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Was this the Last TRUE Mainstream R&B Song?

The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
edited January 2012 in R&B & Alternatives

THIS THE LAST REAL SONG BOUT REAL WOMEN TO HIT THE AIRWAVES AND BE MAJORLY POPULAR. REAL TALK.
now it's completely different, and it wasn't even that long ago...

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  • focusfocus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Probably say We Belong Together by Mariah Carey.

    But I guess it depends on what you mean by "true mainstream R&B"

    She Got Her Own? I...guess? It was kinda big in the R&B world only...sort of?

    We Belong Together however was a purely R&B song that was HUGE across the board. The last of a dying breed.

  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    i can agree with that. but at the same time, when was the last time Mariah was looked at like an r&b singer?
  • focusfocus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    The Jamel wrote: »
    i can agree with that. but at the same time, when was the last time Mariah was looked at like an r&b singer?

    I think she has always been looked at as a POPular R&B singer.

  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    focus wrote: »
    I think she has always been looked at as a POPular R&B singer.

    touche'

    i ont know man, i think "she got her own" came out in 08 and we belong together came out in 05...
  • focusfocus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    The Jamel wrote: »
    touche'

    i ont know man, i think "she got her own" came out in 08 and we belong together came out in 05...

    Yea, I wouldnt consider "SGHO" as a "mainstream" R&B success. It was an R&B song that was only really semi big in the R&B world. Plus it had a Hip-Hop featured artist.

  • focusfocus The #1 Nigga, I Don't Need No Hype. Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    ..."Be Without You" by Mary J. Blige would another one. Huge huge megahit that was purely R&B. Also 2005.

  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    focus wrote: »
    ..."Be Without You" by Mary J. Blige would another one. Huge huge megahit that was purely R&B. Also 2005.

    yeah... i've always maintained that 05 was the year talented music died.
    but at the same time... i still feel SGHO is a damn good r&b track... and embodied the spirit of good r&b.
  • P-Dogg77P-Dogg77 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Lovecrimes is a hundred times better.
    Every hoe should have a picture of my dick on their wall.
  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    P-Dogg77 wrote: »
    Lovecrimes is a hundred times better.

    nigga i will stab you in the face, fuck outta here talmbout Frank Ocean. that shit aint singing... he talkin and stretching his words out...
  • Blue VirgoBlue Virgo Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    define "true mainstream r&b" for a sista
  • boat1580boat1580 Posts: 200
    edited December 2011
    hmm, i think the year 2000 was probably the last year that true talented r&b music died, but that's just my humble opinion
  • NothingButTheTruthNothingButTheTruth stew Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011

    ...........................
  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Blue Virgo wrote: »
    define "true mainstream r&b" for a sista

    remember back when R&B was equal parts: Smooth Beats, Smooth Lyrics and sung by some one with actual talent.

    Like Joe for example...
  • georgia boigeorgia boi Posts: 3,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011

    ...........................

    Co-sign.

    Before seeing this posted, I was about to say Monica's "Everything to Me"
  • R.D.R.D. Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Gtfo with this back in the day shit ! Aint no back in that day nigga !
  • Craig RobinsonCraig Robinson Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    When A Woman Loves was on the radio down here...
    tumblr_ly7t8zXjEG1qeknrqo1_500.jpg
  • booty-gif-dot-combooty-gif-dot-com Posts: 1,357 ✭✭
    edited December 2011
    it sounds like the phrase "mainstream" is code for What Black folks under 30 are listening too and not the reality of how all artist under the R&B umbrella are charting!

    Jill Scott has released 4 albums. the first one went PLATINUM the last 2 went gold and the current album debuted at #1 on the pop chart moving 125,000 the first week and its close to gold status now too. Maxwell Black Summers Night debuted at #1 on the pop charts too.. And thats not the R&B chart thats POP.. everybody! and hes released 4 albums ALL PLATINUM!!

    these type of artist are going gold and platinum in an era where no one is selling records and Name rappers are getting there projects shelved or pushed back from fear of a flop from there label!! but the artist like Max and Jill get labeled NEO SOUL by under 30 crowd and the conversation goes nowhere!

    For sake of arguments.. heres some stuff..

