What division has the best QB's?

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  • noirwar
    noirwar Members Posts: 514
    edited September 2011
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    Poster#19 wrote: »
    I wanna say the nfc south, but I gotta go with the nfc east. I feel like Romo is better than Freeman, and I would take Mike Vick on my squad before I would Matt Ryan, even with all that bitchassness that Vick showed after the game, and Brees and Manning both led their teams to superbowl so they almost cancel each other out, but Brees is the overall better qb. Cam hasn't done enough for me to say that he's better than Grossman at this point, so I gotta give the edge to Grossman. That's my assesment of that there topic.
    Very Convincing argument here.
    I will say that I still like the leadership talent and potential of the NFC South.

    Tony Romo has hit his ceiling
    Grossman...is overstuffed scarecrow under center
    Vick has a target on his back
    Eli... I'm done with you too

    Cam Newton... I see you youngin
    Matty Ice... You need to do more and you have a chance to
    J. Free... Lose that LMAO ? fro and I may find some respect for you. Your game is solid on the other hand.
    Drew Brees is the Steve Nash of the NFL with a Ring
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  • Just2C
    Just2C Members Posts: 931 ✭✭
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    b*braze wrote: »
    tom brady aint THAT good

    the question is about divisions not one player. and on a overall bases I say its the AFC East. they have the better overall group of QB's as compared to the other divisions.


    But yeah I do agree with you. I bet if you take Tom Brady out of that system in N.E. he doesnt perform as well.
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  • PanchoYoSancho
    PanchoYoSancho Members Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just2C wrote: »
    the question is about divisions not one player. and on a overall bases I say its the AFC. they have the better overall group of QB's as compared to the other divisions.


    But yeah I do agree with you. I bet if you take Tom Brady out of that system in N.E. he doesnt perform as well.
    How can you say AFC East tho?


    You'd make more sense saying AFC South since Manning = Brady, and Schaub is better than anyone else in the AFC East.
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  • Just2C
    Just2C Members Posts: 931 ✭✭
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    PanchoYoSancho wrote: »
    How can you say AFC East tho?


    You'd make more sense saying AFC South since Manning = Brady, and Schaub is better than anyone else in the AFC East.


    Look at the #1 post and the names given. If Manning was playing then of course the AFC South would be either 1 or 2

    And P. Manning is a better QB then Brady to me.
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  • coop9889
    coop9889 Members Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The AFC East???

    LMAO no way

    I'd ? around and give a tie between NFC South and East.... *flips coin*

    East
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  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
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    thatni99ajahmal wrote: »
    You can damn near make a case Brees>>>>>All the NFC East qbs combined on some real ? ..
    So i will say NFC South..

    O so 1 QB is better then 4 now huh
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  • Ibex
    Ibex Members Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    NFC East easily

    1. Grossman
    2. Vick
    3. Manning
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  • GettinLo
    GettinLo Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    NFC South easily...

    Current Pecking order in the South

    Brees > Freeman > Cam > Ryan

    Future pecking order

    Cam > Freeman > Brees > Ryan
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  • GettinLo
    GettinLo Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ibex wrote: »
    NFC East easily

    1. Grossman
    2. Vick
    3. Manning

    Yeah right...

    1. Romo
    2. Vick
    3. Manning
    4. Grossman

    ? Redskin fans
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  • dmv_use2thewait
    dmv_use2thewait Members Posts: 1,239 ✭✭
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    rap doctor wrote: »
    NFC North

    this^^^^^^
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  • truth spitter
    truth spitter Members Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭
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    When Seattle gets Luck and a few years past it will be the NFC West...Sam Bradford will be a superstar...Kevin Kolb will be a vet....and 49ers will still be the 49ers
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  • Just2C
    Just2C Members Posts: 931 ✭✭
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    numbaz...80's baby wrote: »
    dayum, Cam played 3 whole games and he's better than Matt Ryan?


    I know right? people already trying to name him one of the top QB's. He has 1 win so far. Give him time to do something noteworthy. If he takes Carolina to the playoffs this year then i'll give him his props but he ahs to show and prove first.
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  • b*braze
    b*braze Members Posts: 8,968 ✭✭✭
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    Just2C wrote: »
    the question is about divisions not one player. and on a overall bases I say its the AFC East. they have the better overall group of QB's as compared to the other divisions.


