Where should Melo go? Or should should he stay in NY? Explain your choice.
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Chicago BullsBest shot he has at a ring imo, he'll still get his shots and Thibodeau knows how to hide average defenders
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Houston RocketsThose picking Chicago, is this with our without Rose? Could he do it without him?
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Houston RocketsTommy bilfiger wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »01 rose
02 butler
03 melo
04 gibson
05 noah
Add a solid bench, could challenge lebron
Sigh. How fuking long do i have to rant and rave about the Bulls. Thats NOT ENOUGH!!!
So a OKC squad with Durant (better than Melo) and RW (healthier than Rose) cant get over the ? , but that team will!?!? Taj Gibson as your starting pf?...Jimmy Butler? smh Yall so stubborn.
You don't need a team wit all stars at every position.2 scorers with solid rebounding and elite defense is a championship recipe.
Then you're comparing the bulls motion offense(consistent movement,back door cuts/screens,drive and kick) to that wacc ass okc offense where they just jack jumpers and rotate isos between russ and the servant all game.Bulls were top 10 in team assists despite not having their pg.Bulls need a scorer/scoring
Smh Nggas learn nothing. So when Miami wins its 3rd title in a row NOT using that model will you then be willing to change, or?? B/c they have 3 "scorers" (which is dumb wording anyway b/c they are much more than "scorers", perhaps what u mean is "stars"), they have terrible rebounding, but a gang of 3pt shooters...or if SA wins it'll be due to 3 "scorers" and a gang of shooters...when Dallas won it was due to a gang of shooters.
The defense of course will always be SOMEWHAT of a constant, but not as impt as you think. Chicago is working on an antiquated model, and despite the success of the teams who've flourished in recent years, yall STILL havent learned. smh
So even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring and the 3 ball---but the Bulls are good enough to not have to? smh
You sound like an idiot bruh.Miami is the EXCEPTION to the rule and if u take lebron off that team they'd get sonned he is the reason miami is elite and he's one of the greatest ever.Everybody can't and won't use that miami model.Look at the last 5 champs lakers 2 stars,role players,solid defense,spurs 3 stars,role players,solid defense,Mavs 1 star,several role players solid defense,heat 1 star (and a star by name but shaq was damn near washed) several role players iiight defense,pistons no stars Elite defense and role players.So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
This ngga stay takin "his team" personal. We got another greenwood.
And you cite the Pistons of 2004 and the Heat from 2006??! Catch up ngga its almost 2015.
Im not attacking the Bulls for their lack of "stars", im attacking them based on their lack of scoring and firepower, 3 pt shooting, etc. You're not winning with that 2 yards and a pil of dust bullshyt they on. And shame on you if you underestimate the sophistication of the game and think somethign that worked even just 8.9 years ago is gon work today.
Proof? I'll post it again @rd and @billfiger in case you didnt see it the first time:
Even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring, depth, and the 3 ball.
Even with Bron, wade, and Bosh, Miami won the last 2 yrs b/c of Bron at the 4 and spacing with depth and 3's.
And yes defense. Chicago has the defesne, but w/ Thibs and the way of thinking similar to yall, they will NEVER have the offense. -
New York KnicksMIAMI or Lakers...
Chicago... Rose hasnt provend he can stay healthy
Houston... Harden & Howard haven't proven they are capable of winning ? ... that team should have at least gotten out of the 1st round, those dudes don't have the will to win... Melo and Harden can't co-exist, especially now that Harden avg's 25PPG
MIA Melo would be comfy playing 2nd fiddle to Bron knowing that Wade will retire in the next 2 yrs
Lakers.. Lakers ALWAYS reload and are in contention for a chip (Won chips in the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's & 10)
GTFOH
These guys been each others rivals, since The public school era, as teenagers.
Carmelo always show up to face Lebron.
He's never, and I mean never, are going to sign up, and play with Lebron. not to mention hes always been overshadowed by lebron.
