The Creation And Fall Of Man

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DIVINELY PREPARED BY THE NOBLE PROPHET DREW ALI

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By the guiding of his father ? , Allah; the great ? of the universe. To redeem man from his sinful and fallen stage of humanity back to the highest plane of life with his father ? , Allah.

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    Chapter I

    The Creation And Fall Of Man



    "Time never was when man was not." If life of man at any time began, a time would come when it would end. "The thoughts of Allah cannot be circumscribed. No finite mind can comprehend things infinite. All finite things are subject unto change. All finite things will cease to be because there was a time when they were not." The bodies and the souls of men are finite things, and they will change, yea, from the finite point of view the time will come when they will be no more. "But man himself is not the body, nor the soul; he is a spirit and a part of Allah." Creative Fate gave to man, to spirit-man, a soul that he might function on the plane of soul; gave him a body of the flesh, that he might function on the plane of things made manifest. Why did creative Fate give to spirit-man a soul that he might function on the plane of soul? Why did creative Fate give to soul a body of the flesh that he might function on the plane of things that are made manifest?

    ["Hear, now, ye worlds, dominions, powers and thrones!]

    Hear, mow, ye cherubim, ye seraphim, ye angels and ye men!

    "Hear, now, oh protoplast, and earth, and plant and beast!

    "Hear, now, ye creeping things of earth, ye fish that swim, ye birds that fly!

    "Hear, now, ye winds that blow, ye thunders and ye lightnings of the sky!

    "Hear, now, ye spirits of the fire, of water, earth, and air!

    "Hear, now, oh everything that is, or was, or evermore will be, for Wisdom speaks from out of the highest plane of spirit life:

    "Man is a thought of Allah; all thoughts of Allah are infinite; they are not measured up by time, for things that are concerned with time, begin and end.

    "The thoughts of Allah are the everlasting of the past unto the never ending days to come. And so is man, the spirit-man.

    "But man like every other thought of Allah, was but a seed, a seed that held within itself the potencies of Allah, just as the seed of any plant of earth holds deep within itself the attributes of every part of that especial plant.

    "So spirit-man, as seed of Allah held deep within himself the attributes of every part of ? .

    "Now, seed are perfect, yea, as perfect as the source from which they come; but they are not unfolded into life made manifest. The child is as perfect as the mother is. So man, the seed, must be deep planted in a soil that he might grow, unfold, as does the bud unfold to show the flower. The human seed that came forth from the heart of Allah was full ordained to be the Lord of plane of soul, and of the plane of things made manifest. So Allah, the husbandman of every thing that is, threw forth this human seed into the soil of soul; it grew apace, and man became a living soul; and he became the Lord of all the kingdom of the soul. Hark, now, let every creature hear, the plane of soul is but the ether of the spirit plane vibrating not so fast, and in the slower rhythm of this plane the essences of life are manifest; the perfumes and the odors, the true sensations and the all of love are manifest.

    "And these soul attributes become a body beautiful. A multitude of lessons man must learn upon the plane of soul; and here he tarries many ages until his lessons are all learned. Upon the boundary of the plane of soul, the ether began to vibrate slower still and then the essences took on a final garb; the perfumes and the odors and the true sensations and the all of love were clothed in flesh; and man was clothed in flesh. Perfected man must pass through all the ways of life, and so a carnal nature was full manifest, a nature that sprang forth from fleshly things. Without a foe a soldier never knows his strength, and thought must be developed by the exercise of strength. And so this carnal nature soon became a foe that man must fight, that he might be the strength of Allah made manifest. Let every living thing stand still and hear! Man is the Lord of all the plane of manifest, of protoplast, of mineral, of plant, of beast, but he gave up his birthrights, just to gratify his lower self. But man will regain his lost estate, his heritage; but he must do it in a conflict that cannot be told in words. Yea, he must suffer trials and temptations manifold; but let him know that cherubim and seraphim that rule the stations of the sun and spirit of the mighty Allah who rule the solar stars are his protectors and his guide, and they will lead to victory. Man will be fully saved, redeemed, perfected by the things he suffers on the plane of flesh, and on the plane of soul. When man has conquered carnal things his garb of flesh will then have served its purpose well and it will fall; will be no more.

    "Then he will stand untrammeled on the plane of soul where he must full complete his victories. Unnumbered foes will stand before man upon the plane of soul; these he must overcome, yea, overcome them every one. Thus hope will ever be his beacon light; there is no failure for the human soul, for Allah is leading on and victory is sure.

