So we just going to ignore the truth Ahmadinejad spits during interviews?
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lol in the us govt defense, it was Sherman who said that I think... not the govtkingblaze84 wrote: »and lied to Blacks about getting us our 40 acres and a mule after slavery.
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one_manshow wrote: »This man keeps spitting that gospel in terms of facts and issues people ignore yet he receives backlash from many when he speaks. The U.S delegates have walked out many times when he has talked nationally at the conventions...questions is when will people consider and pay close attention to what this man states?
yeah, it's a shame how he they boycott him everytime he speaks in front of the UN.
i think it goes back to the speech where they said he was talking about whiping isreal from the map, which was not true. he didnt say that. -
Jonas.dini wrote: »He's right to a good extent about israel, although it is primarily an appeal to emotion
His approach of just "asking questions" about the holocaust is, while hilarious, a pretty typical propaganda technique that when put in context amounts to holocaust denial
What he says about 9/11 is imo ? (King Blaze, the only way a building can fall is if a plane hits it? A massive fire brought on by the collapsing of the two biggest buildings in the US - save for the sears tower - in the direct vicinity that create the equivalent of an earthquake couldn't take down a building? C'mon son)
And he's an islamic fundamentalist
And he hangs ? people, while simultaneously giving off a closet case vibe
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holocaust denial automatically disqualifies you from any serious intellectual consideration -
walking out when you think he crosses the line is not the same thing as a boycottEuropeanAndWhite wrote: »yeah, it's a shame how he they boycott him everytime he speaks in front of the UN.
i think it goes back to the speech where they said he was talking about whiping isreal from the map, which was not true. he didnt say that. -
rusty shackleford wrote: »building 7 was the 3rd building in the history of modern architecture to collapse in on itself due to fire.. it wasn't even hit with a plane.. the first & second to ever fall were earlier that morning.. pancake collapse can't occure unless ALL of the support columns go at the exact moment.. this denotes the use of controlled demo charges.. could that be the reason that the towers were on complete lock down & closed to EVERYONE the weekend before this "terrorist attack"? sounds like a safe bet.
Dude, it's simple science. If something gets hot enough, then it will melt. -
walking out when you think he crosses the line is not the same thing as a boycott
the us delegation walks out everytime he starts speaking. and come on. for the us delegation he's crossing the line as soon as he sais something that doesnt fit in the us imperialistic agenda. which applies to basically everything he says. -
who gives a ? about what the head of a state that has habitually murdered kurds, ? , communists etc has to say about american imperialism or watever. to hell with the islamic state and their murderous mullahs and the leftist morons who support them.
on the point about his so called holocaust denial, no one here really knows what he believes. it is a deeply different thing to deny something and not believe something, and there isn't necessarily a direct connection.
if we take the armenian genocide, as an example, it is quite obvious that it would be impossible to have any sort of political career in turkey if you didn't deny that it happened. That doesn't necessarily mean that you believe that it didn't happen but just that you are publicly denying it. It is called political expediency.
he makes political capital from making statements like that. hes basically playin to his 'fans'. does that make him a ? or a smart political operator? -
theoretically... sure. but as i said, for the style of uniformed [pancake] collapse, every support beam & load bearin' column must fail at the same EXACT moment.. the odds of this taking place 3 times on the same day are beyond astronomical when taking into consideration that building 7 wasn't even hit but still achieved that same style of collapse. & i'm not just talkin' outta my ass, my family owns the 4th biggest concrete company in new jersey which specializes in the design & construction of reinforced concrete mega structures just like the twin towers..Maximus Rex wrote: »rusty shackleford wrote: »building 7 was the 3rd building in the history of modern architecture to collapse in on itself due to fire.. it wasn't even hit with a plane.. the first & second to ever fall were earlier that morning.. pancake collapse can't occur unless ALL of the support columns go at the exact moment.. this denotes the use of controlled demo charges.. could that be the reason that the towers were on complete lock down & closed to EVERYONE the weekend before this "terrorist attack"? sounds like a safe bet.
Dude, it's simple science. If something gets hot enough, then it will melt.
you can see the actual lights from detonation charges explode down the right portion of the building. detonation charges are 1st set off at the bottom & go up in a domino effect taking out support columns one floor at a time to assure a foot print collapse as opposed to one in which the building topples over.
in a court of law, if you write a plan out for the murder of another person & that person ends up missing or dead with details that match your plan... even if it's years later that the plan you concocted is discovered... barring any other evidence, there's a strong possibility that you'll catch a conviction based on circumstantial evidence alone.. sadly, our government obviously doesn't operate under the same rule of law.
Exhibit A: In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf <-read it for yourself..
