You gotta respect Hyundai... they going riight for the 300C...

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  • Trollio
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  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The genesis is a nice ? car and if it had a foreign logo on it more people would cop. That concept is dope besides the rim
  • louis rich
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    looks like MBZ, infiniti and Lexus had a orgy and came out with this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXFG91zXHDU
  • CracceR
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    hyundai goin in a good direction imo
    they hired some ex audi and bmw design directors and it really shows
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  • rage
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    wait i thought the genisis was the spiritual successor to the tiburon...

    That's the Genesis Coupe, comes in a 2.0t and a 3.8 v6 which makes 348hp

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZTSsD69mok

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI6caYK8REY
  • konceptjones
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    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.
  • Lurker6
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    since when was the 300 the best 4door sedan tho..
  • rage
    rage Members Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.

    Uhhh...these are all RWD...

  • konceptjones
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    rage wrote: »
    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.

    Uhhh...these are all RWD...

    Bet. Then it makes sense.

    I, for one, am glad that RWD is making a strong comeback. The dark days of big ass/powerful ass engines in FWD cars may be over soon.
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  • rage
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    Sportscars are and should always be RWD.....hot hatches should always be FWD. The GenCoupe bodies the G37, and with the next gen will be taking on the Euros.
  • MzKB
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    that coupe is clean
  • rage
    rage Members Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2013
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    MzzKlapBak wrote: »
    that coupe is clean

    Yup,

    3.8 V6: 344hp on REGULAR Gas, 292lbs of torque
    0-60 in 5.2, plus it SOUNDS sick.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTdDP0Aai_c
  • lamontbdc
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    yea they done stepped their game up
  • konceptjones
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    abn562 wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.

    Uhhh...these are all RWD...

    Bet. Then it makes sense.

    I, for one, am glad that RWD is making a strong comeback. The dark days of big ass/powerful ass engines in FWD cars may be over soon.

    ? wtf? rwd coming back? where have you been thats always been here, unless your just looking at honda drag vids on youtube lol

    From the 80's to the early 00's, GM had been something like 95% FWD.
    The only cars Ford made that were RWD during the same era was the Mustang/Capri (until the Capri replacement came based on a FWD platform), Thunderbird/Cougar (until the 1999–2002 FWD Cougar), and the Crown Vic/Town Car/Grand Marquis triplets.
    Chrysler had only two RWD cars during this era: The Dodge Viper and the Plymouth Prowler.
    Honda has had ONE RWD car - the S2000.
    Mazda, same thing: The RX7, and later the RX8.
    Nissan had two platforms for RWD in America: The Silvia (Nissan S12 200SX, S13/14 240SX) and the ZX platform (300ZX).
    Toyota had some interesting RWD cars, but they were all converted to FWD during this time. The Celica and Supra started out as RWD (back when the Supra was the Celica Supra), then 86 hit and they were split into two models, the Celica becoming FWD and the Supra retaining it's RWD. The Corolla had a hot RWD coupe in the 80's, but was bastardized into a FWD joint as the decade wore on, and the Cressida was also RWD (IIRC).

    GM's most famous cars from the 70's and early 80's were turned into FWD cars during the late 80's (Monte Carlo, Regal, Grand Prix, Malibu, Impala, etc)

    At one point during the late 80's/early 90's GM was almost done with a replacement for the Camaro that was based on a FWD Opel. Only public outcry stopped it from being released.

    The FWD Ford Probe was supposed to be the replacement for the Fox platform Mustang. Again, only public outcry stopped this.

    The Dodge Viper was originally supposed to be based on Chrysler's ? FWD K-Car platform. When the public caught wind of it, they wrote a mountain of letters to Iacoca in protest.