    "Man cannot die; the spirit-man is one with Allah, and while Allah lives man cannot die. When man has conquered every foe upon the plane of soul the seed will have full opened out, will have unfolded in the Holy Breath. The garb of soul will then have served its purpose well, and man will need it never more, and it will pass and be no more and man will then attain unto the blessedness of perfectness and be at one with Allah."
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    DIVINELY PREPARED BY THE NOBLE PROPHET DREW ALI

    Surah 33:40
    Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.

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    THE END OF TIME AND THE FULFILLING OF THE PROPHESIES


    1. The last Prophet in these days is Noble Drew Ali, who was prepared divinely in due time by Allah to redeem men from their sinful ways; and to warn them of the great wrath which is sure to come upon the earth.

    2. John the Baptist was the forerunner of Jesus in those days, to warn and stir up the nation and prepare them to receive the divine creed which was to be taught by Jesus.

    3. In these modern days there came a forerunner of Jesus, who was divinely prepared by the great ? -Allah and his name is Marcus Garvey, who did teach and warn the nations of the earth to prepare to meet the coming Prophet; who was to bring the true and divine Creed of Islam, and his name is Noble Drew Ali who was prepared and sent to this earth by Allah, to teach the old time religion and the everlasting gospel to the sons of men. That every nation shall and must worship under their own vine and fig tree, and return to their own and be one with their Father ? -Allah.

  • Bodhi
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    How does one distinguish a true prophet from a false prophet?
  • Drew_Ali
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    We are trying to uplift fallen humanity. Come and link yourselves with the families of nations. We honor all the true and divine prophets.........


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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    We are trying to uplift fallen humanity.


    In what way does one uplift? And in what way is humanity "fallen"? Fallen from what?
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    Know Thyself And Thy Father ? Allah



    The genealogy of Jesus with eighteen years of the events, life works and teachings in India, Europe and Africa. These events occurred before He was thirty years of age. These secret lessons are for all of those who love Jesus and desire to know about his life works and teachings.

    Dear readers, do not falsely use these lessons. They are for good, peace and happiness for all those that love Jesus.

    Dear mothers, teach these lessons to your little ones, that they may learn to love instead of hate.

    Dear fathers, by these lessons you can set your house in order and your children will learn to love instead of hate.

    The lessons of this pamphlet are not for sale, but for the sake of humanity, as I am a prophet and the servant is worthy of his hire, you can recieve this pamphlet at expense. The reason these lessons have not been known is because the Moslems of India, Egypt and Palestine had these secrets and kept them back from the outside world, and when the time appointed by Allah they loosened the keys and freed the secrets, and for the first time in ages have these secrets been delivered in the hands of the Moslems of America. All authority and rights of publishing of this pamphlet of 1927.



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    Chapter II
    Education of Mary and Elizabeth in Zoan, Egypt




    1. The son of Herod, Archelaus, reigned in Jerusalem. He was a selfish, cruel king; he put to death all those who did not honor him.

    2. He called in council all the wisest men and asked about the infant claimant to his throne.

    3. The council said that John and Jesus both were dead; then he was satisfied.

    4. Now Joseph, Mary and their son were down in Egypt in Zoan, and John was with his mother in the Judean Hills.

    5. Elihu and Salome sent messengers in haste to find Elizabeth and John. They found them, they brought them to Zoan.

    6. Now Mary and Elizabeth were marveling much because of their deliverance.

    7. Elihu said, "It is not strange; there are no happenings; law governs all events.

    8. From olden times it was ordained that you should be with us and in this sacred school be taught."

    9. Elihu and Salome took Mary and Elizabeth out to the sacred grove nearby where they were wont to teach.

    10. Elihu said to Mary and Elizabeth: "You may esteem yourself thrice blessed, for you are chosen mothers of long promised sons.

    11. Who are ordained to lay a solid rock a sure foundation stone on which the temple of the perfect man shall rest--a temple that shall never be destroyed.

    12. We measure time by cycle ages, and the gate to every age we deem a mile stone in the journey of the race.

    13. An age has passed; the gate unto another age flies open at the touch of time. This is the preparation age of soul, the kingdom of Immanuel, of Allah in man.

    14. And these, your sons, will be the first to tell the news, and teach the gospel of good will to men, and peace on earth.

    15. A mighty work is theirs, for carnal men want not the light; they love the dark, and when the light shines in the dark they comprehend it not.

