So this Lauryn Hill vs. Jean Grae debate is STILL an interesting one...
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Artistically I'm going with LH... far as lyrics and technical skills it's JG, but it is close and both fell the ? off
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They settled for 5 million?... How much did they write?
Not the slightest clue. Maybe some instrumentation they weren't credited/paid for. Definitely not no damn lyrics. -
soul rattler wrote: »You ? ?
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this Punisher guy is getting so mad right now XD
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Lies. And thanks for proving how mediocre LaurMAN is, ? .? ...die.
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LMAO @ soul rattler and pun1sher. Relax, it's just music.
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LMAO @ soul rattler and pun1sher. Relax, it's just music.
Aint nobody worried about that ? man...
Anyway, yeah... this is one of my fave Jean tracks tho. She went in. -
Jean Grae is like a lot of underground artist, can rap their ? off but have no ? presence about them. Lyricism is whip cream on the pie to me, but the pie (substance) is what i care about. Lauryn Hill is better at composing songs and conveying her message and it's good to listen to musically.
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What the hell is goin in in here?
For the 1 millionth time: people just b/c an artist is underground does NOT mean they are automatically 'on the low' better than their popular counterpart...
Geez...its human nature, not just music...same concept of how people will say Kelly Rowland looks better than Beyonce
? this 'I'm gon b different and root for the underdog' thread outta here.
Final Hour>>>Jean Grae, this thread, what you thought about before u made this thread, etc.
And yes, I'm heavily up on Jean grae...still bump Struggles and Brooklyn in my Mind now...she's sick...but she has nowhere near the depth of lauryn hill... -
punisher is outchea looking like genocide
Jean Grae = Insane Clown Posse -
What the hell is goin in in here?
For the 1 millionth time: people just b/c an artist is underground does NOT mean they are automatically 'on the low' better than their popular counterpart...
Geez...its human nature, not just music...same concept of how people will say Kelly Rowland looks better than Beyonce
? this 'I'm gon b different and root for the underdog' thread outta here.
Final Hour>>>Jean Grae, this thread, what you thought about before u made this thread, etc.
And yes, I'm heavily up on Jean grae...still bump Struggles and Brooklyn in my Mind now...she's sick...but she has nowhere near the depth of lauryn hill...
Better to root for the underdog than to root for the more popular counterpart because everyone else does.
Having a mind of your own >>>>> being a follower, a sheep, etc.soul rattler wrote: »punisher is outchea looking like genocide
Jean Grae = Insane Clown Posse
No one believes you, ? . -
Jean Grae is like a lot of underground artist, can rap their ? off but have no ? presence about them. Lyricism is whip cream on the pie to me, but the pie (substance) is what i care about. Lauryn Hill is better at composing songs and conveying her message and it's good to listen to musically.
so marketing has nothing to do with it?
Jean makes just as good songs as Lauryn do... Lauryn was just part of a movement...
you can be the best rapper/artist in the world... doesnt mean youre going to make it
Next we are going to say that Rhianna has more substance in her songs than Cassie...
but in reality they are the same person... -
*I.B. Blackman* wrote: »
Yo, there's a war in the mind, over territory
For the dominion
Who will dominate the opinion
Skisms and isms, keepin' us in forms of religion
Conformin' our vision
To the world churches decision
Trapped in a section
Submitted to committee election
Moral infection
Epedemic lies and deception
Insurrection
Of the highest possible order
Destortin' our tape recorders
From here and like under water
Beyond the borders
Fond of sin and disorder
Bound by the strategy
It's systematic deprivaty
Heavy as gravity
Head first in the cavity
Without a bottom
A fate worse than ?
