Is Thor top 5 D.O.A?
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Power wise, excluding the abstracts? Fought the Void to a standstill, and even snapped the Sentry's neck in the What if Skrull secret invasion.
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Never really got into Thor as a youngin. I kinda sorta read his title for a lil bit after Civil War when the real Thor came back to life. ? got mad @ Stark and practically destroyed his Iron Man suit and had poor Tony in his iron draws.
Never really knew Thor was sitting above 100 ton class power until about 2007. -
"Standstill" is overstating things a bit, but he did have a respectable showing vs the Void.
That said, he is treated as the most powerful hero on Marvel Earth more often than not (Hulk is either lower or higher depending on the circumstances). -
Of course he is.
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No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
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DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
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Reg Thor nowhere near top 5 in Marvel U. Rune King Thor would be more in contention. But u got peeps and entities like Hyperstorm, Archenemy, Shuma, Tyrant, Odin. Augmented characters like Mrrungo-Mu were able to pwn coalitions of heroes simultaneously.
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Yes.
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Yea...
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Nah Thor isnt top 5, Thor couldnt even comprehend what he was seeing when Dormamu when he saw Dormammu fighting Odin because his power was so much higher than Thor's
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At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
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Thor is top 5 if you're talking about elite top tiers, but there are several people more powerful than Thor
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Naw he is not..
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Only read the new thor comics. From issue 10, the shattered heroes. Hes not my fave char, look forward to new villains and what he will be capable of tho.
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DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
Odin, Zeus>Thanos,
Mephisto, Blackheart= or near = to Thanos,
Dr. Strange at times(when he was messing with Living Tribunal)>Thanos,
Franklin Richards=Galactus>Thanos
Dormammu=>thanos, etc.
Thor ain't touching Richards, Strange, Odin, or Zeus, but at full, Odin power he may be touching the rest, maybe.
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Dormammu gets so slept on, hes defeated Eternity and CREATED beings on the same level as Mephisto. Hes above skyfather level
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Thor's a beast but nah...Even if we take into account Rune King Thor (Disassembled arc, gained Odinpower, sacrificed his eyes for even more power, instapwn'd Mangog, decapitated Loki, defeated Those Who Sit Above in Shadow by cutting a string thus ending the cycle of Ragnarok. Mind you, he didn't fight Surtur, he actually went to Surtur and gave him the ok to march upon Asgard), he still would face heavy competition from these guys:
Classic Odin: transported Earth's entire population across space
When the Infinity Watch along with Silver Surfer and Thanos brought Thor (inflicted with Warrior Madness) to Odin, Odin proceeded to one shot Silver Surfer and got the better of Thanos in the ensuing fight.
Archenemy: Destroyed Nightmare's realm, destroyed Mephisto's realm (Mephisto had to be rescued by Magik), destroyed Sutur's realm (Muspelheim). In fact Mephisto had to team up with Dormammu, Magik, and the other rulers of the Splinter Realms to confront the Archenemy.
Agamotto: Stalemated Galactus in his realm
Sise-Neg: banished Shuma Gorath, all-powerful
Dr. Strange: Armed with his talismans and relics, basically held his own against Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet
Insane Genis Vell: Destroyed the 616 universe. nuff said
Disassembled Scarlet Witch: nuff said
Squirrel Girl: no explanation needed
Dormammu: slept on like what above posted wrote earlier
I'll try to think of more
Ps...people sleep on Zeus, thinking he some goofy version of Odin lol. He recently beat the brakes off the Hulk like the Hulk owed him money..plus the classic thrashing he gave the Avengers
Pss..peeps also sleep on this guy's power:
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DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
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DarkRaiden wrote: »DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
Odin, Zeus>Thanos,
Mephisto, Blackheart= or near = to Thanos,
Dr. Strange at times(when he was messing with Living Tribunal)>Thanos,
Franklin Richards=Galactus>Thanos
Dormammu=>thanos, etc.
Thor ain't touching Richards, Strange, Odin, or Zeus, but at full, Odin power he may be touching the rest, maybe.
Thanos has destroyed the universe...twice. Nobody on that list has done that. -
lmao...? ? squirrel girl.
thor is consistent and gets his respect, one of my favorites but sometimes marvel hoes out their most powerful.
For eg. I've seen thor get shot in the head with a bullet and get knocked out....wtf??
