Reading "CHE" kinda disappointed...
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I'm only about 100 pages in so far but in his child hood he is racist and an opportunist off his white skin, but hates white North Americans, lol.
He really said black people have kept there purity by not bathing, haha... He was in medical school at the time he wrote this in his notes so no excuses he on some other ? /? .
He really said black people have kept there purity by not bathing, haha... He was in medical school at the time he wrote this in his notes so no excuses he on some other ? /? .
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some white politician just said this about che...an said jayz needs to do his research on someone before where the shirts an going to cuba
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Continue reading bruh and learn. I can respect the fact that one man can cause such a disturbance and be remembered for generations. It was organized chaos. His dedication would not be rattled by anyone. Learn why that is so and you can apply that to your field of vision.
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So true.
Jay should go home and read this and burn all his Che shirts...he can't take the lyrics back though. -
Continue reading bruh and learn. I can respect the fact that one man can cause such a disturbance and be remembered for generations. It was organized chaos. His dedication would not be rattled by anyone. Learn why that is so and you can apply that to your field of vision.
I'm optimistic so I will keep reading, ? this book cost me, lol. Its hard for me to respect the less principled, but I do. I have never had a racist bone in my body. I have no problems with homosexuals. Che ? all these servant chicks and he say its based off his stature. He traveling around hustling people telling them he a doctor when he only a student. When placed in a position when people look down on him he acts mad ignorant . He a trip I tell ya, but we will see how this plays out.
{/\/\/\just re read this post the above description applys to Jay Z and Dr. Dre haha/\/\/\}
In my life this is the second time I heard an educated Latino speak of how precious white skin is like its some right of passage. I hear asians do it too. Racist people to me have limited thinking...
who that broad in your sig?
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perspective@100 wrote: »Continue reading bruh and learn. I can respect the fact that one man can cause such a disturbance and be remembered for generations. It was organized chaos. His dedication would not be rattled by anyone. Learn why that is so and you can apply that to your field of vision.
I'm optimistic so I will keep reading, ? this book cost me, lol. Its hard for me to respect the less principled, but I do. I have never had a racist bone in my body. I have no problems with homosexuals. Che ? all these servant chicks and he say its based off his stature. He traveling around hustling people telling them he a doctor when he only a student. When placed in a position when people look down on him he acts mad ignorant . He a trip I tell ya, but we will see how this plays out.
{/\/\/\just re read this post the above description applys to Jay Z and Dr. Dre haha/\/\/\}
In my life this is the second time I heard an educated Latino speak of how precious white skin is like its some right of passage. I hear asians do it too. Racist people to me have limited thinking...
who that broad in your sig?
Ok, I hope I say this in the best possible way because I want you to understand what I'm getting at. Ok, check this, I don't like 2Pac. I didn't like his music with Deathrow and I hardly listened to him before that anyway. But his mentality is what I respect. His creation of T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E.. His positive movement. How he rose and fell. All those things, I examine and I take in. Now I do not apply his personality into my character profile. No I don't do that. But 2Pac was able to impact people on such a large scale. Why is that? How was 2Pac able to do what some other rapper could not? Look at his youth and his background, then you see the makings. You see what made that man memorable. Now take that and apply to CHE. Makavelli, Shaka Zulu, Karl Marx, Genghis Khan...these are just some of the few people we can learn from. Understand them in and out, take whats good and apply it to your life to increase your wisdom. They did some field studying. Check their notes. The bad parts about those people and Che, examine it, and come to a realization why it is bad and why you choose not to take that route. This will make you a more rounded man and help you in understanding people and their natures. So when it is presented to you in your life, you have that knowledge to fall back on. You will know a Che when you see one. Or a Shaka when you see one. This will also help in mapping out your own character. You don't have to digest it but you can keep it in your mental rolodex. Increase your wisdom. Believe it or not, isn't that what Che did? In order to understand how to better his revolution, he traveled to understand people and their natures. Now I could be wrong about that or just thinking of someone else but I thought it was Che who said something like that.