    But yeah I do agree with you. I bet if you take Tom Brady out of that system in N.E. he doesnt perform as well.


    thats why i said he aint that goo., where he lifting that entire division up over any other division. i dont see how you really think the afc east as a collection is better
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  • Just2C
    Just2C Members Posts: 931 ✭✭
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    b*braze wrote: »
    thats why i said he aint that goo., where he lifting that entire division up over any other division. i dont see how you really think the afc east as a collection is better


    Im basing this as of right now going on Week 4 this year the best performing QB's are in the AFC East. Brady is doing numbers. Fitzpatrick is definetly doing numbers. Sanchez is doing well. Not great but not bad either. Henne is the weak link but the performance of the other 3 make up for his lack.
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  • GettinLo
    GettinLo Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    numbaz...80's baby wrote: »
    dayum, Cam played 3 whole games and he's better than Matt Ryan?

    Matt Ryan was over-hyped from the door IMO... Freeman is better than him RIGHT NOW... Cam in 3 games on a horrible team is proving that he's got talent right now to compete at the highest levels and that his upside is that of an elite QB... I see Matt Ryan as a Joe Flacco... just manage the game and don't lose it QB whereas Cam and Josh are the types where you tell em "Go win the game for us"
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  • coop9889
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    Just2C wrote: »
    Im basing this as of right now going on Week 4 this year the best performing QB's are in the AFC East. Brady is doing numbers. Fitzpatrick is definetly doing numbers. Sanchez is doing well. Not great but not bad either. Henne is the weak link but the performance of the other 3 make up for his lack.

    So by going off that logic, you probably think the Bills, Lions, and Packers are the best 3 teams in the league huh.

    You prolly think Cam Newton is the 3rd best QB in the league huh
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  • R.D.
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    edited September 2011
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    How is the NFC south better than the North
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  • coop9889
    coop9889 Members Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rap doctor wrote: »
    How is the NFC south better than the North

    1st best: Brees = Rodgers

    2nd: Ryan >= Stafford

    3rd: Freeman > Cutler

    4th: Cam > Mcnabb
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  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
    edited September 2011
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    So yall just gonna let all these Falcon groupies take over the poll?
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  • Darius
    Darius Members Posts: 22,649 ✭✭✭✭
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    its the NFC south. and its not even close. It was the NFC South last year, despite having jimmy clausen...and now with Newton, the NFC South is yet again the best qb division in football
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  • GettinLo
    GettinLo Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    numbaz...80's baby wrote: »
    That's a reasonable opinion. I don't agree with it but it's reasonable.


    Cam does have talent but like someone said earlier, give him some more time. You can't compare someone's entire career to sum1 w/ just 3 games. There is a very strong possibility that he has the potential to be better than Matt Ryan but not right now.

    Through the 1st 3 games of the season Cam has as many wins as Matt with a worse team... and a higher QB rating (ranked 17th, Ryan 24th) and has led his team to a comeback victory... To me that screams that right now, emphasizing right now... he's playing better that Ryan. I think Ryan is at or near his peak while Cam is still learning on the job and performing better than half of the starting QB's in the league, right now.... Can/will he come back to earth and play like a rookie this year, I believe he will, but forthe time being, today, I think that Cam's the better QB. If he's on the Falcons right now, I think they'd be a more dynamic team than they currently are with Ryan.
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  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Right now it's looking like the NFC south has the best qbs
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  • R.D.
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    coop9889 wrote: »
    1st best: Brees = Rodgers

    2nd: Ryan >= Stafford

    3rd: Freeman > Cutler

    4th: Cam > Mcnabb

    Jay Cutler is better than Josh Freeman and Matt Ryan
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  • GettinLo
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    rap doctor wrote: »
    Jay Cutler is better than Josh Freeman and Matt Ryan

    What u smoking?
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  • kAjUn
    kAjUn Members Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    hlf wrote: »
    NFC EAST
    Eli Manning
    Mike Vick
    Tony ?
    Rex Grossman

    NFC SOUTH
    Drew Brees
    Matt Ryan
    Josh Freeman
    Cam Newton

    NFC NORTH
    Aaron Rodgers
    Jay Cutler
    Matt Stafford
    Donovan Mcnabb

    AFC EAST
    Tom Brady
    Mark Sanchez
    Chad Henne
    Ryan Fitzpatrick

    AFC NORTH
    Ben Rothlisberger
    Joe Flacco
    Colt Mccoy
    Andy Dalton

    AFC SOUTH
    Matt Schaub
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Blaine Gabbert
    Kerry Collins

    damn good question but i'm going to have to roll with nfc east
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