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If you're talking about the incident in Black Panther when Thor was hit by a sniper..i remember there being a huge uproard about that and the writer came in saying that the bullet used was made of vibranium..that Glads/Cannonball deal had to due with Gladiator's confidence being low during that fight...it was PIS but still
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DarkRaiden wrote: »DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
Odin, Zeus>Thanos,
Mephisto, Blackheart= or near = to Thanos,
Dr. Strange at times(when he was messing with Living Tribunal)>Thanos,
Franklin Richards=Galactus>Thanos
Dormammu=>thanos, etc.
Thor ain't touching Richards, Strange, Odin, or Zeus, but at full, Odin power he may be touching the rest, maybe.
Thanos has destroyed the universe...twice. Nobody on that list has done that.
Thanos didn't do that with his own power though and Franklin is more powerful than Galactus. Thanos isn't quite skyfather level in power so guys like Odin and Zeus are more powerful -
Squirrel girl can ? on the entire Asgardian pantheon. Fact.
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DarkRaiden wrote: »DarkRaiden wrote: »No, Dr. Strange under most circumstances, Odin, Zeus, Franklin Richards, a slew of other mutants, Blackheart, Mephisto, Doom at times, Thanos, Hulk at times, Silver Surfer at times, Phoenix at times(Phoenix force is the abstract), Dormammu, Umar, etc.
At full power Thor is more powerful than everbody you named aside from Thanos.
Odin, Zeus>Thanos,
Mephisto, Blackheart= or near = to Thanos,
Dr. Strange at times(when he was messing with Living Tribunal)>Thanos,
Franklin Richards=Galactus>Thanos
Dormammu=>thanos, etc.
Thor ain't touching Richards, Strange, Odin, or Zeus, but at full, Odin power he may be touching the rest, maybe.
Thanos has destroyed the universe...twice. Nobody on that list has done that.
Thanos didn't do that with his own power though and Franklin is more powerful than Galactus. Thanos isn't quite skyfather level in power so guys like Odin and Zeus are more powerful
What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE! -
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What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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What do you mean he didnt do it with his own power?? Thanos destroyed the Universe....he won....there is no other rebuttal.... he was the only person left...no Frank Richards, no Thor, No Living Tribunal, No Eternity, No Galactus...he won....TWICE![/quote]
I think what he meant was Thanos didn't do it without artifacts. As in if Thanos had to fight all of Earth's villains and heroes, the Celestials, Galactus, etc, without the Infinity Gauntlet, he would lose. Thanos briefly fought Galactus without any artifacts and although he got the first lick in, he still cried mercy at the end. Thanos didn't beat the Living Tribunal with the Infinity Gauntlet. Remember during that arc, that first Thanos killed half the population of the universe then took down that coalition of heroes & villains. Then he took down most of the cosmic abstracts before facing Eternity and usurping Eternity's position in the universe. Different from destroying a universe. The Living Tribunal is higher than the Infinity Gauntlet. It wasn't until Thanos attained the Heart of the Infinite(Universe) that he was able to defeat Eternity, Infinity, and the Living Tribunal. Even at that point, Thanos stated that an even higher power urged him to correct an imbalance in the multiverse and thus he reversed everything he did with the Heart of the Infinite. The being he was referring to is TOAA, who is top dog at Marvel. Remember there are quite a few beings in the Marvel's omniverse more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet but only one trumps the Heart of the Infinite. Adam Warlock proved deft at handling the Infinity Gauntlet and even when he pwned the cosmic abstracts like Thanos,he found out quick that Living Tribunal can easily nullify the Infinity Gauntlet.
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Thanos gained the artifacts through using his powers. Thanos's intellect, strategic manoeuvring, and his will. He is essentially Batman on a cosmic scale. He intended to destroy the universe...he did...he achieved his ultimate and final goal...of complete and utter ? over the universe.
That TOAA garbage is just Marvel's defacto "? " that they use to apease the religious types.
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But he didn't destroy the universe with the IG. U stated he destroyed the universe twice, which he did not do. He destroyed the universe once with the HotI. But then again, Reed Richards destroyed the universe with the Ultimate Nullifer (including Eternity) and recreated it without Abraxas as a threat. Morg, who's not the brightest bulb, managed to scheme his way to the Ultimate Nullifier also. Are you saying that Morg & Reed Richards > Eternity, Infinity, Etc? The Living Tribunal trumps the IG. Regardless of how anyone feels about TOAA, his position is canon. Also remember that the Infinity Gauntlet had no effect on Maelstrom when Maelstrom confronted Thanos with the IG (confirmed as canon too by Marvel's Official Handbook)
The Infinity Gauntlet is über powerful but there are some artifacts and characters more powerful than it, or at the very least unaffected by its effects.
