toomy's offical "claiming Russia to be a black country" thread
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If we visit Nubia, modern Ethiopia today, we can plainly see in the inhabitants their superiority to the common Egyptian type. The Barabra or Nile Nubians are on a footing of perfect equality in Egypt because that was their plane in ancient days. Baedecker describes them as strong, muscular, agricultural and more warlike and energetic than Egyptians. Keane says the Nubians excel in moral qualities. They are by his description obviously Negroid, very dark with full lips and dreamy eyes. They have the narrow heads which are the cranial formation of Ethiopia. Race may be told by shape of the skull far better than by color or feature, which are modified by climate. The members of the Tartar race have perfectly rounded skulls. The head of the Ethiopian races is very elongated. Europeans have an intermediate skull. The cranial formation of unmixed races never changes. Keane concludes by saying, “All Barbara have wooly hair with scant beards like the figures of Negroes on the walls of the Egyptian temples.” The race of the Old Empire approached closely to this type.
Strabo mentions the Nubians as a great race west of the Nile. They came originally from Kordofan, whence they emigrated two thousand years ago. They have rejected the name Nubas as it has become synonymous with slave. They call themselves Barabra, their ancient race name. Sanskrit historians call the Old Race of the Upper Nile Barabra. These Nubians have become slightly modified but are still plainly Negroid. They look like the Wawa on the Egyptian monuments. The Retu type number one was the ancient Egyptian, the Retu type number two was in feature an intermingling of the Ethiopian and Egyptian types. The Wawa were Cushites and the name occurs in the mural inscriptions five thousands years ago. Both people were much intermingled six thousand years ago. The faces of the Egyptians of the Old Monarchy are Ethiopian but as the ages went on they altered from the constant intermingling with Asiatic types. Also the intense furnace-like heat of Upper Egypt tended to change the features and darken the skin.
In the inscriptions relative to the campaigns of Pepi I, Negroes are represented as immediately adjoining the Egyptian frontier. This seems to perplex some authors. They had always been there. This was the Old Race of predynastic Egypt–the primitive Cushite type. This was the aboriginal race of Abyssinia. It was symbolized by the Great Sphinx and the marvelous face of Cheops. Take any book of Egyptian history containing authentic cuts and examine the faces of the first pharaohs, they are distinctively Ethiopian. The “Agu” of the monuments represented this aboriginal race. They were the ancestors of the Nubians. and were the ruling race of Egypt. Petrie in 1892 exhibited before the British Association, some skulls of the Third and Fourth Dynasties, showing distinct Negroid characteristics. They were dolichocephalic or long skulled. The findings of archaeology more and more reveal that Egypt was Cushite in her beginning and that Ethiopians were not a branch of the Japheth race in the sense that they are so represented in the average ethnological classifications of today -
Egyptians said that they and their religion had come from the land of Punt. Punt is generally accepted today to have been Somaliland south of Nubia. On the pictured plates at Deir-el-Baheri, the huts of the people of Punt were like the Toquls of the modern Sudanese, being built on piles approached by ladders. The birds were like a species common among the Somali. The fishes were not like those of Egypt. The wife of the king of Punt appears with a form like the Bongo women with exaggerated organs of maternity. This was a distinctive Ethiopian form. The king had the Cushite profile. The products carried by the wooly haired porters were ebony, piles of elephant tusks, all African products and trays of massive gold rings. Punt is mentioned in the inscriptions as a land of wonders. We find marvelous ruins in southeastern Africa that substantiate these reports. The inscription in the rocky valley of Hammat tells how 2000 B. C. a force gathered in the Thebaid to go on an expedition to Punt to bring back the products that made the costly incense of the ancients. The Stage Temple at Thebes showed in gorgeous pictures another expedition in 1600 B. C. We now know that Somaliland yielded the frankincense of ancient commerce, which was used in the ceremonials of all ancient kingdoms. Punt was called the “Holy Land” by the Egyptians.
In Egypt today, the most effective battalions are those commanded by black Nubians. In ancient ages the Egyptians followed the lead of the Ethiopian to battle and it is instinctive in them to do so today. Cushites were the backbone of the armies in the earliest ages. The Egyptian has no warlike qualities. It was the Cushite who was the head and brains of the foreign conquests. It was the Cushite element of the Old Empire that extended itself in foreign colonization eastward and westward around the world. Across Arabia and southwestern Asia, even to the central highlands, inscriptions and massive images in stone stand as voiceless witnesses that they were the commanders of the Egyptian armies and that the Ethiopian masses accompanied the soldiers as trusted allies and not as driven slaves. We must remember that in the early ages they were not a subject race but that their power as a great empire was at its zenith.