What's got 'em
? of the spirits
Truth comes, we can't hear it
When you've been, programmed to fear it
I had a vision
I was fallin' in indescision
Apollin', callin' religion
Some program on television
How can dominant wisdom
Be recognized in the system
Of Anti-Christ, the majority rules
Intelligent fools
PhD's in illusion
Masters of mass confusion
Bachelors in past illusion
Now who you choosin'
The head or the tail
The bloodshed of male
Or confidance in the veil
Conferences of Yale
Discussin' doctrines of Baal
Causin' people to fail
Keepin' the third in jail
His word has nailed
Everything to the tree
Severing all of me from all that I used to be
Formless and void
Totally paranoid
Enjoy darkness as the Lord
Keepin' me from the sword
Blocked from mercy
Bitter than cerasee
Hungry and thirsty
For good meat we would eat
And still, dined at the table of deceit
How incomplete
From confrontation to retreat
We prolong the true enemies defeat
Destitute a necessity
Causin' desperation to get the best of me
Punishment 'til there was nothing left of me
Realizin' the unescapable death of me
No options in the valley of decision
The only doctrine, supernatural circumcision
Inwardly only water can purge the heart
From words, the fiery darts
Thrown by the workers of the arts
Iniquity, shapen in
There's no escapin' when
You're whole philosophy is paper thin
In vanity
The wide road is insanity
Could it be all of humanity?
Picture that
Scripture that
The origin of man's heart is black
How can we show up for
An invisible war
Preoccupied with a shadow, makin' love with a ?
Achin' in sores
Babylon, the great mystery
Mother of human history
System of social sorcery
Our present condition
Needs serious recognition
Where there's no repentance there can be no remission
And that sentence, more serious than Vietnam
The atom bomb, and Saddam, and Minister Farakkhan
What's goin' on, what's the priority to you
by what authority do we do
the majority hasn't a clue
We majored in curses
Search the chapters, check the verses
Recapture the land
Remove the mark from off of our hands
So we can stand
In agreement with his command
Everything else is damned
Let them with ears understand
Everything else is damned, let them with ears understand....
L. Boogie >>> ________.Jonas.dini wrote: »Artistically I'm going with LH... far as lyrics and technical skills it's JG, but it is close and both fell the ? offWhat the hell is goin in in here?
For the 1 millionth time: people just b/c an artist is underground does NOT mean they are automatically 'on the low' better than their popular counterpart...
Geez...its human nature, not just music...same concept of how people will say Kelly Rowland looks better than Beyonce
? this 'I'm gon b different and root for the underdog' thread outta here.
Final Hour>>>Jean Grae, this thread, what you thought about before u made this thread, etc.
And yes, I'm heavily up on Jean grae...still bump Struggles and Brooklyn in my Mind now...she's sick...but she has nowhere near the depth of lauryn hill...
Close thread. I agree with most of what was said, except to me Jean Grae is on the wack side. Good flow, ok lyrics, TERRIBLE delivery. I can't listen to one of her tracks all the way through. Like I said earlier, she needs to pass the other femcees before she challenges Lauryn. Grae not seeing Eve, Nicki and them. At least they have their delivery on point. -
baaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaa!so marketing has nothing to do with it?
Jean makes just as good songs as Lauryn do... Lauryn was just part of a movement...
you can be the best rapper/artist in the world... doesnt mean youre going to make it
Next we are going to say that Rhianna has more substance in her songs than Cassie...
but in reality they are the same person...
Lauryn Hill WAS the movement! Name me a song by Jean Grae that can match "I Just Want You Around" "Just Like Water" or "The Conquering Lion". -
Punisher, stop being so damn immature. You're acting like Jean Grae's talent level.
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soul rattler wrote: »baaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaa!
Lauryn Hill WAS the movement! Name me a song by Jean Grae that can match "I Just Want You Around" "Just Like Water" or "The Conquering Lion".
Name a song that match "My Story" -
Better to root for the underdog than to root for the more popular counterpart because everyone else does.
Having a mind of your own >>>>> being a follower, a sheep, etc.
