Big Baller Brand Didn’t Sell Nearly As Many Lonzo Ball Shoes As Initially Reported

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  • VulcanRaven
    VulcanRaven Members Posts: 18,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    read about..but didn't post it.

    he learning the troll game from his dad.

    but y'all say Amy attention bring attention to the company... bad or good.

    yep

    Did Lonzo dunk on you back in the day bruh?
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    read about..but didn't post it.

    he learning the troll game from his dad.

    but y'all say Amy attention bring attention to the company... bad or good.

    yep

    Did Lonzo dunk on you back in the day bruh?

    try again.
  • VulcanRaven
    VulcanRaven Members Posts: 18,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    read about..but didn't post it.

    he learning the troll game from his dad.

    but y'all say Amy attention bring attention to the company... bad or good.

    yep

    Did Lonzo dunk on you back in the day bruh?

    try again.

    I meant to say Lavar but that's worse lol. He did you like he would have did Jordan? Ol 2stepz got yammed on
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    read about..but didn't post it.

    he learning the troll game from his dad.

    but y'all say Amy attention bring attention to the company... bad or good.

    yep

    Did Lonzo dunk on you back in the day bruh?

    try again.

    I meant to say Lavar but that's worse lol. He did you like he would have did Jordan? Ol 2stepz got yammed on

    still not good.
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Broddie wrote: »
    You want to support him for the sentiment but the shoes are so ugly and overpriced you go "nah that's ok but best of luck to ya."

    Lavar that ? .

    But the shoes are so trash


    ? look like And1. Hopefully he gets a better shoe designer on his team
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2017
    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20554525/lavar-ball-brushes-lamelo-ball-eligibility-concerns-says-ncaa-not-my-boss
    LaVar: LaMelo shoe takes priority over eligibility

    CHINO, Calif. -- If having a signature shoe ultimately costs 16-year-old LaMelo Ball his NCAA eligibility, his father, LaVar Ball, isn't worried about it.

    Given a choice between one or the other, LaVar said the priority is the shoe.

    "He's going to have a shoe," LaVar said Saturday night during his son's 16th birthday party, held at an event space at the Chino Airport. "NCAA ain't going to tell me s---. Because they're not my boss. That's what they do, but they're not going to be like, 'Oh, LaVar, you can't bring that shoe out until we tell you.' What? Something that I'm doing for my family? That's mine? I'm not under no umbrella."

    LaMelo Ball's shoe -- the MB1 -- was available Thursday for preorder through Big Baller Brand's website for $395. His oldest brother, Los Angeles Lakers rookie and former UCLA standout Lonzo Ball, introduced his signature shoe this summer for $495.

    LaMelo verbally committed to attend UCLA in two years. Currently, he attends Chino Hills High and is ranked as the No. 7 player in the Class of 2019.

    In a statement regarding the matter, the NCAA on Thursday told ESPN's Darren Rovell, "Generally speaking, a college athlete or prospect paid for use of their athletics reputation or ability risks their future eligibility in that sport."

    "This includes profiting from the sale of items bearing the young person's name," NCAA spokesperson Emily James told Rovell. "NCAA rules, however, do allow prospects to promote commercial products prior to enrollment, provided it is not for pay."

    Said LaVar, "They're not going to tell me what I can do for my son and my family. He's not even in the NCAA, and that's the first thing they're coming up with instead of saying, 'Oh, that's a nice shoe. Your dad just gave a shoe to him, a signature shoe that he can play in that's to his specifications.' They're not looking at that part. They're looking at, 'How can we make it negative?' By saying, 'Oh, he's got to be ineligible for that. Gotta be.' No, it never happened before, so what are you saying?"

    If LaMelo Ball isn't eligible to play college basketball because of his shoe, LaVar said he'll still train his son with the goal of helping him reach the NBA.

    "We'll sit out a year or two," LaVar said. "Just get stronger and faster, and then go into [NBA training] camp as a free agent. He already got the narrative -- he can play, he can play. You see what he's doing at 15 and 16. Don't think that by the time he gets 17, 18 that he ain't going to be 10 times better than what he is now. And everybody says, 'Oh, he got to gain more weight.' Why? What you have to do is be strong. It ain't about the weight. It's about the strength."

    When asked if his son would go play overseas, perhaps in Asia or Europe, instead of playing college basketball, LaVar flashed a smile.

    "Everybody else got to go because you've got to make some money," LaVar said. "We need to make money, [but] we ain't got to go nowhere. All we got to do is train. They want to see whether you can make a shot, whether you can run or you're strong. The game don't change."