The Egyptian of today much changed from the ancient whom Herodotus called black, is content to live in a mud hut beside his beloved Nile. He is despised by the prouder Nubian, who saves his earnings to buy a home and piece of ground in his native Ethiopia. Reclus tells us that the dislike between Egyptians and Nubians is carried to such a great extent that the Nubians even in Egypt will not marry an Egyptian woman and that he refuses his daughter in marriage to the Egyptian and Arab. This could have come down alone front an age-old consciousness of superiority. He knows the proud traditions of his race. In books careless of ethnography, we find the Nubian classed with Semitic stock. They have no affinities at all with this race. Nubians are never able to speak the Arabic tongues gramatically. Nubian women are seldom seen in Egypt. They are the most faithful to the manners and customs of the Old Race. The Egyptian of today makes
little showings of ambition or the spirit for great deeds. He squanders his earnings upon trinkets and seems content in the same mud hovel in which the masses of Egyptians primitively lived.
Prichard recognizes two branches of the Nubians, the Nubians of the Nile and those of the Red Sea. In the age of Herodotus, the countries known as Nubia and Senaar were occupied by two different races, one of which he includes under the name Ethiopian; the other was a pastorial race of Semitic decent which led a migratory life. This distinction continues to the present day. The Red Sea nomadic tribes are extremely savage and inhospitable. The Nile Nubas or Barabra are the original Ethiopians. They are agricultural and have the old Hamitic traits. They plant date trees and set up wheels for irrigation. These are the Ethiopians mentioned in chronicles as possessing war chariots. Their allies were the Libyans. Semites at that age of the world had no possession of iron vehicles. Heeren says “that the ancestors of these Ethiopians had long lived in cities and had erected magnificent temples and edifices, that they possessed law and government, and that the fame of their progress in knowledge and the social arts had spread in the earliest ages to a considerable part of the world.”
Maurice, that reliable authority on ancient remains, declares, “The ancient Ethiopians were the architectural giants of the past. When the daring Cushite genius was in the full career of its glory, it was the peculiar delight of this enterprising race to ? stupendous edifices, excavate long subterranean passages in the living rock, form vast lakes and extend over the hollows of adjoining mountains magnificent arches for aqueducts and bridges. It was they who built the tower of Babel or Belus and raised the pyramids or Egypt; it was they who formed the grottoes near the Nile and scooped the caverns of Salsette end Elephante. (These latter are wonders of Hindu architecture.) Their skill in mechanical powers astonishes posterity, who are unable to conceive by what means stones thirty, forty and even sixty feet in length from twelve to twenty in depth could ever be raised to the point of elevation at which they are seen in the ruined temples of Belbec and Thebais. Those comprising the pagodas of India are scarcely less wonderful in point of elevation and magnitude.” (Maurice’s Ancient History of Hindustan.) -
Here is two Ancient Egyptian statues of King Tut and a photo of his mummy clearly looking ? in appearance.
Now here below is a WESTERN based so called scientific image of how King Tut looked.
CLEARLY THE IMAGE BELOW FROM CAUCASIAN SCIENTIST LOOKS CAUCASOID AND THE IMAGE ABOVE FROM EGYPTIANS THEMSELVES LOOKS ? .
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So the Ancient Egyptians were Caucasoid right young_ice?
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what makes black scientists anymore credible?
Modern black Nubians are mixed caucosoids due to arab influence. If you support Diop's claim here then you acknowledge that the Egyptians are at least mixed race and you deny them being full blown negroid.
The antropologist I posted included white people so what do u mean?
The Egyptian people ORIGINATED as a pure ? people and were not by any means of Caucasian descent. As I said before they are of the same lineage as all other native born Africans. Why do you deny what you see what your eyes? -
what makes black scientists anymore credible?
Modern black Nubians are mixed caucosoids due to arab influence. If you support Diop's claim here then you acknowledge that the Egyptians are at least mixed race and you deny them being full blown negroid.
stop avoiding ? you heathen
Anthropologist, Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820),spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus' discovery when he said:
The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it's original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of it's original mold. We can even state as a general principle that the face (referring to The Sphinx) is a kind of monument able, in many cases, to attest to or shed light on historical evidence on the origins of the people."
The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skin prompted Volney to make the following statement:
"What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech." -
So the Ancient Egyptians were Caucasoid right young_ice?
this drawing below comes from Europeans that depict the ? queen above as being caucasian even tho the evidence above denies this possibility.
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what makes black scientists anymore credible?
Modern black Nubians are mixed caucosoids due to arab influence. If you support Diop's claim here then you acknowledge that the Egyptians are at least mixed race and you deny them being full blown negroid.
Here is another Ancient Egyptian Caucasoid right?
