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KRS One came out in the mid 80s. His breakout song was South Bronx, it was under the name Boogie Down Productions and was a response to The Bridge by MC Shan.
For those that don't know, there were two major Hip Hop shows in New York during the mid-80s; Mr Magic and Marley Marl on 107.5 WBLS and then there was 98.7 Kiss FM. Chuck Chillout was on Friday nights and Red Alert was on Saturday nights.
Here's a tape of the Red Alert show from 1986. Its KRS freestyling over the South Bronx beat dissing Mr Magic and MC Shan, then it goes into the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Qn6wL0XZM
After South Bronx, MC Shan released a diss record called ? That Noise, to which KRS responded with The Bridge Is Over;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-alEhlHSzk
Then he released the classic album Criminal Minded
After Criminal Minded his DJ Scott LaRock was tragically gunned down. He moved over to Jive Records and released 5 albums under the name Boogie Down Productions and three albums under the name KRS One. All of them are classics.
KRS was a trailblazer, he, along with Schooly D, Ice T and NWA created gangsta rap. Some Hip Hop enthusiasts assert that 9mm Goes Bang from the Criminal Minded album was one of the first gangsta rap songs. Its a song about a weed dealer getting in a shootout with a ? dealer. After the shootout he drives away in a BMW. Theres no lesson about principles, there's no moral to the story, there's no positive ending. Its just a shootout and he gets away. That was the beginning of gangsta rap.
As you can see, KRS One graced the cover of many Hip Hop magazines when he was in his prime (87-97). In addition to gracing the cover of magazines, he was on Arsenio Hall and Yo! MTV Raps. For those that don't remember, before the internet there were 3 main mediums for Hip Hop; The Source, Yo! MTV Raps and Arsenio Hall. New York had Video Music Box but the rest of the country didn't get it.
KRS One on Arsenio Hall 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zbMqpIEGY
KRS One on Arsenio Hall 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgwJ1rQO0A
KRS on Yo! MTV Raps 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a43kejSVXoU
KRS on Yo! MTV Raps 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-goWCMbbE
In conclusion, KRS One is one of the most important artists in Hip Hop history. His impact is immeasurable. He was the first rapper to bring philosophy and intellect into the game. Actually Melle Mel was first but Melle Mel didn't release a series of albums like KRS One. You could say that KRS picked up where Melle Mel left off.
A lot of people say that KRS One's message is confusing, or ambiguous. His message is that MCs should use Hip Hop to convey, well, a message. Rather than bragging and boasting about how great you are, use the microphone to convey something positive.
Here's a clip of KRS One lecturing at Harvard University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUaGFI2m5Y
By virtue of the fact that KRS One lectures at Harvad, you'd have to admit that he made a significant impact on Hip Hop and American pop culture.
For those that don't know, there were two major Hip Hop shows in New York during the mid-80s; Mr Magic and Marley Marl on 107.5 WBLS and then there was 98.7 Kiss FM. Chuck Chillout was on Friday nights and Red Alert was on Saturday nights.
Here's a tape of the Red Alert show from 1986. Its KRS freestyling over the South Bronx beat dissing Mr Magic and MC Shan, then it goes into the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Qn6wL0XZMAfter South Bronx, MC Shan released a diss record called ? That Noise, to which KRS responded with The Bridge Is Over;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-alEhlHSzkThen he released the classic album Criminal Minded
After Criminal Minded his DJ Scott LaRock was tragically gunned down. He moved over to Jive Records and released 5 albums under the name Boogie Down Productions and three albums under the name KRS One. All of them are classics.
KRS was a trailblazer, he, along with Schooly D, Ice T and NWA created gangsta rap. Some Hip Hop enthusiasts assert that 9mm Goes Bang from the Criminal Minded album was one of the first gangsta rap songs. Its a song about a weed dealer getting in a shootout with a ? dealer. After the shootout he drives away in a BMW. Theres no lesson about principles, there's no moral to the story, there's no positive ending. Its just a shootout and he gets away. That was the beginning of gangsta rap.
As you can see, KRS One graced the cover of many Hip Hop magazines when he was in his prime (87-97). In addition to gracing the cover of magazines, he was on Arsenio Hall and Yo! MTV Raps. For those that don't remember, before the internet there were 3 main mediums for Hip Hop; The Source, Yo! MTV Raps and Arsenio Hall. New York had Video Music Box but the rest of the country didn't get it.
KRS One on Arsenio Hall 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zbMqpIEGYKRS One on Arsenio Hall 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgwJ1rQO0AKRS on Yo! MTV Raps 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a43kejSVXoUKRS on Yo! MTV Raps 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC-goWCMbbEIn conclusion, KRS One is one of the most important artists in Hip Hop history. His impact is immeasurable. He was the first rapper to bring philosophy and intellect into the game. Actually Melle Mel was first but Melle Mel didn't release a series of albums like KRS One. You could say that KRS picked up where Melle Mel left off.
