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THOT PILGRIM
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How you subscribe to a religion that was forced on your ancestors by whites and used to justify the enslavement of your people for centuries?
Talk about it bible thumping ?
Talk about it bible thumping ?
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i'm pretty sure christianity was in africa way before slavery though.....
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Man this thread was gon do numbers lol
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infact i'm pretty sure it was in africa before it was in europe
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They are ? and they downright talk ? about voodun ifa/santeria and other african spiritual systems, but want to use some Western Asian copycat religion system. If the bible was to presented for a grade it would get an F in plagarism.
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infact i'm pretty sure it was in africa before it was in europe
? that gotta do with anything?
The ? was still used to justify enslaving blacks
According to whites, we're the descendants of Ham and Canaan. Ham supposedly ? Noah while he was ? and Noah cursed his son Canaan into servitude. Whites used this as an explanation for our dark skin (Ham translates to burnt in Arabic) and why it was cool to enslave usCanaan cursed by Noah
Genesis 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
24 ¶ And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD ? of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 ? shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
The Bible was also used to justify ? over Indians aka Manifest Destiny. Drive them out of their lands and ? them over because the Bible tells me so.Exodus 23
30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.
Judges 11
21 And the LORD ? of Israel delivered Sihon and all his people into the hand of Israel, and they smote them: so Israel possessed all the land of the Amorites, the inhabitants of that country.
22 And they possessed all the coasts of the Amorites, from Arnon even unto Jabbok, and from the wilderness even unto Jordan.
23 So now the LORD ? of Israel hath dispossessed the Amorites from before his people Israel, and shouldest thou possess it?
24 Wilt not thou possess that which Chemosh thy ? giveth thee to possess? So whomsoever the LORD our ? shall drive out from before us, them will we possess.
Numbers 33
55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be ? in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
56 Moreover it shall come to pass, that I shall do unto you, as I thought to do unto them.
How can you be a part of that ? knowing this very true piece of history?
? your Bible, ? your religion, that ? is bogus -
1. I grew up going to a predominantly black church with self knowledge that Caucasians were not from North Africa where the original Ysraelites migrated to when the Persians and Northern Europeans took over Babylon nor do I believe that white people have hair like wool and tan skin. I don't watch white pastors preach cause 99% of them are controlled by the government to expand the false knowledge of a white Jesus and corruption plus their ancestors were responsible for removing books from the bible.
2. Don't really think our culture would have been any much better off if we stayed in Africa under a totalitarian type government that believed in enslaving us and selling us in the triangle slave trade to another culture while other cultures were already in fear of any race that's not white. We would have eventually been blown off the map as America is doing with the middle-east so that they can extract all the oil and gold from us and label us as terrorist so ? saved us cause our ancestors are the original Ysraelites.
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infact i'm pretty sure it was in africa before it was in europe
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Egypt and Ethopia. Not in the other part of Africa until the portoguese arrived.
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i ain't gonna quote scripture, but it's pointed out quite a few times towards the new testament that anyone ? uses the word to manipulate their own purposes is pretty much gonna catch it in the end....
i say that to say just because people have through history used the bible as a tool to justify their own agenda's doesn't mean the bible itself is to blame.....
that burden and those sins rests on the shoulders of those individual alone....
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GrandMasterSour wrote: »1. I grew up going to a predominantly black church with self knowledge that Caucasians were not from North Africa where the original Ysraelites migrated to when the Persians and Northern Europeans took over Babylon nor do I believe that white people have hair like wool and tan skin. I don't watch white pastors preach cause 99% of them are controlled by the government to expand the false knowledge of a white Jesus and corruption plus their ancestors were responsible for removing books from the bible.
And most black pastors want your tithes and offerings.2. Don't really think our culture would have been any much better off if we stayed in Africa under a totalitarian type government that believed in enslaving us and selling us in the triangle slave trade to another culture while other cultures were already in fear of any race that's not white. We would have eventually been blown off the map as America is doing with the middle-east so that they can extract all the oil and gold from us and label us as terrorist so ? saved us cause our ancestors are the original Ysraelites.
Word? So thank ? for ? ?
Your point?3. Christians were being persecuted and murdered in Africa.
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Yall dancing around the fact that your religion was instrumental in ? over your people
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Guns were instrumental to ? over people, does that mean guns should be rejected?