The media hyped them up as rivals...fans wanted them to be rivals...in reality they are friends and LeBron has already shown interest in being his teammate.
Dude u watch to much cartoons.
Rivals can't be friends?
Melo always, and I mean always get up for Bron.
I remember In his 2nd Year, In a slam magazine interview , He held a record of his matchups with Bron.
Melo Is not teaming up with Bron -
Houston RocketsTommy bilfiger wrote: »So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
You ask this as you campaign to add Melo to the Bulls. Clown.
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I honestly don't know. He'll have to be somewhere where he isn't the team's 1st and 2nd offensive option, if he wants to win. Melo's best teams were when he had players around who could be ball-dominant and efficient when needed to be (Chauncey Billups and Kenyon Martin before they were past their primes) and rim protectors (prime Marcus Camby, Birdman and Nene).
If the Knicks shed some dead weight and add a weapon or two, they'd fit that description along with a few other teams like Chicago. -
How the ? is the Bulls with Melo not enough
They had 2 sixth man of the year candidates coming off the bench and would add much need scoring with Melo an by getting Rose back
How are they the same as OKC when they play great defense unlike OKC and are well coached and disciplined unlike OKC ? -
Chicago Bulls
This ngga stay takin "his team" personal. We got another greenwood.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »01 rose
02 butler
03 melo
04 gibson
05 noah
Add a solid bench, could challenge lebron
Sigh. How fuking long do i have to rant and rave about the Bulls. Thats NOT ENOUGH!!!
So a OKC squad with Durant (better than Melo) and RW (healthier than Rose) cant get over the ? , but that team will!?!? Taj Gibson as your starting pf?...Jimmy Butler? smh Yall so stubborn.
You don't need a team wit all stars at every position.2 scorers with solid rebounding and elite defense is a championship recipe.
Then you're comparing the bulls motion offense(consistent movement,back door cuts/screens,drive and kick) to that wacc ass okc offense where they just jack jumpers and rotate isos between russ and the servant all game.Bulls were top 10 in team assists despite not having their pg.Bulls need a scorer/scoring
Smh Nggas learn nothing. So when Miami wins its 3rd title in a row NOT using that model will you then be willing to change, or?? B/c they have 3 "scorers" (which is dumb wording anyway b/c they are much more than "scorers", perhaps what u mean is "stars"), they have terrible rebounding, but a gang of 3pt shooters...or if SA wins it'll be due to 3 "scorers" and a gang of shooters...when Dallas won it was due to a gang of shooters.
The defense of course will always be SOMEWHAT of a constant, but not as impt as you think. Chicago is working on an antiquated model, and despite the success of the teams who've flourished in recent years, yall STILL havent learned. smh
So even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring and the 3 ball---but the Bulls are good enough to not have to? smh
You sound like an idiot bruh.Miami is the EXCEPTION to the rule and if u take lebron off that team they'd get sonned he is the reason miami is elite and he's one of the greatest ever.Everybody can't and won't use that miami model.Look at the last 5 champs lakers 2 stars,role players,solid defense,spurs 3 stars,role players,solid defense,Mavs 1 star,several role players solid defense,heat 1 star (and a star by name but shaq was damn near washed) several role players iiight defense,pistons no stars Elite defense and role players.So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
And you cite the Pistons of 2004 and the Heat from 2006??! Catch up ngga its almost 2015.
Im not attacking the Bulls for their lack of "stars", im attacking them based on their lack of scoring and firepower, 3 pt shooting, etc. You're not winning with that 2 yards and a pil of dust bullshyt they on. And shame on you if you underestimate the sophistication of the game and think somethign that worked even just 8.9 years ago is gon work today.
Proof? I'll post it again @rd and @billfiger in case you didnt see it the first time:
Even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring, depth, and the 3 ball.
Even with Bron, wade, and Bosh, Miami won the last 2 yrs b/c of Bron at the 4 and spacing with depth and 3's.