A lot of people say that KRS One's message is confusing, or ambiguous. His message is that MCs should use Hip Hop to convey, well, a message. Rather than bragging and boasting about how great you are, use the microphone to convey something positive.
Here's a clip of KRS One lecturing at Harvard University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUaGFI2m5YBy virtue of the fact that KRS One lectures at Harvad, you'd have to admit that he made a significant impact on Hip Hop and American pop culture.
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Fuuuuuuucc krs one
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Hate to be around when that ? sneeze
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Excellent thread.
Kinda sad that hip hop fans need a course on KRS.
It seems like hip hop is the only music where it's cool to not go back and listen to the music of today. I don't see that with other music. -
Excellent thread.
Kinda sad that hip hop fans need a course on KRS.
It seems like hip hop is the only music where it's cool to not go back and listen to the music of today. I don't see that with other music.
I think its humiliating. I mean its humiliating for the younger so-called "Hip Hop fans" who think they're cool by dissing the older generation. They don't realize how stupid they sound when they diss the previous generation.
Its like dissing Thomas Edison because all he did was invent the electric light, yeah that might not seem like much of a technological breakthrough nowadays, but we'd all be in the dark if it wasn't for Edison.
Its one thing if you're not familiar with KRS One's music, but its another thing to diss him and call him wack. These young cats don't realize how wack the current generation looks compared to what I grew up on. The new stuff is a mockery of Hip Hop. It isn't really Hip Hop. Its something else.
Hip Hop is 4 elements; Breaking, Graffiti, MCing and DJing. The stuff you see and hear nowadays doesn't contain any of the elements (not even MCing!). And I'm not making this up, thats the official definition of Hip Hop since it was founded. These kids nowadays don't know anything about the pioneers, can't name any famous DJs, don't know any breakbeats, can't breakdance, electric boogie or pop lock, couldn't name one member of the Rocksteady Crew, don't know the difference between a tag and a throw up, couldn't name one legendary graffiti writer but want to sound intelligent, or witty and type disses to an O.G. like myself who could hip you to the hottest mix tapes and radio shows from the 80s, but ya'll aren't interested.
You'd rather listen to Drake, Fetty Wap, Young Thug, Project Pat and Joe Budden and make threads about them as if they've contributed more to the culture than KRS One, Melle Mel, Grandmaster Flash and Kool Herc.
I propose we change the name of this website to Newrap.com. This place is supposed to be ALLHIPHOP.COM and there's not even five 80s albums in the vault, as if there aren't five classic 80s albums. What do you think we were listening to in the 80s? Run DMC doesn't have anything in the vault, LL Cool J doesn't have anything in the vault, KRS One doesn't have anything in the vault. Hell, in the summer of 1988 alone there were 10 classic Hip Hop albums! To make matters worse, I've made posts in the vault thread saying that we need more 80s albums in the vault and rather than sparking dialogue I got flagged!!! -
Man, if I could make up a list of samples, lines, and styles rappers took from Krs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDd7UbJmdmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1vKOchATXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxwlyV8QxZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K49-YMDG2Lk
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Lil b give lectures at ivy leagues too tho
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Budden didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus although he is a lame at times he is a superior talent and would probably be the first to cosign this thread, I can tell he's a student of the game and respects the pioneers, that ? ? was more personal than it was him just ? on a legend for no reason going back to the days of them being label mates
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Yeah,
Throwing budden in the mix like that was kinda odd
Dude really luvs hip hop. At least the art of rap -
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all this ? come about cuz one dude cryin online for months instead of taking care of his grandchildren about 25 ? from all over the world aint vote a damn album into an internet hall of fame.
so that equals a whole generation not respecting krs contributions...
? mad cuz people would rather listen to other artists than krs, like its mandatory to like krs to like hip hop just cuz he may have contributed more than kendrick. what the ? is that? that aint hip hop.
u mad cuz u feel ? ignore the older generation and u try to kick knowledge but u not taken seriously because u act like a ? blonde when it comes to anything that came out after 1990. but u "hip hop doe..."
you (old)? , i tell u. -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »? .
all this ? come about cuz one dude cryin online for months instead of taking care of his grandchildren about 25 ? from all over the world aint vote a damn album into an internet hall of fame.
so that equals a whole generation not respecting krs contributions...
? mad cuz people would rather listen to other artists than krs, like its mandatory to like krs to like hip hop just cuz he may have contributed more than kendrick. what the ? is that? that aint hip hop.
u mad cuz u feel ? ignore the older generation and u try to kick knowledge but u not taken seriously because u act like a ? blonde when it comes to anything that came out after 1990. but u "hip hop doe..."
you (old)? , i tell u.
Nice post. Now explain why Run DMC, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Stetsasonic, De La Soul, The Beastie Boys or KRS One don't have any albums in the vault.
In fact, if you could just explain why Run DMC doesn't have an album in the vault it would all make sense. -
He got washed by Nelly in a hip hop beef.