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THOT PILGRIM wrote: »Yall dancing around the fact that your religion was instrumental in ? over your people
can't blame the word though.....
plus the word teaches us to love and forgive our enemies regardless....so you ain't gonna anger anyone here
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THOT PILGRIM wrote: »GrandMasterSour wrote: »1. I grew up going to a predominantly black church with self knowledge that Caucasians were not from North Africa where the original Ysraelites migrated to when the Persians and Northern Europeans took over Babylon nor do I believe that white people have hair like wool and tan skin. I don't watch white pastors preach cause 99% of them are controlled by the government to expand the false knowledge of a white Jesus and corruption plus their ancestors were responsible for removing books from the bible.
And most black pastors want your tithes and offerings.2. Don't really think our culture would have been any much better off if we stayed in Africa under a totalitarian type government that believed in enslaving us and selling us in the triangle slave trade to another culture while other cultures were already in fear of any race that's not white. We would have eventually been blown off the map as America is doing with the middle-east so that they can extract all the oil and gold from us and label us as terrorist so ? saved us cause our ancestors are the original Ysraelites.
Word? So thank ? for ? ?
Your point?3. Christians were being persecuted and murdered in Africa.EmperorRises wrote: »Egypt and Ethopia. Not in the other part of Africa until the portoguese arrived.
Eh bruh, ? y'all ? .
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Guns were instrumental to ? over people, does that mean guns should be rejected?
White people who oppressed black people ate bread. Boycott bread!
For a ? so well read about Socratees and Playtoe I'd expect a better argument outta you
This issue is culturally significant to blacks because our people tend to hold Christianity in high regard
Many blacks believe that they should hold onto Christianity because it gave the slaves hope
When it reality it was used by whites to justify enslavement and mistreatment. It was also used to keep Blacks believing that if they held on, Jesus was gonna save them from slavery instead of rising up and liberating themselves. Many Christian ? spirituals were based on the belief that dying a faithful Christian slave was good because you get to see Jesus in the end. ? up way to keep your slaves in line: break them down so bad mentally that they'd rather die in captivity than free themselves.
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we shall overcome
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For someone who wants to pull philosophy out in an argument I'd expect you to avoid the genetic fallacy. If you can't see how the fallaciousness of the two arguments I put forth are comparable to that in your initial qualm just say so.
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It just a reality to make you look at the doctrine that you are in. Research the history, culture, and people. If you at least can't do that than you want to be ignorant.
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just because someone goes to war in the name of ? doesn't mean they're right.
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Ethiopia is one of the oldest Christian nations and Christianity wasn't spread only because of slavery. But I guess this smart/dumb ? conveniently disregarded that or just didn't know. But carry on with your ignorance.
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For someone who wants to pull philosophy out in an argument I'd expect you to avoid the genetic fallacy. If you can't see how the fallaciousness of the two arguments I put forth are comparable to that in your initial qualm just say so.
genetic fallacies can be true, particularly when the merit of the issue is discussed.
The merit of Christianity and Black people:
-Black Christian women are more likely to have children that they can't afford to care for because of religious convictions, thus perpetuating poverty
-Black people tithe faithfully and generously but remain financially behind
-Black churches claim to be pillars of the community but the communities that they are located in are usually poverty and crime stricken, and they haven't done much to change the communities that surround them
-Christianity perpetuates homophobia
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GrandMasterSour wrote: »1. I grew up going to a predominantly black church with self knowledge that Caucasians were not from North Africa where the original Ysraelites migrated to when the Persians and Northern Europeans took over Babylon nor do I believe that white people have hair like wool and tan skin. I don't watch white pastors preach cause 99% of them are controlled by the government to expand the false knowledge of a white Jesus and corruption plus their ancestors were responsible for removing books from the bible.
2. Don't really think our culture would have been any much better off if we stayed in Africa under a totalitarian type government that believed in enslaving us and selling us in the triangle slave trade to another culture while other cultures were already in fear of any race that's not white. We would have eventually been blown off the map as America is doing with the middle-east so that they can extract all the oil and gold from us and label us as terrorist so ? saved us cause our ancestors are the original Ysraelites.
3. Christians were being persecuted and murdered in Africa.
this ? beat me to it.
Before I even participate.
@Thot
How much of the bible have you personally read and tried to understand before making accusations?
How much do you know about the history of ancient Israel?
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