And yes defense. Chicago has the defesne, but w/ Thibs and the way of thinking similar to yall, they will NEVER have the offense.
You say the bulls lack scoring and firepower so adding melo and rose to the unit they currently have won't be enough? Lmao @ this clown.I said 2 stars,solid rebounding and elite defense is the recipe for a title
Then you said the miami heat don't rebound good and have won championships.Again they are the EXCEPTION
In the last 25 years only the 93 bulls,04 pistons and the 12 and 13 miami heat werent in the top 10 in defensive rebounds and still won the title.Bulls have the defense,the rebounding and the hustle/role players they need SCORING adding melo is adding scoring.Adding melo to the current core would make the bulls legit title contenders.I have no idea what point you tried to make or what you were talking about
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Chicago BullsTommy bilfiger wrote: »So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
You ask this as you campaign to add Melo to the Bulls. Clown.
So adding melo to the bulls is the equivalent of wade,lebron and bosh teaming up in their primes? I'm convinced you're trolling you can't be this stupid -
New York KnicksMIAMI or Lakers...
Chicago... Rose hasnt provend he can stay healthy
Houston... Harden & Howard haven't proven they are capable of winning ? ... that team should have at least gotten out of the 1st round, those dudes don't have the will to win... Melo and Harden can't co-exist, especially now that Harden avg's 25PPG
MIA Melo would be comfy playing 2nd fiddle to Bron knowing that Wade will retire in the next 2 yrs
Lakers.. Lakers ALWAYS reload and are in contention for a chip (Won chips in the 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's & 10)
GTFOH
These guys been each others rivals, since The public school era, as teenagers.
Carmelo always show up to face Lebron.
He's never, and I mean never, are going to sign up, and play with Lebron. not to mention hes always been overshadowed by lebron.
The media hyped them up as rivals...fans wanted them to be rivals...in reality they are friends and LeBron has already shown interest in being his teammate.
Dude u watch to much cartoons.
Rivals can't be friends?
Melo always, and I mean always get up for Bron.
I remember In his 2nd Year, In a slam magazine interview , He held a record of his matchups with Bron.
Melo Is not teaming up with Bron
So you say rivals can be friends...then you say Melo is never teaming up with Lebron because they are rivals...so you agreed and disagreed with me at the same damn time.
Their friends, but melo is to competitive , to play second fiddle to Lebron giving their history. Melo sees Bron as his equal -
Chicago Bullsboy have times changed.. when multiple allstars arent enough.. that speaks volumes...
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Houston RocketsThe only issue I have with Chicago is Rose's health. If he can't get healthy Chicago needs a back plan.
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stay with the Knicks
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Houston Rockets
How the ? is the Bulls with Melo not enough
They had 2 sixth man of the year candidates coming off the bench and would add much need scoring with Melo an by getting Rose back
How are they the same as OKC when they play great defense unlike OKC and are well coached and disciplined unlike OKC ?
OKC is not losing due to defense. They are losing due to offense in critical times. b/c only 2 guys are giving buckets consistenly. This is a team that in the reg season is among the higher scorign teams in the league.
So what do you think the Bulls gon do?
So if one of the most elite of elite duos EVER, Durant and RW, aint enough, my goodness what makes u think a questionable Rose and Melo is?? I know yall might be biased as fans but seriously, cmon. -
Houston RocketsTommy bilfiger wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
You ask this as you campaign to add Melo to the Bulls. Clown.
So adding melo to the bulls is the equivalent of wade,lebron and bosh teaming up in their primes? I'm convinced you're trolling you can't be this stupid
No your clear bias is blocking yoru better judgment. Like we havent been talking about what team Love can team up with (the Bulls continue to come up). Like people aint been talkin about potential 3 headed monsters for the last 4, 5 years Love, CP3, Deron, Melo, etc. You're delusional.
