Supreme Court rules 6-2. States can ban -Affirmative Action-. The Freedom Ride is over negros.
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Only matters for them Ivy/Elite schools that'll turn out Reginald Lewis' Obamas and Holders. Them people brilliant, they'll get in anyway. I always felt this ? was overblown and just another racist ? white people use against blacks, "unqualified" my ass.
Lots of underprivileged people need additional assistance (tutoring, summer classes, mentorship, internship) before the point of getting to college anyways. -
Darth Sidious wrote: »ring vhames wrote: »not surprised...
white men are scared...the irony is in a few years they will be the minority in this country and could have benefited from affirmative action
I believe one of the goals of affirmative action was to amend for past discrimination so their would have to be a history of discrimination before they could benefit from 'affirimative action'. Being in a minority class in itself does not qualify you alone I believe.
More info
http://homepages.se.edu/affirmative-action/4/
◾While disadvantaged minorities receive additional consideration because of race (and the history related thereto), it is not true that whites would automatically gain more places in selective institutions of higher education if race were not a factor in admissions decisions.
◾In The Shape of the River, written by former university presidents William Bowen of Princeton University and Derek Bok of Harvard University, the authors pointed out that eliminating consideration of race would have increased the likelihood of admission for white applicants at selective undergraduate institutions from 25% to only 26.5%.
◾Given the overwhelming numbers of white applicants, and the factors that tend to benefit socially and economically advantaged students, athletes, and others, Gratz and Grutter (plaintiffs in the lawsuit against the University of Michigan) were more likely disadvantaged by their socio-economic or class status than by their race.
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HyenaKilla wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »HyenaKilla wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »HyenaKilla wrote: »If you wanna go to school pay for it, whether by working or student loans, grants like everyone else....
They gotta let you in first.
Who is they? The "man"?
? all that....These colleges & universities are businesses that are primarily concerned about a student's ability to pay tuition. I'm living in Texas, originally from New York City & it was so much easier getting into college here, than back home.
Affirmative action has nothing to do with how you pay for school.. You are mixing the issues. It has to do with admissions..
You obviously misconstrued my point....I will clarify it for you....Gaining admissions shouldn't be based on racial or gender factors, it should be based on academic ones foremost, but mainlly the ability to pay for tuition should be the general path to admissions....IMO
Still two different issues and colleges should not be bribed in order to let you in. Academic standing should always be the primary incentive and they should be able to charge more if they are able to produce higher quality graduates, which Ivy league schools do and does. Regardless, they offer ways for intelligent yet broke folks to get in. Still has nothing to do with racism and keeping kids out because of their skin tone even after they meet those factors. Affirmative Action doesn't truly address that nor does in incentivise higher standards in our community. -
? been brandscare tactics, they acting like Flavor Flav is getting into Yale,
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ThirdEyeFive wrote: »letting unqualified minorities into universities doesn't help anyone...
the action should be strengthening the public schools so that the students do qualify...
So because theyre minorities theyre unqualified? ok -
Black people looking for a way out of this jail called Earth must organized in a place where the powers that be can't touch us- In A Virtual Reality World.
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HyenaKilla wrote: »I don't see any issues, it's common sense & it is what it is. At the end of the day, educational institutions are businesses. Ideally, students invest in themselves in some form or another (Personal and/or Career incentives) when they pay for admissions. What bribes are you talking about?
I disagree. This is how degree farms are born and this is why America is losing on the education front. There should be higher standards. This is why i support free tuition at least for Public Colleges. Only your lack of education, not economic discrimination should keep you out. Even then, there should be continued effort to increase educational levels even with repeat offenders. -
Like your favorite ? Obama said before, "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps". lol.
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ThirdEyeFive wrote: »letting unqualified minorities into universities doesn't help anyone...
the action should be strengthening the public schools so that the students do qualify...
So because theyre minorities theyre unqualified? ok
If they are qualified what's the issue? -
FuriousOne wrote: »This will only make us stronger. We should refocus our education on black colleges and keep crackers out.
LOL c'mon bruh. Of all the events that has happened in the history of America past and present, the AA that can be banned by states will cause ? to transform like optimus and form together like voltron?
yea the ? right. And I hate saying that ? , but its just the damn truth
Out of the entire black population in the country, probably about 10 percent has heard or read about this. 95 percent would more than likely not give a ? .
? won't wake up to do better, but will set their alarms for the new yeezus. ? aren't going to do ? besides posting on a twitter page
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FuriousOne wrote: »This will only make us stronger. We should refocus our education on black colleges and keep crackers out.
LOL c'mon bruh. Of all the events that has happened in the history of America past and present, the AA that can be banned by states will cause ? to transform like optimus and form together like voltron?
yea the ? right. And I hate saying that ? , but its just the damn truth
Out of the entire black population in the country, probably about 10 percent has heard or read about this. 95 percent would more than likely not give a ? .
? won't wake up to do better, but will set their alarms for the new yeezus. ? aren't going to do ? besides posting on a twitter page
WTF are you talking about. We already have Historically Black Colleges bruh. You act like Blacks are not going to college, you ol pessimistic ass ? . Tuskegee Institute is one of the finest schools on the planet. -
Affirmative action is to make sure a certain minimum percentage of jobs and school vacancies are set for minorities to prevent discrimination. Just because they're minorities ,it doesnt mean theyre unqualified.
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ring vhames wrote: »not surprised...
white men are scared...the irony is in a few years they will be the minority in this country and could have benefited from affirmative action
Bruh, you already know they got a contingency plan for when that day comes. -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »This will only make us stronger. We should refocus our education on black colleges and keep crackers out.