    2005 - Mary J Blige - Be Without #3 pop #1 R&B
    2005- Mariah - We Belong Together.. #1 pop #1 R&B
    2007 - Chris Brown - With You #2 pop #5 R&B
    2009 - Maxwell - Pretty Wings. #33 pop #1 R&B
    2009 - Maxwell - Bad Habit #74 pop #4 R&B

    I guess music is forever segarated by AGE these days and we dont have the true cross over star that unites old and young..

    Lauryn Hill couldve been it but she went crazy
    Dangelo couldve been it but he went crazy
    R Kelly is now in his 40's and forever tainted by Scandal
    Chris Brown couldve been it but post Riahanna beat down he became the bad guy and embraced the image and appealed to younger and lost any older following!
  • The DiddlerThe Diddler Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    it sounds like the phrase "mainstream" is code for What Black folks under 30 are listening too and not the reality of how all artist under the R&B umbrella are charting!

    Jill Scott has released 4 albums. the first one went PLATINUM the last 2 went gold and the current album debuted at #1 on the pop chart moving 125,000 the first week and its close to gold status now too. Maxwell Black Summers Night debuted at #1 on the pop charts too.. And thats not the R&B chart thats POP.. everybody! and hes released 4 albums ALL PLATINUM!!

    these type of artist are going gold and platinum in an era where no one is selling records and Name rappers are getting there projects shelved or pushed back from fear of a flop from there label!! but the artist like Max and Jill get labeled NEO SOUL by under 30 crowd and the conversation goes nowhere!

    For sake of arguments.. heres some stuff..

    2005 - Mary J Blige - Be Without #3 pop #1 R&B
    2005- Mariah - We Belong Together.. #1 pop #1 R&B
    2007 - Chris Brown - With You #2 pop #5 R&B
    2009 - Maxwell - Pretty Wings. #33 pop #1 R&B
    2009 - Maxwell - Bad Habit #74 pop #4 R&B


    I guess music is forever segarated by AGE these days and we dont have the true cross over star that unites old and young..

    Lauryn Hill couldve been it but she went crazy
    Dangelo couldve been it but he went crazy
    R Kelly is now in his 40's and forever tainted by Scandal
    Chris Brown couldve been it but post Riahanna beat down he became the bad guy and embraced the image and appealed to younger and lost any older following!

    i completely forgot about that album.
    damn. I bought that shit twice too...
  • P-Dogg77P-Dogg77 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    The Jamel wrote: »
    nigga i will stab you in the face, fuck outta here talmbout Frank Ocean. that shit aint singing... he talkin and stretching his words out...

    I will dislocate your arm like Nogueira nigga. Frank Ocean is the future of RnB and he way better than every fake ass copy before him . T-Pain , The Dream , Tyrese and whoever else tried to do RnB in the 00's were as disposable as garbage.
    Every hoe should have a picture of my dick on their wall.
  • Say WhatSay What Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Maxwell Pretty Wings had a good run
  • bignorm73bignorm73 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011

    ...........................

    These two. Both are great songs. Jill's song was more popular, and drove her album to #1 of Billboard.
  • blackrainblackrain Posts: 27,261 Regulator
    edited December 2011
    Mainstream? It'd probably be Chris Brown's "She Ain't You"...I don't know too may people who didn't like this damn song
  • garvgarv Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Monica and Keisha Cole -Trust

    or J Holiday- Bed.
  • booty-gif-dot-combooty-gif-dot-com Posts: 1,357 ✭✭
    edited December 2011
    blackrain wrote: »
    Mainstream? It'd probably be Chris Brown's "She Ain't You"...I don't know too may people who didn't like this damn song

    that would be me.. i dont like it!!

    Michael Jackson made the original HUMAN NATURE

    SWV (with MJ's blessing on the Free Willie Soundtrack) Did "Right Here" Human Nature remix sampling his original Tune from Thriller

    Now Chris is doing a remake of SWV who is doing a remake of Michael??

    if Chris was going to do a song dedicated to his idol Mike he should just do the Mike original in the first place! thats how i feel about it!

    MIKE 1983

    SWV 1993
  • bignorm73bignorm73 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭
    edited December 2011
    Mike Jack>>>SWV>>>CB
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