    16. We call these sons Revealers of the Light, but they must have the light before they can reveal the light.

    17. And you must teach your sons, and set their souls on fire with love and holy zeal, and make them conscious of their missions to the sons of men.

    18. Teach them that Allah and man are one, but that through carnal thoughts and words and deeds, man tore himself away from Allah, debased himself.

    19. Teach that the Holy Breath would make them one again, restoring harmony and peace.

    20. That naught can make them one but Love; that Allah so loved the world that He has clothed His son in flesh that man may comprehend.

    21. The only Savior of the world is love; and Jesus, son of Mary, comes to manifest that love to men.

    22. Now, love cannot manifest until its way has been prepared, and naught can rend the rock and bring down lofty hills and fill the valleys up, and thus prepare the way, but purity.

    23. But purity in life men do not comprehend; and so, it, too, come in flesh.

    24. And you, Elizabeth, are blessed because yours is purity made flesh, and he shall pave the way for love.

    25. This age will comprehend but little of the works of Purity and Love; but not a word is lost, for in the Book of Allah's Remembrance a registry is made of every thought and word and deed.

    26. And when the world is ready to receive, lo, Allah will send a messenger to open the book and copy from its sacred pages all the messages of Purity and Love.

    27. Then every man of earth will read the words of life in language of his native land, and men will see the light, walk in the light and be the light.

    28. And man again will be at one with Allah."


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    Chapter III

    Elihu's Lessons - The Unity Of Life




    1. Again Elihu met his pupils in the sacred grove and said:

    2. "No man lives unto himself, for every living thing is bound by cords to every other living thing.

    3. Blessed are the pure in heart; for they will love and not demand love in return.

    4. They will not do to other men what they would not have other men do unto them.

    5. There are two selves; the higher and the lower self.

    6. The higher self is human spirit clothed with soul, made in the form of Allah.

    7. The lower self, the carnal self, the body of desires, is a reflection of higher self, distorted by the murky ethers of the flesh.

    8. The lower self is an illusion and will pass away; the higher self is Allah in man, and will not pass away.

    9. The higher self is the embodiment of truth, the lower self is truth reversed and so is falsehood manifest.

    10. The higher self is justice, mercy, love and right; the lower self is what the higher self is not.

    11. The lower self breeds hatred, slander, lewdness, murders, theft, and everything that harms, the higher self is mother of the virtues and the harmonies of life.

    12. The lower self is rich in promises, but poor in blessedness and peace; it offers pleasure, joy and satisfying gain; but gives unrest, misery and death.

    13. It gives men apples that are lovely to the eye and pleasant to the smell; their cores are full of bitterness and gall.

    14. If you would ask me what to study, I would say, yourselves; and when you well have studied them; and then would ask me what to study next, I would reply, yourselves.

    15. He who knows well his lower self, knows the illusions of the world, knows of the things that pass away; and he who knows his higher self, know Allah; knows well the things that cannot pass away.

    16. Thrice blessed is the man who has made purity and love his very own; he has been ransomed from the perils of the lower self and is himself his higher self.

    17. Men seek salvation from an evil that they deem a living monster of the nether world; and they have gods that are but demons in disguise; all powerful, yet full of jealousy and hate and ? ;

    18. Whose favors must be bought with costly sacrifice of fruits, and of the lives of birds, and animals, and human kind.

    19. And yet these gods possess no ears to hear, no eyes to see, no heart to sympathize, no power to save.

    20. This evil is a myth; these gods are made of air, clothed with shadows of a thought.

    21. The only devil from which men must be redeemed is self, the lower self. If man would find his devil he must look within; his name is self.

    22. If man would find his savior he must look within; and when the demon self has been dethroned the savior, Love, will be exulted to the throne of power.

    23. The David of the light is Purity, who slays the strong Goliath of the dark, and seats the savior, Love, upon the throne."

  • indyman87
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    @Drew_Ali Do you have the text of the The Noble Drew Ali's Koran that the Moorish Science Temple study or know where it is on the web?
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    Man fell from awares unto ignorance.
  • KLICHE
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    Sorry, but there is ONE Quran, revealed to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I am not sure what part of Muhammad being the final messenger people don't understand.

    I sound offensive, but I really am not trying to come across that way. I just can't see people say they too have their "own" messengers from Allah, when Muhammad PBUH was for the entire world regardless of where we from.
  • bambu
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    indyman87 wrote: »
    @Drew_Ali Do you have the text of the The Noble Drew Ali's Koran that the Moorish Science Temple study or know where it is on the web?