So the short version? Increase your wisdom and learn mankind, especially how mankind thinks. It will put you a step ahead of the ignorant people who have no understanding of our own shared weaknesses and strengths. Learn many tongues so you know how to speak em when you need to. Learn many tongues so when you hear it, you know what's is being said below the surface.
Oh and I don't know who that broad is but lawd have mercy if I did...oooooo weeeee and she looking clean and fresh too? My lord... -
I think Che was a product of his environment. Argentinians have a reputation for not liking black people. That don't mean all of them are the same, but alot of them look down on blacks.
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Muhannad X wrote: »I think Che was a product of his environment. Argentinians have a reputation for not liking black people. That don't mean all of them are the same, but alot of them look down on blacks.
Most white hispanics do. It's part of the culture. It must be understood that black hispanics are seen as the inferior descendants of the slave classes. They are less wealthy thany white people generally and less educated. This allows white people to exude their ? elitist mentality.
Also, White Hispanics hate that they can no longer exploit black and native peoples to make their money like they used to -
Che is certainly one of those people that you have to take the bad with the good. He was indeed a racist (like much of S. America is still very racist, as is Cuba) and he was born into a pretty upper crust family in Argentina. Another thing his detractors like to talk about is the shooting of Bautista loyalists after Cuba was liberated, which of course, the story changes to him ordering them shot to the more extreme he shot them himself. Fact is I believe that happened too, simply because its a common trait in revolutions to take out loyalists to the former regime.
Che isn't one of my heroes but I respect his mission. He could have stayed in Argentina and lived a life of luxury using his education and family breeding, he could have stayed in Cuba under Castro and lived with the wealth and reverence of the revolution but his ideas of freedom from capitalism led him as far as East Africa. He believed so wholeheartedly that he was actually leading guerrilla troops to battle with no formal military training himself...and this is something he didn't have to do, he was doing it because he thought it was right.
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ia asked this question before.....
when have you ever seen a dark skinned fine chick on latino tv?
when have you seen a dark person on latino tv not in a comedic role.
hell tego calderon still has problems traveling around latin america -
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Thats why that ? is dead -
CIA killed that ? good, Felix Rodriguez still got his watch lol
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he remains solidly overrated
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ia asked this question before.....
when have you ever seen a dark skinned fine chick on latino tv?
when have you seen a dark person on latino tv not in a comedic role.
hell tego calderon still has problems traveling around latin america
I guess you could say Amara la negra is in the "hypersexual" role......
However, most latinas embrace their "assets"......
Whats up with that translation, b????
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RodrigueZz wrote: »Muhannad X wrote: »I think Che was a product of his environment. Argentinians have a reputation for not liking black people. That don't mean all of them are the same, but alot of them look down on blacks.
Most white hispanics do. It's part of the culture. It must be understood that black hispanics are seen as the inferior descendants of the slave classes. They are less wealthy thany white people generally and less educated. This allows white people to exude their ? elitist mentality.
Also, White Hispanics hate that they can no longer exploit black and native peoples to make their money like they used to
Most hispanics claim to be these good christians and i can understand that you wanna keep your fam wealthy, but
Its 2013 how can you be such hypocrites -
ia asked this question before.....
when have you ever seen a dark skinned fine chick on latino tv?
when have you seen a dark person on latino tv not in a comedic role.
hell tego calderon still has problems traveling around latin america
I guess you could say Amara la negra is in the "hypersexual" role......
However, most latinas embrace their "assets"......
Whats up with that translation, b????http://youtu.be/e1ELPPBpT-Q
ill translate when i get home....but i think shes dominican... -
ia asked this question before.....
when have you ever seen a dark skinned fine chick on latino tv?
when have you seen a dark person on latino tv not in a comedic role.
hell tego calderon still has problems traveling around latin america
I guess you could say Amara la negra is in the "hypersexual" role......
However, most latinas embrace their "assets"......
Whats up with that translation, b????http://youtu.be/e1ELPPBpT-Q
ill translate when i get home....but i think shes dominican...