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Houston RocketsTommy bilfiger wrote: »
This ngga stay takin "his team" personal. We got another greenwood.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »01 rose
02 butler
03 melo
04 gibson
05 noah
Add a solid bench, could challenge lebron
Sigh. How fuking long do i have to rant and rave about the Bulls. Thats NOT ENOUGH!!!
So a OKC squad with Durant (better than Melo) and RW (healthier than Rose) cant get over the ? , but that team will!?!? Taj Gibson as your starting pf?...Jimmy Butler? smh Yall so stubborn.
You don't need a team wit all stars at every position.2 scorers with solid rebounding and elite defense is a championship recipe.
Then you're comparing the bulls motion offense(consistent movement,back door cuts/screens,drive and kick) to that wacc ass okc offense where they just jack jumpers and rotate isos between russ and the servant all game.Bulls were top 10 in team assists despite not having their pg.Bulls need a scorer/scoring
Smh Nggas learn nothing. So when Miami wins its 3rd title in a row NOT using that model will you then be willing to change, or?? B/c they have 3 "scorers" (which is dumb wording anyway b/c they are much more than "scorers", perhaps what u mean is "stars"), they have terrible rebounding, but a gang of 3pt shooters...or if SA wins it'll be due to 3 "scorers" and a gang of shooters...when Dallas won it was due to a gang of shooters.
The defense of course will always be SOMEWHAT of a constant, but not as impt as you think. Chicago is working on an antiquated model, and despite the success of the teams who've flourished in recent years, yall STILL havent learned. smh
So even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring and the 3 ball---but the Bulls are good enough to not have to? smh
You sound like an idiot bruh.Miami is the EXCEPTION to the rule and if u take lebron off that team they'd get sonned he is the reason miami is elite and he's one of the greatest ever.Everybody can't and won't use that miami model.Look at the last 5 champs lakers 2 stars,role players,solid defense,spurs 3 stars,role players,solid defense,Mavs 1 star,several role players solid defense,heat 1 star (and a star by name but shaq was damn near washed) several role players iiight defense,pistons no stars Elite defense and role players.So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
And you cite the Pistons of 2004 and the Heat from 2006??! Catch up ngga its almost 2015.
Im not attacking the Bulls for their lack of "stars", im attacking them based on their lack of scoring and firepower, 3 pt shooting, etc. You're not winning with that 2 yards and a pil of dust bullshyt they on. And shame on you if you underestimate the sophistication of the game and think somethign that worked even just 8.9 years ago is gon work today.
Proof? I'll post it again @rd and @billfiger in case you didnt see it the first time:
Even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring, depth, and the 3 ball.
Even with Bron, wade, and Bosh, Miami won the last 2 yrs b/c of Bron at the 4 and spacing with depth and 3's.
And yes defense. Chicago has the defesne, but w/ Thibs and the way of thinking similar to yall, they will NEVER have the offense.
You say the bulls lack scoring and firepower so adding melo and rose to the unit they currently have won't be enough? Lmao @ this clown.I said 2 stars,solid rebounding and elite defense is the recipe for a title
Then you said the miami heat don't rebound good and have won championships.Again they are the EXCEPTION
In the last 25 years only the 93 bulls,04 pistons and the 12 and 13 miami heat werent in the top 10 in defensive rebounds and still won the title.Bulls have the defense,the rebounding and the hustle/role players they need SCORING adding melo is adding scoring.Adding melo to the current core would make the bulls legit title contenders.I have no idea what point you tried to make or what you were talking about
Class dismissed
'The thing about the old days...they the OLD days.' ? outta here you VHS cassette.
Whether you or anyone likes it or not, Lebron n co teaming up changed everything (Boston's big 3 has a share in that movement as well). You still livin in the past.
...but u keep citing teams from 25 years ago. And i'll contnue to bump these threads year...after year...after sorry ass year that the Bulls continue to bang their head against a concrete wall with their 2 yards and a pile of dust. -
Bruh OKC is losing because of discipline an defense...none of this ? u talking and even on offense, that points to a coaching issue
How is a team scoring over 100 points and losing not having defensive issues? A team who can't stop the Grizzlies offense not having issues on defense?
