAYNE...HE BYPASSED OUTKAST (WHICH HAD THE WHOLE NYC HATING ON THEM AT THE SOURCE AWARDS)
https://youtu.be/kxuxYrRRLUM?t=5m23s
HE WENT ALLLLLL THE WAY TO LIL WAYNE...HE BYPASSED OUTKAST (WHICH HAD THE WHOLE NYC HATING ON THEM AT THE SOURCE AWARDS)
https://youtu.be/kxuxYrRRLUM?t=5m23s JOE B SAYS CAMRON IS THE REASON FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE SOUTH & CAM'S THE REASON THEY LISTEN TO THEM 55 votes
GTFOH
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YEAH, JOE IS CORRECT
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GTFOHSo I guess master p never existed
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He's wrong cuz The South put in work from the West to the East to the Midwest !!!
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YEAH, JOE IS CORRECTCam and dip set killed traditional NY hip hop and opened the door for southern influence in the North East.
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i see what he's sayin and he has a point but he said it wrong/or in a way that makes it like he forgot bout outkast and even those b4 them. he aint mean to disrespect tho
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YEAH, JOE IS CORRECTI like cam so im go with it
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GTFOHI'm guessing by success of the South he talking about the South taking over NY becuz outside of the East the South been popular ? been rocking with no limit and cash money way B4 Dipset started messing with em
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He didn't say the south was never on he said over in the north east.
The south been put work in but wasn't really messed with up in the tristate outside of afew folks -
YEAH, JOE IS CORRECTWayne was heavily influenced by Cam and Jay. If you listened to the early Squad Up tapes when Wayne started changing up his flow and delivery. He was rhyming on a lot of Jays beats and mimicking his flow. Then he started ? with Dipset and using the Heatmakerz beats. Wayne really started popping off when he embraced the east sound and punchline style. That's all factz!
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Remember Nore started ? with Cash Money 1st. The East was ? with them especially Juve & BG. But The Wayne that rhymed with Nore & the Wayne that rhymed with Cam on Suck It Or Not are totally different.
I just think what would've happened if Cam kept Webbie on Suck It Or Not instead -
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NORE ? WITH PROJECT PAT FIRST I BELIEVEKneeGro_DuperMan wrote: »Remember Nore started ? with Cash Money 1st. The East was ? with them especially Juve & BG. But The Wayne that rhymed with Nore & the Wayne that rhymed with Cam on Suck It Or Not are totally different.
I just think what would've happened if Cam kept Webbie on Suck It Or Not instead
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Webbie on suck it or not wouldve been hilarious
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GTFOHMaster P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.
Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.
From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil ? in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.
Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that ? with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny ? .
I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong. -
It doesnt matter who ? with them. Nore, Cam, or Ruff Ryders. ? was going to happen. Record companies saw the writing on the wall. The south was popping everywhere else. If it wasnt Cam it was going to be someone else.
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Joe put drake >>>> cam and black thought so I'm not listening to nothin else
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Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.
Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.
From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil ? in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.
Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that ? with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny ? .
I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.
who is score face -
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It's 3 Souths.
The Outkast/Ugk/no limit/Big KRIT South
The lil wayne, ludacris, ti, Gucci, jeezy, Ross, young Dro south
and the crunk, snap, mumble gimmick rap South -
Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.
Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.
From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil ? in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.
Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that ? with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny ? .
I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.
When Wayne started to bubble, No Limit and Cash money was one their last leg. TI was hot and Jeezy was fire. Lil Wayne attached himself to Dipset even claiming them and repping the bloods to make him more popular. He had a buzz with the Carter album and his mixtapes were hot. But Being close to the Dipset who was popping at that time definitely help elevate his career. He now had the South and east coast in his pocket. Which at that time was the two biggest markets. -
GTFOHOne of the stupidest things I heard from Joe Budden and hes in my top 3.
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YEAH, JOE IS CORRECTListencloser wrote: »Cam and dip set killed traditional NY hip hop and opened the door for southern influence in the North East.
How the ? did this get no signs? ? is facts. Dipset accellerated that LA blood gang ? in NY too. ? Dipset for turning NY into ? riders. -
GTFOHpower_wisdom wrote: »Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.
Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.
From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil ? in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.
Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that ? with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny ? .
I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.
