who better? westbrook or iverson
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After the finals appearance
He was kicked out the first round then kick out the second round and then missed the playoffs.
Dude wasn't winning like Yall say he was. -
And after Mutombo left the team became horrible.
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JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »No contest until Westbrook can prove he can single handedly Carry a team to a NBA finals run
Iverson was best pound for pound player of all time in his prime
No offense the league has better players then( I mean that exact season) compared to today. The Eastern conference was better but not much
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I hate you ? .
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THIRDSUPREME wrote: »
Awwww ? man I might fight a ? he say something foul about Iverson after watching that -
Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question. -
VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Worst logic possible
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VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Worst logic possible
Prove it to us
They wouldn't make it out the first round In the west with AI running the point. -
VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Worst logic possible
Prove it to us
Saying Westbrooke has a better team is worse logic? A.I. is a legend and one of the greatest at his position.I'm saying A.I. with another elite player would have gotten the job done unlike RW.RW has Kevin Durant and is not the best player on his team.Wes has never carried a franchise like Iverson.the Sixers have not been the same since.OKC would be fine without Wes and a PG that actually passes the ball like Rondo. I don't even know this is a discussion to been with. -
If AI were on the Thunder he would also be the 2nd best player on said team.
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VulcanRaven wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Worst logic possible
Prove it to us
Saying Westbrooke has a better team is worse logic? A.I. is a legend and one of the greatest at his position.I'm saying A.I. with another elite player would have gotten the job done unlike RW.RW has Kevin Durant and is not the best player on his team.Wes has never carried a franchise like Iverson.the Sixers have not been the same since.OKC would be fine without Wes and a PG that actually passes the ball like Rondo. I don't even know this is a discussion to been with.
They wouldn't win a series with that chucker.
Westbrook at least gon defend pass and rebound. -
A whole lot of ? who have no idea what the ? they're talking about.
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VulcanRaven wrote: »VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Worst logic possible
Prove it to us
Saying Westbrooke has a better team is worse logic? A.I. is a legend and one of the greatest at his position.I'm saying A.I. with another elite player would have gotten the job done unlike RW.RW has Kevin Durant and is not the best player on his team.Wes has never carried a franchise like Iverson.the Sixers have not been the same since.OKC would be fine without Wes and a PG that actually passes the ball like Rondo. I don't even know this is a discussion to been with.
No, saying "If THIS player was on THIS team, they would have won _______" is horrible logic, IF you are proclaiming it to be fact. Simply because it is impossible to prove.
If you admit that it's pure speculation, then fine. But, you're not.
So since you are so 100% that it is a fact, why don't you prove to us that it a prime AI + KD would have won a championship.
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i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
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Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
Yea cuz AI was defending elite players when he played like VC Tmac.
Oh yea, he never did. He was guarding Lue and all the other trash PGs from when he played. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
Yea cuz AI was defending elite players when he played like VC Tmac.
Oh yea, he never did. He was guarding Lue and all the other trash PGs from when he played.
so basically neither of em that good at defending. wash. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
Yea cuz AI was defending elite players when he played like VC Tmac.
Oh yea, he never did. He was guarding Lue and all the other trash PGs from when he played.
so basically neither of em that good at defending. wash.
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VulcanRaven wrote: »Put AI in his prime with Durant and you got a championship.Russ with Durant and Harden could not get that ring.
I think that answers the question.
Ngga...we JUST getting to the point where people will let Westbrook do him and not get blamed. But you think AI with Durant would work!?!?!?
Please note, AI with Melo, a fellow A1 scorer, didnt work as it would seem on paper...now, that was even a more mature AI, and he shot a very good 45% over those 2 years.
But if we talkin prime AI, who's to say what his career would look like. But 2 things. 1) Nggas cant automatically say AI and ____ would work or 'if AI had more help' bc AI's game was not conducive to 'help'! You cant just ignore that. But i guarantee he wouldnt just be doin whatever he wanted with KD or another scorer. For one, he wouldnt be playin SG anymore. He'd have to play PG. No 4 scoring titles. 27ppg on 41% is like, ok, but he's a scorer, oh well...22/23 ppg on 41% now you just a inefficient, chuckin ass pg....so now he's Stephon Marbury Lol #bars. That completely changes the trajectory
Just like we pretty much wont ever know what a prime Kyrie Irving could do stats wise bc he plays with Bron
Same with James Worthy never being 'the man'
Same with Pippen only havin 1 year w/ out Mike
Perhaps w/ Westbrook always playin with Durant (but this strecth is givin you an idea)
If Westbrook and KD stay together, RW will go back to avg around 22/23 a game. Finish his career around that mark. Is that REALLY indicative of who he is? 21ppg, 6apg? Vs with a green light he's given you 30 and 10 lol Thimnk anotu that type ? . AI had a pg/sg's dream of a green light. Outside of that ONE YEAR, it probably benefitted him, his brand, and his legacy more than it did winnign basketball. Russ, and Harden at the time, sacrificed a lot of STATS for winning basketball. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
Yea cuz AI was defending elite players when he played like VC Tmac.
Oh yea, he never did. He was guarding Lue and all the other trash PGs from when he played.
so basically neither of em that good at defending. wash.
Wait, what???? When hasn't Westbrook not defended well against subpar pgs??? He got beat by an elite guard, not the decoy scrub. -
Focal Point wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »i like how every day westbrook is brought up as a better defender he gets torched by another pg.
Yea cuz AI was defending elite players when he played like VC Tmac.
Oh yea, he never did. He was guarding Lue and all the other trash PGs from when he played.
so basically neither of em that good at defending. wash.
Wait, what???? When hasn't Westbrook not defended well against subpar pgs??? He got beat by an elite guard, not the decoy scrub.
as future and my ? big krit would say, just last week http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400579196
i know some of u will say thats an aberration, but lets not act like a.i. was only defending the tyrone lue's of the world. if stressbrook the defender yall say he is, he'd be slowin even elite ? down like cp3 has these last few games at least -
The only thing AI was guarding was passing lanes. FOH
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oh so iverson was just some ? who lucked into steals? while westbrook be shuttin ? down?
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look like some of the same hustle westbrook be showin to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwkZqMLv3ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQsxeRVPrNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_mPj-00js4