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Houston RocketsBruh OKC is losing because of discipline an defense...none of this ? u talking and even on offense, that points to a coaching issue
How is a team scoring over 100 points and losing not having defensive issues? A team who can't stop the Grizzlies offense not having issues on defense?
So they have a game where 4 guys score for the ENTIRE game, but you want to add more defense. They START Sefolosha, Perkins, and Ibaka, and you want MORE defense. -
Other? , idk. Bulls make a ton of sense on paper, but I wonder if the experience with Amare would make Melo wary of teaming up Rose. Houston is illogical as hell to me. I don't think Miami would sink the cap space into adding a 4th star when they could use it to add some youth and athleticism to the bench.
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Houston Rocketslord nemesis wrote: »? , idk. Bulls make a ton of sense on paper, but I wonder if the experience with Amare would make Melo wary of teaming up Rose. Houston is illogical as hell to me. I don't think Miami would sink the cap space into adding a 4th star when they could use it to add some youth and athleticism to the bench.
Houston would create a big 3 of Melo, Harden, Howard. How does that make sense?
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Bruh, are you sickBruh OKC is losing because of discipline an defense...none of this ? u talking and even on offense, that points to a coaching issue
How is a team scoring over 100 points and losing not having defensive issues? A team who can't stop the Grizzlies offense not having issues on defense?
So they have a game where 4 guys score for the ENTIRE game, but you want to add more defense. They START Sefolosha, Perkins, and Ibaka, and you want MORE defense.
Do you not understand the concept of team defense and good individual defenders and the difference ?
Are you disputing OKC not being a good defensive team or disciplined -
Chicago BullsTommy bilfiger wrote: »
This ngga stay takin "his team" personal. We got another greenwood.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »01 rose
02 butler
03 melo
04 gibson
05 noah
Add a solid bench, could challenge lebron
Sigh. How fuking long do i have to rant and rave about the Bulls. Thats NOT ENOUGH!!!
So a OKC squad with Durant (better than Melo) and RW (healthier than Rose) cant get over the ? , but that team will!?!? Taj Gibson as your starting pf?...Jimmy Butler? smh Yall so stubborn.
You don't need a team wit all stars at every position.2 scorers with solid rebounding and elite defense is a championship recipe.
Then you're comparing the bulls motion offense(consistent movement,back door cuts/screens,drive and kick) to that wacc ass okc offense where they just jack jumpers and rotate isos between russ and the servant all game.Bulls were top 10 in team assists despite not having their pg.Bulls need a scorer/scoring
Smh Nggas learn nothing. So when Miami wins its 3rd title in a row NOT using that model will you then be willing to change, or?? B/c they have 3 "scorers" (which is dumb wording anyway b/c they are much more than "scorers", perhaps what u mean is "stars"), they have terrible rebounding, but a gang of 3pt shooters...or if SA wins it'll be due to 3 "scorers" and a gang of shooters...when Dallas won it was due to a gang of shooters.
The defense of course will always be SOMEWHAT of a constant, but not as impt as you think. Chicago is working on an antiquated model, and despite the success of the teams who've flourished in recent years, yall STILL havent learned. smh
So even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring and the 3 ball---but the Bulls are good enough to not have to? smh
You sound like an idiot bruh.Miami is the EXCEPTION to the rule and if u take lebron off that team they'd get sonned he is the reason miami is elite and he's one of the greatest ever.Everybody can't and won't use that miami model.Look at the last 5 champs lakers 2 stars,role players,solid defense,spurs 3 stars,role players,solid defense,Mavs 1 star,several role players solid defense,heat 1 star (and a star by name but shaq was damn near washed) several role players iiight defense,pistons no stars Elite defense and role players.So now everybody needs to follow miamis way? Foh ?