... so as you can clearly see from the declassified U.S. government documents, the need for perceived provocation in order to get the american people so angry that they'll support a war effort is worth killing you, your mother, & everyone you know so they can tell your countrymen that a boogie man did it.. & that if they don't support immediate intervention, more americans WILL die. but of course they would know.. The Naval Institute’s website is featuring a detailed article by Daryl Borgquist to the effect that high Red Cross officials with close contacts to Roosevelt quietly ordered large quantities of medical supplies and experienced medical personnel shipped to Hawaii well before Dec. 7, 1941. In 1995, Helen Hamman, the daughter of one of these officials, wrote to Bill Clinton a letter disclosing that her father had told her in the 1970s that shortly before the Pearl Harbor attack Roosevelt had told her father of the impending raid and told him to send Red Cross workers and supplies to the West Coast to be deployed in Hawaii. Roosevelt, Ms. Hamman wrote, told her father "the American people would never agree to enter the war in Europe unless they were attack [sic] within their own borders."Borgquist’s research, now published in the Proceedings of the Naval Institute, shows that the Red Cross was indeed staffed up and on a war footing in Hawaii by November 1941.... & needless to say, the slaughter of a mere 3000 people was a simple task and a pretty good deal in exchange for control of our newly positioned puppet governments in charge of Afghanistan & Iraq. The Associated Press reported that the Enron corporation bribes Taliban officials as part of a “no-holds-barred bid to strike a deal for an energy pipeline in Afghanistan.” Atul Davda, a senior director for Enron’s International Division, will later claim, “Enron had intimate contact with Taliban officials.” Presumably this effort began around 1996, when a power plant Enron was building in India ran into trouble and Enron began an attempt to supply it with natural gas via a planned pipeline through Afghanistan (see 1995-November 2001 and June 24, 1996). In 1997, Enron executives privately meet with Taliban officials in Texas (see December 4, 1997). They are “given the red-carpet treatment and promised a fortune if the deal [goes] through.” It is alleged Enron secretly employs CIA agents to carry out its dealings overseas. According to a CIA source, “Enron proposed to pay the Taliban large sums of money in a ‘tax’ on every cubic foot of gas and oil shipped through a pipeline they planned to build.” This source claims Enron paid more than $400 million for a feasibility study on the pipeline and “a large portion of that cost was pay-offs to the Taliban.” Enron continues to encourage the Taliban about the pipeline even after Unocal officially gives up on the pipeline in the wake of the African embassy bombings (see December 5, 1998). An investigation after Enron’s collapse in 2001 (see December 2, 2001) will determine that some of this pay-off money ended up funding al-Qaeda. [Associated Press, 3/7/2002] Representatives of the Taliban are invited guests to the Texas headquarters of Unocal to negotiate their support for the pipeline. Future President George W. Bush is Governor of Texas at the time. The Taliban appear to agree to a $2 billion pipeline deal, but will do the deal only if the US officially recognizes the Taliban regime. The Taliban meet with US officials. According to the Daily Telegraph, “the US government, which in the past has branded the Taliban’s policies against women and children ‘despicable,’ appears anxious to please the fundamentalists to clinch the lucrative pipeline contract.” A BBC regional correspondent says that “the proposal to build a pipeline across Afghanistan is part of an international scramble to profit from developing the rich energy resources of the Caspian Sea.”
.. when the pipe line fell through, they needed a good reason to dismantle the taliban so they could put the pipe line across afghanistan.. so they dug up the northwoods plan & they rest is, as they say, his-story. problem reaction solution. -
so... are we saying the US delegation has walked out on him, or that they "boycott" him?EuropeanAndWhite wrote: »the us delegation walks out everytime he starts speaking. and come on. for the us delegation he's crossing the line as soon as he sais something that doesnt fit in the us imperialistic agenda. which applies to basically everything he says. -
so... are we saying the US delegation has walked out on him, or that they "boycott" him?
They do both knowing that he doesn't confine to their views to many he is considered abnormal and abrasive its the reason why the walk out when he speaks.. People can point fingers at the things he does as a leader but show me a world leader who is more brave to challenge views and call out people on contradictions? Show me a leader who doesn't ? his people? *waits for sarcastic rebuttal* -
let me restate the question: are you ready to acknowledge there's a difference between that and "boycotting" him?one_manshow wrote: »They do both knowing that he doesn't confine to their views to many he is considered abnormal and abrasive its the reason why the walk out when he speaks...
please, the man isn't willing to challenge views or call out contradictions in his own nation. this hardly makes him the leading figure for such things.one_manshow wrote: »People can point fingers at the things he does as a leader but show me a world leader who is more brave to challenge views and call out people on contradictions?
so is the argument here "it's cool for Ahmadinejad to ? his own people because other world leaders do the same?"one_manshow wrote: »Show me a leader who doesn't ? his people? -
Mr. Obama. tell us how two planes hit a building each, and three buildings collapsed in the same way?
1,4 million people killed in Iraq, but when dropping the Z(ion) word during a recent speech held at UN, 23 nations walked out the UN building.
Ahmadinejad new Boogy man, Obama aint a fan,
but when ? hits the fan(nff)
You'll curse Obama as you did Osama.
Shame on you once, twice
Bush said in year 01
Guess who won.
I'm kidding, I hope Us policies stop, I hope more people would wake up, and see what's going on, cause it aint good.
Beyonce, Gaga poioning dudes, and it even shows up on screen POISON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujWitEr-Ww