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If ancient egyptians had features akin to modern nubians, and modern nubians are not pure negroids and have caucasoid-esque skeletal structure, then ancient egyptians had features that were also caucasoid-esque.
Diop proves himself wrong in his own thesis. That's why it's never been accepted. It doesn't follow logically.
Why do you keep AVOIDING all the ? Ancient Egyptian images I am posting?
Lol I posted more Caucasoids for you...
VS.
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stillmatic_01 wrote: »Thread starter is trying to claim that a country that is 98% white today was once "Black". It doesn't get anymore ridiculous than this.
This thread is straight comedy.
Clearly there isn't alot of 'Black' looking people in Russia today but people like Rurik were biracial his father was Black his brothers were Bi-racial. A fair amount of people in Russia's past were Black. Atleast from my point of view. I did image searches for about 10 of the people depicted in the monuments at that link below and some seemed Black to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_of_Russia
Also there are clearly Black people depicted on the walls of Russian Eastern Orthodox Churches.
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i thought upper egypt had dark nubians and lower egypt had the egyptians mixed with arabs and greeks, idk
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Posting pictures of modern egyptians and saying they are ancient egyptians is EQUIVALENT of me posting picutres of modern caucasians american and saying they are native americans.
Clearly you don't know Egyptian history when the Arabs INVADED Egypt.
How about you post some Ancient Egyptian images showing these same people on the pyramid walls?
I showed you all types of Negros on the walls and all your racist ass could do was post an image of an Arab living in Egypt who is NOT descended from the Ancient Egyptians... Which is why they have NO clue how to read the hiroglyphics or how and why the pyramids were built. -
The ancient egyptians do not differ from modern egyptians
thats very bold statement homie -
The ancient egyptians do not differ from modern egyptians
gtfoh....nothing about that is historically or biologically accurate -
what you ARE is someone who's not man enough to answer an actual question. here in comes again, should you happen to grow a pair:i am the descendant of the ancient kings & queens... the powers that be got fools like you brainwashed.
"if you're aware that Caucasoids DO have varying features... how does saying that non-Caucasoids have varying features prove someone can have no Caucasoid descent? telling me that Egyptians are of African descent does not address that question." -
what you ARE is someone who's not man enough to answer an actual question. here in comes again, should you happen to grow a pair:
"if you're aware that Caucasoids DO have varying features... how does saying that non-Caucasoids have varying features prove someone can have no Caucasoid descent? telling me that Egyptians are of African descent does not address that question."
What you don't understand is that Caucasoid NEVER was an Ancient Egyptian lineage of people so that automatically VOIDS your question.
as far as varying features of Caucasoids you are correct they also come in Neanderthal.
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gtfoh....nothing about that is historically or biologically accurate
Black American Howard University Professor S.O.Y. Keita disagrees with you. Go to youtube and watch his "Bio-cultural origins of Ancient Egyptians" series. He spells it out who the Ancient Egyptians descendents are: Berbers, Copts, Abyssinians, Somalis, etc. ALL CAUCASOID/CAUCASIAN -
Haploid blood tests and analysis of skeletal structure support it.
beenwize is still cowering from Janklow's very simple question
These guys your arguing with don't even know what haplogroups they belong to. This is why they are taking photos and juxtaposing them in a pathetic attempt to prove racial affinity between unrelated peoples -
stillmatic_01 wrote: »Black American Howard University Professor S.O.Y. Keita disagrees with you. Go to youtube and watch his "Bio-cultural origins of Ancient Egyptians" series. He spells it out who the Ancient Egyptians descendents are: Berbers, Copts, Abyssinians, Somalis, etc. ALL CAUCASOID/CAUCASIAN
Listen demon don't nobody care about what your lying scientist got to say THE EYES NEVER LIE and the spirit bears witness that they are negroid people... You see these BLACK negroid people all over the pyramids now you want to say they are black caucasians with wooly hair and ? features. You think we gon listen to the same scientist that put fluoride (rat poison) in tap water? the same scientist that vaccinate people with poison at birth? I posted your ancestors a few post up take a look.
Take a look at this video fool.
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stillmatic_01 wrote: »These guys your arguing with don't even know what haplogroups they belong to. This is why they are taking photos and juxtaposing them in a pathetic attempt to prove racial affinity between unrelated peoples
This explains it all right here...
The Destruction of Black Civilization
1. "Ignore or refuse to publish any facts of African history" that would not support
their racial theories.
2. "Create a religious and 'scientific' doctrine" to ease the white conscience for
oppressing and enslaving African people.
3. "Flood the world with hastily thrown together African 'histories'" that contain
European perspectives only.
4. "Start renaming people and places. Replace African names of persons, places, and
things with Arabic and European names." This will disguise their true black identity.