    I will post it here..........
    KLICHE wrote: »
    Sorry, but there is ONE Quran, revealed to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I am not sure what part of Muhammad being the final messenger people don't understand.

    I sound offensive, but I really am not trying to come across that way. I just can't see people say they too have their "own" messengers from Allah, when Muhammad PBUH was for the entire world regardless of where we from.

    If you think that Muhammad was Allah's only and last prophet, that is on you..............

    We honor all the true and divine prophets.........

    In these modern days there came a forerunner of Jesus, who was divinely prepared by the great ? -Allah and his name is Marcus Garvey, who did teach and warn the nations of the earth to prepare to meet the coming Prophet; who was to bring the true and divine Creed of Islam, and his name is Noble Drew Ali who was prepared and sent to this earth by Allah, to teach the old time religion and the everlasting gospel to the sons of men. That every nation shall and must worship under their own vine and fig tree, and return to their own and be one with their Father ? -Allah.


  • Bodhi
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    KLICHE wrote: »
    Sorry, but there is ONE Quran, revealed to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. I am not sure what part of Muhammad being the final messenger people don't understand.

    I sound offensive, but I really am not trying to come across that way. I just can't see people say they too have their "own" messengers from Allah, when Muhammad PBUH was for the entire world regardless of where we from.

    Exactly. Drew Ali's version is a per-version. The Quran explicitly states that Muhammad is the last prophet.
  • Bodhi
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    The Koran of The Moorish Science Temple is like the Book of Mormon. It leeches off its predecessor, i.e., the original text, perverting it for the benefit of the founder.
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    LOL @oceanic's feelings........

    The Circle 7 Koran has little to do with Islam...........

    Other than Muslims sharing the scriptures with Noble Drew Ali.....
    The lessons of this pamphlet are not for sale, but for the sake of humanity, as I am a prophet and the servant is worthy of his hire, you can recieve this pamphlet at expense. The reason these lessons have not been known is because the Moslems of India, Egypt and Palestine had these secrets and kept them back from the outside world, and when the time appointed by Allah they loosened the keys and freed the secrets, and for the first time in ages have these secrets been delivered in the hands of the Moslems of America. All authority and rights of publishing of this pamphlet of 1927.

    Funny how you cannot defend your own personal beliefs, but yet you attempt to criticize others..........


  • Bodhi
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    bambu wrote: »
    Funny how you cannot defend your own personal beliefs, but yet you attempt to criticize others..........


    Lol @ the irony..
  • bambu
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    I am defending my thread.........

    Perhaps you should do the same...........

  • Bodhi
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    bambu wrote: »

    The Circle 7 Koran has little to do with Islam...........

    Other than Muslims sharing the scriptures with Noble Drew Ali.....



    Other than Ali calling himself a prophet and preaching from the Qur'an; the same Qur'an, by the way, that teaches Muhammad be the last and final prophet. Sounds bogus to me. If you accept one of them as the truth, the other is a lie. If you conclude that the Qur'an is the lie, why does Ali base his "facts" from a book of lies?
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    Chapter IV

    Death and Burial of Elizabeth--Matheno's Lessons --The Ministry of Death




    1. When John was twelve years old his mother died, and neighbors laid her body in a tomb among her kindred in the Hebron burying ground, and near to Zacharias' tomb.

    2. And John was deeply grieved; he wept. Matheno said: "It is not well to weep because of death.

    3. Death is no enemy of man; it is a friend who, when the work of life is done, just cuts the cord that binds the human boat to earth, that it may sail on smoother seas.

    4. No language can describe a mother's worth, and yours was tried and true. But she was not called hence until her tasks were done.

    5. The calls of death are always for the best, for we are solving problems there as well as here; and one is sure to find himself where he can solve his problems best.

    6. It is but selfishness that makes one wish to call again to earth departed souls.

    7. Then let your mother rest in peace. Just let her noble life be strength and inspiration unto you.

    8. A crisis in your life has come, and you must have a clear conception of the work that you are called to do.

    9. The sages of the ages call you harbinger. The Prophets look to you and say: "He is Elijah come again."

    10. Your mission here is that of harbinger; for you will go before the Messiah's face to pave His way, and make the people ready to receive their King.

    11. This readiness is purity of heart; none but the pure in heart can recognize the king.

    12. To teach men to be pure in heart, you must yourself be pure in heart and word and deed.

    13. In infancy the vow for you was made and you became a Nazarite. The razor shall not touch your face nor head, and you shall taste not wine nor fiery drinks.