    The Big 3 has pushed FWD on us and are now beginning to see the error of their ways.
  • blakfyahking
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    Hyundai really needs to stop being lazy and re-brand these luxury vehicles they trying to come out with

    they are going to make the same mistake that Mazda made in the 90s and end up ? up their identity


    a lot more customers would be willing to buy Hyundai's high end cars, but they can't get past Hyundai historic "cheap" label
  • rage
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    Hyundai really needs to stop being lazy and re-brand these luxury vehicles they trying to come out with

    they are going to make the same mistake that Mazda made in the 90s and end up ? up their identity


    a lot more customers would be willing to buy Hyundai's high end cars, but they can't get past Hyundai historic "cheap" label

    I dont think they need to set up a whole new dealer network and infrastructure for the brand. Just rebadge the vehicles as pure Genesis and set a separate area in the dealership just for the Genesis brand with exclusive sales people/tech etc. Hyundai's proposition right now is great value for dollar, incurring more expense would reduce that proposition.
  • wilberdmillz
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    rage wrote: »
    Hyundai really needs to stop being lazy and re-brand these luxury vehicles they trying to come out with

    they are going to make the same mistake that Mazda made in the 90s and end up ? up their identity


    a lot more customers would be willing to buy Hyundai's high end cars, but they can't get past Hyundai historic "cheap" label

    I dont think they need to set up a whole new dealer network and infrastructure for the brand. Just rebadge the vehicles as pure Genesis and set a separate area in the dealership just for the Genesis brand with exclusive sales people/tech etc. Hyundai's proposition right now is great value for dollar, incurring more expense would reduce that proposition.

    Kinda like Fiat is doing with SRT? I think it will work initially but once people realize its still Hyundai it won't matter. No matter what anyone says the new Viper is still a Dodge. As said it's all about marketing though.
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    Hyundai really needs to stop being lazy and re-brand these luxury vehicles they trying to come out with

    they are going to make the same mistake that Mazda made in the 90s and end up ? up their identity


    a lot more customers would be willing to buy Hyundai's high end cars, but they can't get past Hyundai historic "cheap" label

    I dont think they need to set up a whole new dealer network and infrastructure for the brand. Just rebadge the vehicles as pure Genesis and set a separate area in the dealership just for the Genesis brand with exclusive sales people/tech etc. Hyundai's proposition right now is great value for dollar, incurring more expense would reduce that proposition.

    Kinda like Fiat is doing with SRT? I think it will work initially but once people realize its still Hyundai it won't matter. No matter what anyone says the new Viper is still a Dodge. As said it's all about marketing though.

    Lexus was (and is still a Toyota) at one point. Hyundai and Kia are both rapidly shedding the budget stigma. Both of them keep having record sales months, quarters and years. I don't think the old school prejudices are going to be a problem within the next 5 to 10 years. German cars are getting exposed for being just as unreliable if not MORE unreliable than American, Asian cars. There was a reliability study done by a german magazine that took a survey of over 200,000 cars and owners and Hyundai came out on top, beating out Benz, Bimmer, Audi etc.
  • Aristo_V300
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    Hyundai been stepped they game up... I'd buy a Genesis if there weren't other cars I wanted more.
  • GettinLo
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    rage wrote: »
    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.

    Uhhh...these are all RWD...

    Bet. Then it makes sense.

    I, for one, am glad that RWD is making a strong comeback. The dark days of big ass/powerful ass engines in FWD cars may be over soon.

    Someone PLEASE tell the geniuses @ Acura this
  • rage
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    aone415 wrote: »
    rage wrote: »
    FWD???

    Remember kids: V8 + FWD = No Bueno.

    Uhhh...these are all RWD...

    Bet. Then it makes sense.

    I, for one, am glad that RWD is making a strong comeback. The dark days of big ass/powerful ass engines in FWD cars may be over soon.

    Someone PLEASE tell the geniuses @ Honda this

    Fixed....the ? really need to get on the RWD bandwagon and quickly. For Honda not to have ONE RWD platform in the NA market is disgusting. The Accord Coupe should be RWD and there should be a new CL based on that platform.