LOL c'mon bruh. Of all the events that has happened in the history of America past and present, the AA that can be banned by states will cause ? to transform like optimus and form together like voltron?
yea the ? right. And I hate saying that ? , but its just the damn truth
Out of the entire black population in the country, probably about 10 percent has heard or read about this. 95 percent would more than likely not give a ? .
? won't wake up to do better, but will set their alarms for the new yeezus. ? aren't going to do ? besides posting on a twitter page
WTF are you talking about. We already have historically black colleges bruh. You act like blacks not going to college ol pessimistic ass ? . Tuskegee Institute is on of the finest schools on the planet.
Damn, I can't stand you ? ? who ask me WTF I'm talking about when I express myself clearly enough so there is no confusion.
What a fine school have to do with young blacks whom often want to go to college without thinking about just going to an all black college, you dumb ? . The University of Michigan chick is fine example. ? aren't graduating from high school and first thinking of going to a black college...you dumb ? . -
FuriousOne wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »This will only make us stronger. We should refocus our education on black colleges and keep crackers out.
LOL c'mon bruh. Of all the events that has happened in the history of America past and present, the AA that can be banned by states will cause ? to transform like optimus and form together like voltron?
yea the ? right. And I hate saying that ? , but its just the damn truth
Out of the entire black population in the country, probably about 10 percent has heard or read about this. 95 percent would more than likely not give a ? .
? won't wake up to do better, but will set their alarms for the new yeezus. ? aren't going to do ? besides posting on a twitter page
WTF are you talking about. We already have historically black colleges bruh. You act like blacks not going to college ol pessimistic ass ? . Tuskegee Institute is on of the finest schools on the planet.
Damn, I can't stand you ? ? who ask me WTF I'm talking about when I express myself clearly enough so there is no confusion.
What a fine school have to do with young blacks whom often want to go to college without thinking about just going to an all black college, you dumb ? . The University of Michigan chick is fine example. ? aren't graduating from high school and first thinking of going to a black college...you dumb ? .
Bruh, was the Supreme Court decision passed before that girl decided to try for Michigan? Do you know the future and whether this will increase the spotlight on the HBC's or do you think it shouldn't? You seem so assured and determined that we should fail. -
Bruh, you stupid maphuka, read carefully...
You said that this happening would cause blacks to get stronger and that we should refocus on black education and keep whites out...
I quoted that ? ...you stupid maphuka. And I responded...to that ? ....you stupid maphuka.
In my response, I said ? wouldn't care about this ? anyway, because they probably didn't hear about it or wouldn't give a ? . They are still going to go for the college that they want to go to...
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playmaker88 wrote: »By my personal definition ...its the wealth, influence and access only one of these will change much
That's not your personal definition, that's a common sociological definition for minority. -
All the ? our ancestors had to go through and fight for is being thrown down the drain by this generation, most of these mfs are too slow to even realize it.
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HyenaKilla wrote: »I personally never benefited from affirmative action....so cry me a river...
That is overly calloused.
I've never had bypass surgery but that doesn't mean it doesn't help society -
HyenaKilla wrote: »Oh thatz nuthin..... but on subject, how does affirmative action help society?
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HyenaKilla wrote: »FuriousOne wrote: »HyenaKilla wrote: »I don't see any issues, it's common sense & it is what it is. At the end of the day, educational institutions are businesses. Ideally, students invest in themselves in some form or another (Personal and/or Career incentives) when they pay for admissions. What bribes are you talking about?
I disagree. This is how degree farms are born and this is why America is losing on the education front. There should be higher standards. This is why i support free tuition at least for Public Colleges. Only your lack of education, not economic discrimination should keep you out. Even then, there should be continued effort to increase educational levels even with repeat offenders.
Bruh....either way you look at it, colleges & universities are degree farms lol! It's a business, a racket, that is ideally structured to produce crops of graduates marketed towards big industries....
I really can't grasp what you're griping about. It sounds more like political ideological disconnect between our viewpoints. You appear to have socialist sentiments which isn't necessarily a bad perspective. I'm a realist & more inclined to think in terms of economics.
There are other more efficient non-race based methods to encourage & ensure racial diversity among students besides AA.
I never said i was for Affirmative Action. . It's mainly aimed at work places anyway because most colleges are socialistic. Big businesses are discriminatory across all factors. I think we should go further in holding business accountable to our society. And yes i am liberal in my views of how we can handle our countries education. Being a realist doesn't mean that you are correct. It only means that you see the world in your own reality but there are other realities. Most countries support education without economic hardship and many countries tailor education to focus on realistic markets. Degree farms mainly produce fodder and there is hardly a guarantee when big industries are barely hiring these overproduced degree holders. Our industry and middle class collapsing because of such practices. I'm more about humanity and sustainability of the human race. -
Affirmative Action doesn't help unqualified people in the first place, even with it qualified minorities were denied entry.
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? don't want to create, or support their own communities. you ? have no infrastructure. yet have a problem with affirmative action.
affirmative action don't provide opportunities for the unqualified, they actually give qualifyed people an opportunity, that would have been overlooked in the past because of a culture.
every Rights blackS Have, we haD to fight and take it, meaning they Didnt want Us to have it in the first place.
unemployment in the black community is high now?
wait till this trend of cutting away affirmative action Start spreading. you higher Than art Gorillaz, will be screechin a different tune. -
supreme court ? over black and brown again.
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Affirmative Action for me is cool in cases for organizations that have a long history of discrimination or have benefited from slavery. In other cases, affirmative action actually makes Whites look at Blacks as "those guys who don't belong". To be honest, I'd rather not be anywhere where I'm not wanted. That's just me though.
Double irony though in that White women have benefited the most from affirmative action. At least they'll suffer a bit too lol