    LaVar added, "If we already got this narrative of being a good player and a top-10 pick as a high schooler, if you go to college and you don't perform, you can't do nothing but hurt yourself. So what I'm saying is, I'm not going to make it a big deal where I'm like, Melo definitely has to go to college in order for him to succeed. You just gotta be ready to play and do your job."

    LaMelo Ball didn't seem too concerned about facing a potential dilemma regarding his eligibility.

    "I've still got two years left, so I'll worry about that when it gets there," he said.

    UCLA issued a statement to ESPN earlier this week that said the university could not comment specifically about LaMelo Ball, citing NCAA rules.

    "UCLA cannot comment on any prospective student-athlete until he or she has signed a letter of intent or scholarship agreement," the statement read. "Any prospective student-athlete's amateur status needs to be certified prior to his or her participating in team activity. As such, NCAA eligibility is assessed at the start of every student-athlete's academic year and is re-evaluated, as needed. Once cleared by the NCAA, institutions can allow that student-athlete to participate."

    LiAngelo (Gelo) Ball, the Ball family's middle brother, is a freshman for the Bruins.

    soooo.

    y'all read this as a good thing I guess?

    did I or did I not say...this is more about him than his sons an he could hurt his kids.

    so now after two kids went/going to college... now it's not a requirement?

    smdh

    he's too worried about himself looking defiant...an how people are against him.
    so he has an out if things don't work out but takes all the credit if they do.

    guess who else does that?

    an to not even have a back up plan? he'll handle it when it comes up?

    this the business genius y'all rooting for?

    I am really surprised ...y'all can't see this is all game. don't be blinded by this guy by wanting to support a black mans business.

    he's not stupid...this is victim marketing
  • mc317
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    Respect his hustle but sometimes he needs to shut the ? up
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    mc317 wrote: »
    Respect his hustle but sometimes he needs to shut the ? up

    exactly...

    some of the ? he days is just not needed.

    just build the brand behind the scenes an let ya kids shine.

    ? really have a problem with saying he should fall back.
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    Durant a whole fukk ? .

    brass ring having ?

    one of the best in the league but don't wanna standout ass ? .
  • Young_Chitlin
    Young_Chitlin Members Posts: 23,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Durant a whole fukk ? .

    brass ring having ?

    one of the best in the league but don't wanna standout ass ? .

    Tranquilo hermano
  • MR.CJ
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  • MECCA1000
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    MR.CJ wrote: »

    Lonzo money getting put to good use already .........
  • Bender Rodriguez
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    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20554525/lavar-ball-brushes-lamelo-ball-eligibility-concerns-says-ncaa-not-my-boss
    LaVar: LaMelo shoe takes priority over eligibility

    CHINO, Calif. -- If having a signature shoe ultimately costs 16-year-old LaMelo Ball his NCAA eligibility, his father, LaVar Ball, isn't worried about it.

    Given a choice between one or the other, LaVar said the priority is the shoe.

    "He's going to have a shoe," LaVar said Saturday night during his son's 16th birthday party, held at an event space at the Chino Airport. "NCAA ain't going to tell me s---. Because they're not my boss. That's what they do, but they're not going to be like, 'Oh, LaVar, you can't bring that shoe out until we tell you.' What? Something that I'm doing for my family? That's mine? I'm not under no umbrella."

    LaMelo Ball's shoe -- the MB1 -- was available Thursday for preorder through Big Baller Brand's website for $395. His oldest brother, Los Angeles Lakers rookie and former UCLA standout Lonzo Ball, introduced his signature shoe this summer for $495.

    LaMelo verbally committed to attend UCLA in two years. Currently, he attends Chino Hills High and is ranked as the No. 7 player in the Class of 2019.

    In a statement regarding the matter, the NCAA on Thursday told ESPN's Darren Rovell, "Generally speaking, a college athlete or prospect paid for use of their athletics reputation or ability risks their future eligibility in that sport."

    "This includes profiting from the sale of items bearing the young person's name," NCAA spokesperson Emily James told Rovell. "NCAA rules, however, do allow prospects to promote commercial products prior to enrollment, provided it is not for pay."

    Said LaVar, "They're not going to tell me what I can do for my son and my family. He's not even in the NCAA, and that's the first thing they're coming up with instead of saying, 'Oh, that's a nice shoe. Your dad just gave a shoe to him, a signature shoe that he can play in that's to his specifications.' They're not looking at that part. They're looking at, 'How can we make it negative?' By saying, 'Oh, he's got to be ineligible for that. Gotta be.' No, it never happened before, so what are you saying?"

