It's crazy how Jay's the only NY rapper that never fell off
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Even though I'm not a fan, I have to admire Jay's longevity. i can't think of a single ny rapper from the 90's that was really able to stand the test of time like Jay has. There's no shame in falling off; nothing lasts forever. But everyone else that came up in Hov's era fell off. Jay has stayed relevant and still selling a lot of records after 16 YEARS in the game. Damn. All the other NY dudes eventually drowned. Are there any rappers from the 90's that was really able to stand the test of time like Jay has? i can't think of any.
nas - can't even get a gold certification now. last album that went plat was streets disciple. that came out nearly a decade ago. fell off.
50 cent - irrelevant since 2007. singles flopped. so did his dvds, games, clothes, sneakers, and whatever the ? else he tries to sell. threw everything at ross and had ZERO effect. lost multiples beefs and battles to artists such as d-block, game, fat joe and now even ross. fell off hard. no-one really cares anymore.
ja rule - fell off even harder. aint been the same since 04 after NY turned their backs on him when he needed support. now in jail.
jadakiss - one of my fav rappers but his sales declined. 3 albums in 10 years? smarten up kiss
dmx - in his prime (98-99) X was easily as good as jay n nas. the ? ruined a great talent. fell off.
camron another 1 of my fav rappers but aint sold ? since crime pays. fell off.
busta rhymes - aint been relevant ? since touch it. fell off.
ghost and raekwon - aint really relevant. they might release good music but their sales are poor.
mobb deep - big mobb fan but they fell off too.
i know theres many more but i'll leave it there. i guess i just have to give jay his credit. no one else done it as big for as long. his business acumen is unrivalled.
nas - can't even get a gold certification now. last album that went plat was streets disciple. that came out nearly a decade ago. fell off.
50 cent - irrelevant since 2007. singles flopped. so did his dvds, games, clothes, sneakers, and whatever the ? else he tries to sell. threw everything at ross and had ZERO effect. lost multiples beefs and battles to artists such as d-block, game, fat joe and now even ross. fell off hard. no-one really cares anymore.
ja rule - fell off even harder. aint been the same since 04 after NY turned their backs on him when he needed support. now in jail.
jadakiss - one of my fav rappers but his sales declined. 3 albums in 10 years? smarten up kiss
dmx - in his prime (98-99) X was easily as good as jay n nas. the ? ruined a great talent. fell off.
camron another 1 of my fav rappers but aint sold ? since crime pays. fell off.
busta rhymes - aint been relevant ? since touch it. fell off.
ghost and raekwon - aint really relevant. they might release good music but their sales are poor.
mobb deep - big mobb fan but they fell off too.
i know theres many more but i'll leave it there. i guess i just have to give jay his credit. no one else done it as big for as long. his business acumen is unrivalled.
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anti-ny thread.... this should be good!
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If you're refering to 'record sales' as falling off.....you might be right...but when it comes to fallng off as far as emcee skills go....Jay Z been fell off.....Rakim, NAS, WU, O.C., and plenty of other 90's emcees still spitting fire....Jay Z is good at marketing and adapting to whats hot at the moment...
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Jay fell off musically maybe not popularity wise. But also he hasn't dropped a solo since 08 or 09 so let's see his numbers when he comes back.
Lyrically though he's on some ? lately. -
Are we discussing musically or sales? If we discussing sales foh with this industry ? could care less what ? buy or bump.
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This will be funny
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That's what happens when you have so many dickriders
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? record sales its the talent that counts, and jays main talent lately is jumping on kanyes back getting an easy ride, jay is one of the greatest but lately it seems like his main focus is making money and sucking your presidents ? while kanye makes the hits.
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Lol at jay falling off musically, I knew u dusty bacpackers would say this. American Gangster is right up there with any Jay album. WTT was a dope album.
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SMH...
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Lol at jay falling off musically, I knew u dusty bacpackers would say this. American Gangster is right up there with any Jay album. WTT was a dope album.
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where u from u ? ass ? . bring ur ? ass here and talk ? and see how long u last ?
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Black album Jay.>>>>European hov..American Gangster was 5 years ago alot can happen in 5 years blueprint 3 gabbage wtt very underwhelming.
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How is Jay jumping on Ye's back when Jay is a bigger artist sales wise. If anything Jay stuck his neck out for Ye when the world was ? on Ye for Taylor Swift.
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wait for it
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So yall gon act like Jay wasn't spitting on WTT
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Lol at AG being five years ago, but Yall count BP3 against him . Selective haters
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you ic cats are wired all ? up...jay is nice "period"
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? mad cuz good NY rappers still care about lyrics over club ? music. yall can have all that lean wit it type garbage. I will take lyrics and NY sounding production over that ? anytime.
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How is Jay jumping on Ye's back when Jay is a bigger artist sales wise. If anything Jay stuck his neck out for Ye when the world was ? on Ye for Taylor Swift.
Jay has gone stale music wise thats why he needs kanye, would the blueprint be a classic if kanye wasnt involved? ? no, jay is a public relations tool for your president these days, dressing up in tuxidos going to ? functions just to help the rich get richer.
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MikeydaGawd wrote: »So yall gon act like Jay wasn't spitting on WTT
yeah jay did good on that album im just in a bad mood lol
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The reason why jay has been more successful than them washed 90s ? is because he switched up hid sound and never limited himself to dusty boom nap back packers. ? likeNas marginalized their audience and pigeonholed themselves. That's why when Nas makes singles with Chris Brown, Kerry Hilson,etc itdoesnt work.
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Jaw Breaker wrote: »How is Jay jumping on Ye's back when Jay is a bigger artist sales wise. If anything Jay stuck his neck out for Ye when the world was ? on Ye for Taylor Swift.
Jay has gone stale music wise thats why he needs kanye, would the blueprint be a classic if kanye, just blaze, and bink wasnt involved? ? no, jay is a public relations tool for your president these days, dressing up in tuxidos going to ? functions just to help the rich get richer.
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Yeah jay did ok but Jay one of the best so he ain't gone never put out no complete garbage(except blueprint 3)but you figure them 2 putting out a album it should of been some of the best ? I ever heard and it's not even considered a classic album.
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He was smart enough to understand how the music "business" operates. And as far as still goin strong out there still on the radio and still widely heard by the people, he's the man. I aint stupid or lame enough to be a region hatin loser, just true.Those other Ny rappers aint heard. Unless you wanna search hard. But he is actually still popular.
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Popularity wise-no
Musically-yes