5. Change the criteria for defining race. For example, one drop of ? blood in
America makes you a ? , no matter how light your skin. When reporting ancient
history, reverse the standard. Make one drop of white blood render someone a
Caucasian no matter how dark the skin.(Test this criteria during the
"riding-at-the-back-of the-bus" era of the South during the 1940s in the USA. Be
assured that any of the Pharaoh's of Egypt, especially up to and including the 25th
Dynasty, would have been required to sit at the back of the bus.)
6. When black participation in civilization is so obvious your best schemes can't
hide it, find a way to attribute the success to outside white influence.
7. When all the ancient historians contradict your theory, seek to discredit them. -
They don't get published because they are fallacious and illogical and do not hold any truth.
What doctrine might this be and how would it go about easing the minds of white people?
The same exact doctrine you are claiming that says Ancient Egyptians were Caucasian by looking at a FALSE fabricated haplogroup.
Have you personally done any DNA testing?
Show who is doing this and when they did it.
Your demonic government has been doing this for hundreds of years. And if you listen to this youtube video you will have an ADMITTED example by your own white people.Are you admitting that Ancient Egyptians were not full negroid and were mixed hybrids, much like the modern Egyptians?
Here is an example of an Ancient Egyptian ? tell me is this Caucasian or ? or do you prefer a DNA test?
THIS IS A NEGROID!If the evidence was as clear cut as you say it is we would be incapable of denying it or bending the truth.
Well the only people denying the obvious truth is neanderthal parasites such as yourself that wish to steal ancient black civilization becuz you don't have one of your own. You are not nor have you have been indigenous african people like
the Ancient Egyptians... You are a mutant albino.
This is YOUR ancestor below... STOP trying to steal Ancient ? Heritage!!
THIS IS A CAUCASOID!!! DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? -
You're saying the laws of the universe that create the scientific theories are meant to ease the conscience of white people? Elaborate this. I'm dying to know how you've drawn such an irrational conslusion..
So the laws of the universe must also be telling scientist to pour loads of fluoride (rat poison) in tap water as well?
tell me I am dying to know this.No i have not. Have you personally seen an Ancient Egyptian? No you haven't. You're only going by photos provided to you by others. Your evidence is as flimsy as cardboard condo.
What do you mean I haven't seen an Ancient Egyptian when they are all over Africa and they are my lineage. The Ancient Egyptians are the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow just as you will always be a mutant albino. This has to be one of the most foolish questions someone has ever asked.
So obviously you never seen a ? that looked like this is what you are saying?
The Canadian government has been doing this for years? Prove it. Give me some clear cut evidence.
As for that youtube video, i refuse to watch a video about Egypt made by someone who is incapable of properly spelling Sphinx .
You refuse to watch a video where your own people will expose the lies of your people? The people speaking in the video are NOT the same people that uploaded this to youtube so you can listen to it but I see you are too much of a demon to do that.You can be a ? and not be a negroid. All you can tell about him from that picture is that he is dark skin and has large lips and a celestial nose. He is dark skin, but he is not necessarily a negroid. .
oh yea that's true you can have a whole civilization of negros but they are really caucasoids. Lmao gtfoh
You still don't understand the purpose you were created on this earth I see? you should know becuz you are playing the role very well of a devil incarnate.
As I have said b4 this is your ancestor BELOW... This is a true CAUCASOID cave dwelling neanderthal! -
please read the question again, because i have stated --and as the question states-- telling me whether or not Egyptians are of African descent does NOT address the question.What you don't understand is that Caucasoid NEVER was an Ancient Egyptian lineage of people so that automatically VOIDS your question.
"if you're aware that Caucasoids DO have varying features... how does saying that non-Caucasoids have varying features prove someone can have no Caucasoid descent? telling me that Egyptians are of African descent does not address that question."
however, we HAVE confirmed that you remain less than a man as of 12.27. good to know! -
The egyptians started off as a mix of black caucasoids and black negroids later arabs and other non black africans immigrated and mixed with the people later on after that egypt was invaded and more non blacks moved in thus you have what egypt looks like today.
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Listen demon don't nobody care about what your lying scientist got to say THE EYES NEVER LIE and the spirit bears witness that they are negroid people... You see these BLACK negroid people all over the pyramids now you want to say they are black caucasians with wooly hair and ? features. You think we gon listen to the same scientist that put fluoride (rat poison) in tap water? the same scientist that vaccinate people with poison at birth? I posted your ancestors a few post up take a look.
Look, the Egyptians were not Negros. I already gave you the history of the word ? , the language in which it derives from and the people it was in reference to but you seemed to conveniently skip over that post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHqDXVBxF8
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