    If LaMelo Ball isn't eligible to play college basketball because of his shoe, LaVar said he'll still train his son with the goal of helping him reach the NBA.

    "We'll sit out a year or two," LaVar said. "Just get stronger and faster, and then go into [NBA training] camp as a free agent. He already got the narrative -- he can play, he can play. You see what he's doing at 15 and 16. Don't think that by the time he gets 17, 18 that he ain't going to be 10 times better than what he is now. And everybody says, 'Oh, he got to gain more weight.' Why? What you have to do is be strong. It ain't about the weight. It's about the strength."

    When asked if his son would go play overseas, perhaps in Asia or Europe, instead of playing college basketball, LaVar flashed a smile.

    "Everybody else got to go because you've got to make some money," LaVar said. "We need to make money, [but] we ain't got to go nowhere. All we got to do is train. They want to see whether you can make a shot, whether you can run or you're strong. The game don't change."

    LaVar added, "If we already got this narrative of being a good player and a top-10 pick as a high schooler, if you go to college and you don't perform, you can't do nothing but hurt yourself. So what I'm saying is, I'm not going to make it a big deal where I'm like, Melo definitely has to go to college in order for him to succeed. You just gotta be ready to play and do your job."

    LaMelo Ball didn't seem too concerned about facing a potential dilemma regarding his eligibility.

    "I've still got two years left, so I'll worry about that when it gets there," he said.

    UCLA issued a statement to ESPN earlier this week that said the university could not comment specifically about LaMelo Ball, citing NCAA rules.

    "UCLA cannot comment on any prospective student-athlete until he or she has signed a letter of intent or scholarship agreement," the statement read. "Any prospective student-athlete's amateur status needs to be certified prior to his or her participating in team activity. As such, NCAA eligibility is assessed at the start of every student-athlete's academic year and is re-evaluated, as needed. Once cleared by the NCAA, institutions can allow that student-athlete to participate."

    LiAngelo (Gelo) Ball, the Ball family's middle brother, is a freshman for the Bruins.

    soooo.

    y'all read this as a good thing I guess?

    did I or did I not say...this is more about him than his sons an he could hurt his kids.

    so now after two kids went/going to college... now it's not a requirement?

    smdh

    he's too worried about himself looking defiant...an how people are against him.
    so he has an out if things don't work out but takes all the credit if they do.

    guess who else does that?

    an to not even have a back up plan? he'll handle it when it comes up?

    this the business genius y'all rooting for?

    I am really surprised ...y'all can't see this is all game. don't be blinded by this guy by wanting to support a black mans business.

    he's not stupid...this is victim marketing

    yeah you right maybe he should let his son get pimped out by UCLA and make millions of him
  • CottonCitySlim
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    Lamelo can just play 1 year overseas he will be aight
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20554525/lavar-ball-brushes-lamelo-ball-eligibility-concerns-says-ncaa-not-my-boss
    LaVar: LaMelo shoe takes priority over eligibility

    CHINO, Calif. -- If having a signature shoe ultimately costs 16-year-old LaMelo Ball his NCAA eligibility, his father, LaVar Ball, isn't worried about it.

    Given a choice between one or the other, LaVar said the priority is the shoe.

    "He's going to have a shoe," LaVar said Saturday night during his son's 16th birthday party, held at an event space at the Chino Airport. "NCAA ain't going to tell me s---. Because they're not my boss. That's what they do, but they're not going to be like, 'Oh, LaVar, you can't bring that shoe out until we tell you.' What? Something that I'm doing for my family? That's mine? I'm not under no umbrella."

    LaMelo Ball's shoe -- the MB1 -- was available Thursday for preorder through Big Baller Brand's website for $395. His oldest brother, Los Angeles Lakers rookie and former UCLA standout Lonzo Ball, introduced his signature shoe this summer for $495.

    LaMelo verbally committed to attend UCLA in two years. Currently, he attends Chino Hills High and is ranked as the No. 7 player in the Class of 2019.

    In a statement regarding the matter, the NCAA on Thursday told ESPN's Darren Rovell, "Generally speaking, a college athlete or prospect paid for use of their athletics reputation or ability risks their future eligibility in that sport."

    "This includes profiting from the sale of items bearing the young person's name," NCAA spokesperson Emily James told Rovell. "NCAA rules, however, do allow prospects to promote commercial products prior to enrollment, provided it is not for pay."