And you cite the Pistons of 2004 and the Heat from 2006??! Catch up ngga its almost 2015.
Im not attacking the Bulls for their lack of "stars", im attacking them based on their lack of scoring and firepower, 3 pt shooting, etc. You're not winning with that 2 yards and a pil of dust bullshyt they on. And shame on you if you underestimate the sophistication of the game and think somethign that worked even just 8.9 years ago is gon work today.
Proof? I'll post it again @rd and @billfiger in case you didnt see it the first time:
Even SA and 1 of the best coaches of all time in Popovich has changed his model---from "2/3 scorers and defense" to all out scoring, depth, and the 3 ball.
Even with Bron, wade, and Bosh, Miami won the last 2 yrs b/c of Bron at the 4 and spacing with depth and 3's.
And yes defense. Chicago has the defesne, but w/ Thibs and the way of thinking similar to yall, they will NEVER have the offense.
You say the bulls lack scoring and firepower so adding melo and rose to the unit they currently have won't be enough? Lmao @ this clown.I said 2 stars,solid rebounding and elite defense is the recipe for a title
Then you said the miami heat don't rebound good and have won championships.Again they are the EXCEPTION
In the last 25 years only the 93 bulls,04 pistons and the 12 and 13 miami heat werent in the top 10 in defensive rebounds and still won the title.Bulls have the defense,the rebounding and the hustle/role players they need SCORING adding melo is adding scoring.Adding melo to the current core would make the bulls legit title contenders.I have no idea what point you tried to make or what you were talking about
Class dismissed
'The thing about the old days...they the OLD days.' ? outta here you VHS cassette.
Whether you or anyone likes it or not, Lebron n co teaming up changed everything (Boston's big 3 has a share in that movement as well). You still livin in the past.
...but u keep citing teams from 25 years ago. And i'll contnue to bump these threads year...after year...after sorry ass year that the Bulls continue to bang their head against a concrete wall with their 2 yards and a pile of dust.
09-10 lakers- pau and kobe
11 Mavericks - dirk
You a clown.This is 3-5 years ago teams wit 1 and 2 primary scoring options won the title.The Bulls wit melo and rose and some shooters added to the current core would win the title or at least get to the finals -
Otherlord nemesis wrote: »? , idk. Bulls make a ton of sense on paper, but I wonder if the experience with Amare would make Melo wary of teaming up Rose. Houston is illogical as hell to me. I don't think Miami would sink the cap space into adding a 4th star when they could use it to add some youth and athleticism to the bench.
Houston would create a big 3 of Melo, Harden, Howard. How does that make sense?
Because it doesn't address Houston's glaring defensive inefficiency. Then there's how you divide touches between Harden and Melo, two guys that command the ball and have been ball-stoppers nh at times. Last year Dwight felt that the offense needed to run through him more so he's really going to ? and complain if they add Melo. -
Houston Rockets
Bruh, are you sickBruh OKC is losing because of discipline an defense...none of this ? u talking and even on offense, that points to a coaching issue
How is a team scoring over 100 points and losing not having defensive issues? A team who can't stop the Grizzlies offense not having issues on defense?
So they have a game where 4 guys score for the ENTIRE game, but you want to add more defense. They START Sefolosha, Perkins, and Ibaka, and you want MORE defense.
Do you not understand the concept of team defense and good individual defenders and the difference ?
Are you disputing OKC not being a good defensive team or disciplined
Ngga catch up to where im at man Lol I overstand what you're getting at, but that is coaching then. We're talking personel. And i've yet to hear someone who DOESNT think OKC needs a legit 3rd scorer. There's a thread on it, check it out.
And how does that relate here? Yall sayin add Melo on the Bulls and they're ready to go. No. They would be in the same hunt for a 3rd scorer. No matter how good their defense is, they not winnin no ring with Noah/Butler/Gibson as their 3rd option -
Lakers beat Celtics in game 7 of 2010 finals shooting 32%
Good thing they had all that scoring lol