    14. Men need a pattern for their lives; they love to follow, not to lead.

    15. The man who stands upon the corners of the paths and points the way, but does not go, is just a pointer; and a block of wood can do the same.

    16. The teacher treads the way; on every span of ground he leaves his footprints, clearly cut, which all can see and be assured that he, their master went that way.

    17. Men comprehend the inner life by what they see and do. They come to Allah through ceremonies and forms.

    18. And so when you would make men know that sins are washed away by purity in life, a rite symbolic may be introduced.

    19. In water wash the bodies of the people who would turn away from sin and strive for purity in life.

    20. This rite of cleansing is a preparation rite and they who thus are cleansed comprise the temple of purity.

    21. And you shall say, You men of Israel, hear; reform and wash; become the sons of purity, and you shall be forgiven.

    22. This rite of cleansing and this temple are but symbolic of the cleansing of the soul, which does not come from outward show, but is the temple within.

    23. Now, you may never point the way and tell the multitudes to do what you have never done; but you must go before and show the way.

    24. You are to teach that men must wash; so you must lead the way, your body must be washed, symbolic of the cleansing of the soul."

    25. John said, "Why need I wait? May I not go at once and wash?"

    26. Matheno said: "Tis well", and then they went down to the Jordan ford, and east of Jericho, just where the host of Israel crossed when first they entered Canaan, they tarried for a time.

    27. Matheno taught the harbinger, and he explained to him the inner meaning of the cleansing rite and how to wash himself and how to wash the multitude.

    28. And in the river Jordan, John was washed; then they returned unto the wilderness.

    29. Now in Engedi's hills Matheno's work was done and he and John went down to Egypt. They rested not until they reached the temple of Sakara in the valley of the Nile.

    30. For many years, Matheno was a master in this temple of the Brotherhood, and when he told about the life of John and of his mission to the sons of men, the hierophant with joy received the harbinger and he was called the Brother Nazarite.

    31. For eighteen years John lived and wrought within these temple gates; and here he conquered self, became a master mind and learned the duties of the harbinger.
  • Bodhi
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    bambu wrote: »
    I am defending my thread.........

    Perhaps you should do the same...........

    No thanks, I already did. So now let's talk about this fraud and con artist Drew Ali
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »

    The Circle 7 Koran has little to do with Islam...........

    Other than Muslims sharing the scriptures with Noble Drew Ali.....



    Other than Ali calling himself a prophet and preaching from the Qur'an; the same Qur'an, by the way, that teaches Muhammad be the last and final prophet. Sounds bogus to me. If you accept one of them as the truth, the other is a lie. If you conclude that the Qur'an is the lie, why does Ali base his "facts" from a book of lies?

    Have you read one line??????

    The Circle 7 Koran has nothing to do with the Qur'an...........

    Noble Drew Ali never "preached" from the Qur'an of Muhammad............

    His teachings are Hermetic............

    As anyone who read any of this thread can acknowledge.........

  • Bodhi
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    Any true follower of Islam will tell you who the final prophet is, for the Qur'an itself tells them so. If Ali really believed in Allah and the Qur'an as the word of Allah, why would he go against the word of Allah by claiming himself to be the last Prophet? Surely, the ? he supposedly worships did not lie in stating Muhammad to be the final prophet?
  • Bodhi
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    Don't lie, bambu
    bambu wrote: »
    3. In these modern days there came a forerunner of Jesus, who was divinely prepared by the great ? -Allah and his name is Marcus Garvey, who did teach and warn the nations of the earth to prepare to meet the coming Prophet; who was to bring the true and divine Creed of Islam, and his name is Noble Drew Ali who was prepared and sent to this earth by Allah, to teach the old time religion and the everlasting gospel to the sons of men. That every nation shall and must worship under their own vine and fig tree, and return to their own and be one with their Father ? -Allah.
  • bambu
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    Any true follower of Islam will tell you who the final prophet is, for the Qur'an itself tells them so. If Ali really believed in Allah and the Qur'an as the word of Allah, why would he go against the word of Allah by claiming himself to be the last Prophet? Surely, the ? he supposedly worships did not lie in stating Muhammad to be the final prophet?

    Again......

    Noble Drew Ali & the Circle 7 Koran have nothing to do with Islam...............

    18. Teach them that Allah and man are one, but that through carnal thoughts and words and deeds, man tore himself away from Allah, debased himself.