    Said LaVar, "They're not going to tell me what I can do for my son and my family. He's not even in the NCAA, and that's the first thing they're coming up with instead of saying, 'Oh, that's a nice shoe. Your dad just gave a shoe to him, a signature shoe that he can play in that's to his specifications.' They're not looking at that part. They're looking at, 'How can we make it negative?' By saying, 'Oh, he's got to be ineligible for that. Gotta be.' No, it never happened before, so what are you saying?"

    If LaMelo Ball isn't eligible to play college basketball because of his shoe, LaVar said he'll still train his son with the goal of helping him reach the NBA.

    "We'll sit out a year or two," LaVar said. "Just get stronger and faster, and then go into [NBA training] camp as a free agent. He already got the narrative -- he can play, he can play. You see what he's doing at 15 and 16. Don't think that by the time he gets 17, 18 that he ain't going to be 10 times better than what he is now. And everybody says, 'Oh, he got to gain more weight.' Why? What you have to do is be strong. It ain't about the weight. It's about the strength."

    When asked if his son would go play overseas, perhaps in Asia or Europe, instead of playing college basketball, LaVar flashed a smile.

    "Everybody else got to go because you've got to make some money," LaVar said. "We need to make money, [but] we ain't got to go nowhere. All we got to do is train. They want to see whether you can make a shot, whether you can run or you're strong. The game don't change."

    LaVar added, "If we already got this narrative of being a good player and a top-10 pick as a high schooler, if you go to college and you don't perform, you can't do nothing but hurt yourself. So what I'm saying is, I'm not going to make it a big deal where I'm like, Melo definitely has to go to college in order for him to succeed. You just gotta be ready to play and do your job."

    LaMelo Ball didn't seem too concerned about facing a potential dilemma regarding his eligibility.

    "I've still got two years left, so I'll worry about that when it gets there," he said.

    UCLA issued a statement to ESPN earlier this week that said the university could not comment specifically about LaMelo Ball, citing NCAA rules.

    "UCLA cannot comment on any prospective student-athlete until he or she has signed a letter of intent or scholarship agreement," the statement read. "Any prospective student-athlete's amateur status needs to be certified prior to his or her participating in team activity. As such, NCAA eligibility is assessed at the start of every student-athlete's academic year and is re-evaluated, as needed. Once cleared by the NCAA, institutions can allow that student-athlete to participate."

    LiAngelo (Gelo) Ball, the Ball family's middle brother, is a freshman for the Bruins.

    soooo.

    y'all read this as a good thing I guess?

    did I or did I not say...this is more about him than his sons an he could hurt his kids.

    so now after two kids went/going to college... now it's not a requirement?

    smdh

    he's too worried about himself looking defiant...an how people are against him.
    so he has an out if things don't work out but takes all the credit if they do.

    guess who else does that?

    an to not even have a back up plan? he'll handle it when it comes up?

    this the business genius y'all rooting for?

    I am really surprised ...y'all can't see this is all game. don't be blinded by this guy by wanting to support a black mans business.

    he's not stupid...this is victim marketing

    yeah you right maybe he should let his son get pimped out by UCLA and make millions of him

    that what you from that....I see why y'all can't comprehend his game.


  • blackgod813
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    Yall seen that new video of the 16 year old ?
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    SMH @ me coming in this thread just to see @2stepz_ahead still hating on the Ball family :(

    never seen a black man so salty at how another black man decides to market his business


    but supposedly u all about black economic empowerment tho haha

    depends in how you look at it.

    I am....but obviously this dude aint
  • #1hiphopjunki3
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    I have a bit of a conspiracy theory with why Lavar Ball doesn't care is Melo Ball loses his NCAA basketball eligibility.

    He knows if Melo doesn't play NCAA ball he will have a higher chance of getting drafted (granted low 1st round) because the possibility of him getting exposed by the better competition is high.

    Not to mention Lavar is striking while the iron is hot with all the attention his family is getting. If Melo's stock drops while he is in high school at least the family can capitalize of off the hype now.
  • The_Jackal
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    I have a bit of a conspiracy theory with why Lavar Ball doesn't care is Melo Ball loses his NCAA basketball eligibility.

    He knows if Melo doesn't play NCAA ball he will have a higher chance of getting drafted (granted low 1st round) because the possibility of him getting exposed by the better competition is high.

    Not to mention Lavar is striking while the iron is hot with all the attention his family is getting. If Melo's stock drops while he is in high school at least the family can capitalize of off the hype now.

    What I initially thought too. If Lonzo is completely underperforming then its guaranteed that all the momentum they have built comes to a stop. Thus way at least the can make a lil bit of change.