You're being a "follower" for rooting for the "underdog" just because you think that makes you "cool" or "different". I'm 17 yrs old, few ppl my age listen to these artists, so there's nobody that i'm following. Think before you speak and learn how to make an arguement -
straightupsho wrote: »You're being a "follower" for rooting for the "underdog" just because you think that makes you "cool" or "different". I'm 17 yrs old, few ppl my age listen to these artists, so there's nobody that i'm following. Think before you speak and learn how to make an arguement
I was going to respond...in the typical, classic Punisher way...by being rude, and uncouth.
But you're 17...I would be the ? of all ? if I went in on a child... -
I was going to respond...in the typical, classic Punisher way...by being rude, and uncouth.
But you're 17...I would be the ? of all ? if I went in on a child...
Punisher is shook -
LMAO @ You subliminally ethering yourself:Better to root for the underdog than to root for the more popular counterpart because everyone else does.
Having a mind of your own >>>>> being a follower, a sheep, etc.
Punisher's inner monologue: No one believes you, ? .
Anyway, i would reply to you but this 17 yr old kid already said it best (smh @ u gettin sonned by a 17yr old):straightupsho wrote: »You're being a "follower" for rooting for the "underdog" just because you think that makes you "cool" or "different". I'm 17 yrs old, few ppl my age listen to these artists, so there's nobody that i'm following. Think before you speak and learn how to make an arguement -
LMAO @ You subliminally ethering yourself:
Anyway, i would reply to you but this 17 yr old kid already said it best (smh @ u gettin sonned by a 17yr old):
DEAD @ you not understanding the stupidity in that bolded statement of poor kid's post.
Being a follower is following everyone else. How the ? is someone a follower for rooting for the underdog, if everyone else is rooting for the popular counterpart? If I'm rooting for the underdog, while everyone else is rooting for LaurMAN, that would make me the anti-thesis to your sheep ? , ? .
And dead @ me getting sonned. It has NEVER happened, and NEVER will. That post he got for free...but if I'm being patronized, the next one he's gonna have to pay out for...and so are you, ? .
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Lauryn is waay better and it's not close. Even lyrically, flow, delivery, everything. Jean ain't ? with her. Jean is better than most girls technically, but she's nowhere near the legends like Lauryn Hill and Queen Latifah. Jean is like the grl version of Talib, except she's worse in everything, especially delivery and style(she sounds like eminem sometimes and that's HORRIBLE).
And lol at some dude comparing Joe and Nas. Joe Budden sucks at everything and in his prime could only do puchlines well. His songs suck. Saying Jean to Lauryn is like Joe to Nas is hating.......on Jean. Joe Budden to Nas is like Derek Fisher to Kobe in basketball -
DarkRaiden wrote: »Lauryn is waay better and it's not close. Even lyrically, flow, delivery, everything. Jean ain't ? with her. Jean is better than most girls technically, but she's nowhere near the legends like Lauryn Hill and Queen Latifah. Jean is like the grl version of Talib, except she's worse in everything, especially delivery and style(she sounds like eminem sometimes and that's HORRIBLE).
And lol at some dude comparing Joe and Nas. Joe Budden sucks at everything and in his prime could only do puchlines well. His songs suck. Saying Jean to Lauryn is like Joe to Nas is hating.......on Jean. Joe Budden to Nas is like Derek Fisher to Kobe in basketball
you crazy if Joe can't flow and have tech skills... stop that silliness
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Jean Grae>>> Lauryn
As MC's. Check Jean's extensive DOPE rap catalog, speaks for itself and if you ? can't realize that you are ignorant Hiphop fans.
On another note as an overall artist Lauryn is Doper. Her body of work has a deeper lasting effect than Jean's music, While Jean is one of the highest caliber female MC's her music just isn't as memorable as L-Boogie. Lauren can sing and ? with instrumentation unlike Jean so she def gets props for that and I enjoy it. Has nothing to do with her MC abilities.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mF7XYkAUk8
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