When Wayne started to bubble, No Limit and Cash money was one their last leg. TI was hot and Jeezy was fire. Lil Wayne attached himself to Dipset even claiming them and repping the bloods to make him more popular. He had a buzz with the Carter album and his mixtapes were hot. But Being close to the Dipset who was popping at that time definitely help elevate his career. He now had the South and east coast in his pocket. Which at that time was the two biggest markets.
Lil wayne's mixtape series' is what brought him to the light, he was on that blood ? because of Mack 10. You ? NY ? I swear bruh...? was not waitin on that Wayne and Juelz album to hear Juelz B. -
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power_wisdom wrote: »Master P claiming a lot of the market share in the wake of Big and Pacs death is what opened the door for the south takeover, they'd already had a voice in the form of outkast, ghetto boys, score face, Luke, and others. Master P signing snoop is really what took the south to another level, because he was still a very, very big name at the time. And that brought everyone's ears to the south, and no limit.
Then cash money taking the reins from no limit and making it fresher, then essentially changing what puff was doing with those shiny suits and turning it into the bling bling era/Flossin season once cash money slowed down and restructured then came lil john, jeezy, tip, gucci and the whole southern brigade round 03-04 after the GRODT tidal wave, and the rocafella break up, along with murda inc folding up, as well as ruff Ryders all but disappearing.
From there, Wayne becoming WAYNE, and influening just about every lil ? in the country, the trap sound, and crunk dominated for 3 to 4 years, add a few dances to it and you have the era of southern dominance.
Dip set had a run, and a great wave, but it had nothing to do with the south. They were dope on their own, They deserve credit for killing Big clothes though, Jim Jones deaded that ? with the pseudo rock star look, then it evolved to other way too corny ? .
I didn't even need to watch that video to know dude is wrong.
When Wayne started to bubble, No Limit and Cash money was one their last leg. TI was hot and Jeezy was fire. Lil Wayne attached himself to Dipset even claiming them and repping the bloods to make him more popular. He had a buzz with the Carter album and his mixtapes were hot. But Being close to the Dipset who was popping at that time definitely help elevate his career. He now had the South and east coast in his pocket. Which at that time was the two biggest markets.
Lil wayne's mixtape series' is what brought him to the light, he was on that blood ? because of Mack 10. You ? NY ? I swear bruh...? was not waitin on that Wayne and Juelz album to hear Juelz B.
Dipset made it cool to be a fake Blood. outside the western half of the country. Nobody was talking about Mack 10 in music. His career had been over in the mid 2000s. And Wayne wasn't repping blood hard until he started to hang with Dipset. Not say Mac 10 didn't but him down. But that wasn't what he was selling. His mixtapes got him hot, but hanging with Cam and them got him bazing on the whole east coast. And I'm from NJ ? . -
YEAH, JOE IS CORRECTI did not listen to this interview. However, I will say as far as nyc goes, cam'ron had a big influence on diversifying what people listened too.
even before co-signing wayne. He had mixtape joints with T.I. before a lot of dudes in nyc was messing with t.i like that. He had wayne and baby on the oh boy remix back in 2002. And even looking at other regions, he had the lunatics on his mixtapes and even did songs with twista and ? .
not to mention he always toured down south and even remade bout it bout it, at a time when a lot of ny'ers were not messing with the south like that. did he invent the south? NO, of course not. but did he bring a southern vibe to ny sound, yes.
did he have uptown saying "bout it bout it" yes. did he have uptown checking old twista albums and adreneline rush, yes.
and he was forever shouting out ohio and all other kinds of cities in the midwest. and giving props to all kinds of folks even doing songs with bonecrusher and rapping over gucci mane and oj da juicemayne beats, at a time when nyc'ers were booing oj da juiceman off stage...
how can anyone say cam didn't help influence south in nyc? -
I think the fans in the south co-signing Dipset gave dispset power ...
There have been time when Ny was not so hott
but you had south nuccaz like Paul Wall and others that was influenced by Dipset
I believe Dipset influenced the fashion not necessarily the music.
Dipset helped Dipset to me they didn't help South rappers to get recognized
but may have contributed to them getting more luv
Most definitely put Harlem on to the South but the other Boroughs maybe not as much
South had to collab with other Ny greats from those places like Queens etc.
To say the only reason NYC messes with the South is cuz of Dipset is not true imo ....