I think she said she half italian
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I'm from Curaçao, an island next to Venezuela. We got alot of so called latins from latin America, namely DR, Venezuela, Colombia etc. I'm not disputing the fact some white latino's are racist but black and white have been living together for a few centuries so they've learned to atleast tolerate eachother. Most Argentinians are 3rd or 2nd generation Europeans, mainly Italians, so they aren't used to black people like that. You used to have blacks in Argentina but through social engineering blacks are virtually non-existant in Argentina. Argentinians have a rep for being stuck up and racist all through the lating world so Che harboring racist feelings towards blacks doesn't surprise me at all. I'm not saying all Argentinians are racist BTW...RodrigueZz wrote: »Muhannad X wrote: »I think Che was a product of his environment. Argentinians have a reputation for not liking black people. That don't mean all of them are the same, but alot of them look down on blacks.
Most white hispanics do. It's part of the culture. It must be understood that black hispanics are seen as the inferior descendants of the slave classes. They are less wealthy thany white people generally and less educated. This allows white people to exude their ? elitist mentality.
Also, White Hispanics hate that they can no longer exploit black and native peoples to make their money like they used to
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I think that Che Guevara has been glamorized and overrated. He was still a great man in many ways though. I don't agree his socialist views, but I do admire his courage, his dedication, his humanist philosophy, his relentless attack on imperialism, and his support for solidarity. That's partly the reason why I have a Che Guevara keychain, though I am a bit wary of people mistaking me for a communist. Though one time, a homegirl of mine looked at the keychain and asked me why I carried around a Charles Manson keychain. Maybe I should do away with the keychain altogether. I do find it ironic though that Che Guevara's image is quite profitable for capitalists.
As for him being racist in his early years, that's a non-issue. It would only be an issue if he wasn't racist. Racism is a base emotion shared by the majority of people in this world. Even Gandhi had expressed some racist tendencies. Now does that stop me from admiring Gandhi? No. I think that a lot of black folk are too sensitive (Note: I'm not saying that we shouldn't be sensitive. I'm saying that we shouldn't be too sensitive) when it comes to racism. Ww're too sensitive to the point that anyone who expresses any kind of racism against blacks is supposed to be "evil" and not worthy of any respect regardless of anything else that said person might beleive in. We all have flaws, but these flaws don't necessarily define us. Some black folk also seem to think that black people can't be racist as well, but that's just stupid. And when black people are racist, they seem to get a pass, which is also stupid.Muhannad X wrote: »You used to have blacks in Argentina but through social engineering blacks are virtually non-existant in Argentina.
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I think that Che Guevara has been glamorized and overrated. He was still a great man in many ways though. I don't agree his socialist views, but I do admire his courage, his dedication, his humanist philosophy, his relentless attack on imperialism, and his support for solidarity. That's partly the reason why I have a Che Guevara keychain, though I am a bit wary of people mistaking me for a communist. Though one time, a homegirl of mine looked at the keychain and asked me why I carried around a Charles Manson keychain. Maybe I should do away with the keychain altogether. I do find it ironic though that Che Guevara's image is quite profitable for capitalists.
As for him being racist in his early years, that's a non-issue. It would only be an issue if he wasn't racist. Racism is a base emotion shared by the majority of people in this world. Even Gandhi had expressed some racist tendencies. Now does that stop me from admiring Gandhi? No. I think that a lot of black folk are too sensitive (Note: I'm not saying that we shouldn't be sensitive. I'm saying that we shouldn't be too sensitive) when it comes to racism. Ww're too sensitive to the point that anyone who expresses any kind of racism against blacks is supposed to be "evil" and not worthy of any respect regardless of anything else that said person might beleive in. We all have flaws, but these flaws don't necessarily define us. Some black folk also seem to think that black people can't be racist as well, but that's just stupid. And when black people are racist, they seem to get a pass, which is also stupid.Muhannad X wrote: »You used to have blacks in Argentina but through social engineering blacks are virtually non-existant in Argentina.
How so? I'm just curious.
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