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Seen him last January he's here in November again. One of the GOATS of Hip Hop.
https://youtu.be/r-pyHVQW_NU -
i know all about KRS and what hes done, I even own Criminal Minded on cd
still dont give a ? about em and id still rather listen to Project Pat
and its tha summertime aint nobody wearin no ? coats -
Posted this in the other thread but it should be in here
I honestly chalk it up to this board, this generation not having respect or the care to go back and listen.
Alotta people here didnt even statt listwning to rap heavily till after 2000 and really dont appreciate much before 96.
Knowing that, it dont bother me as much cause im used to it.
As longs I know the importance of
Self destruction
Loves gonna get cha
Bridge is over
Outta here
Step into a world
Etc , im good
KRS was that dude.
The point where he ? up is when he became the face of hip hop elitism.
He became annoying to fans because instead of seeing him someone who loved hip hop, they saw him as a bitter old rapper -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »? .
all this ? come about cuz one dude cryin online for months instead of taking care of his grandchildren about 25 ? from all over the world aint vote a damn album into an internet hall of fame.
so that equals a whole generation not respecting krs contributions...
? mad cuz people would rather listen to other artists than krs, like its mandatory to like krs to like hip hop just cuz he may have contributed more than kendrick. what the ? is that? that aint hip hop.
u mad cuz u feel ? ignore the older generation and u try to kick knowledge but u not taken seriously because u act like a ? blonde when it comes to anything that came out after 1990. but u "hip hop doe..."
you (old)? , i tell u.
Nice post. Now explain why Run DMC, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Stetsasonic, De La Soul, The Beastie Boys or KRS One don't have any albums in the vault.
In fact, if you could just explain why Run DMC doesn't have an album in the vault it would all make sense.
does the vault really matter that much in the grand scheme of things
are there articles out there discussing how much of a travesty it is that krs one has no albums in the IC vault
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i cant tell u why none of those guys have albums in the vault. only reason i can think of is they albums didnt come to the mind of the thread starter or the nominators. im pretty sure stew is well aware of all those artists impact, it prolly just slipped his mind or maybe he thought us posters would be more onto the 90's legends(which>>>80's btw), idk.
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Posted this in the other thread but it should be in here
I honestly chalk it up to this board, this generation not having respect or the care to go back and listen.
Alotta people here didnt even statt listwning to rap heavily till after 2000 and really dont appreciate much before 96.
Knowing that, it dont bother me as much cause im used to it.
As longs I know the importance of
Self destruction
Loves gonna get cha
Bridge is over
Outta here
Step into a world
Etc , im good
KRS was that dude.
The point where he ? up is when he became the face of hip hop elitism.
He became annoying to fans because instead of seeing him someone who loved hip hop, they saw him as a bitter old rapper
^^^^^this -
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Posted this in the other thread but it should be in here
I honestly chalk it up to this board, this generation not having respect or the care to go back and listen.
Alotta people here didnt even statt listwning to rap heavily till after 2000 and really dont appreciate much before 96.
Knowing that, it dont bother me as much cause im used to it.
As longs I know the importance of
Self destruction
Loves gonna get cha
Bridge is over
Outta here
Step into a world
Etc , im good
KRS was that dude.
The point where he ? up is when he became the face of hip hop elitism.
He became annoying to fans because instead of seeing him someone who loved hip hop, they saw him as a bitter old rapper
I understand what you're saying. And I'll admit his music went downhill over the years, but there was a time when KRS One was like ? . It was a time when Hip Hop as a whole was underground. The only type of rap you'd hear on the radio was MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Salt N Pepa, Run DMC and people who were really commercial. In Boston we had college radio stations.
The college stations would have a rap show once a week, like Saturday from 7-9pm or something like that. Thing is, in Boston there's a lot of colleges. There was; Ermerson College, Boston College, Boston University, M.I.T., Brandeis University and Harvard University and they all had a two hour rap show that came on once a week. Incidentally, the show on Harvard was 95.3 Streetbeat. It was hosted by Go Go Dave and JJ The Sultan of Rap, otherwise known as Dave Mays and Jonathan Schecter who would later go on and start The Source. I remember when you used to call and request a song they'd ask for your mailing address for a newsletter they were starting. I remember getting the very first edition of The Source when it was just a newsletter. It was basically a piece of paper folded in half. Must have been in the fall of 1988. It gradually grew to a quarterly newsletter/magazine. Then when it became a full fledged magazine around 1990 they took me off the mailing list and I started seeing it at newsstands. I remember I had a friend who subscribed to The Source and every month when it came out that magazine would get passed around like a joint.
Anyway, that was around the time that KRS was on top of the game. We used to sit at the lunch table and argue about who was the best MC. I can remember people saying it was between Rakim and Kane but I always thought KRS was better than Kane.
KRS would be featured on Yo! MTV Raps, he would be featured on Arsenio Hall, he'd get the front page of The Source. To deny KRS One's impact or legacy is insane. You'd have to be crazy or uninformed to say that KRS didn't have any impact, or that he didn't have as much impact as Rakim and Public Enemy. Another thing is that Rakim and Public Enemy kinda fizzled out around 1992 while KRS kept dropping albums. He was on a major label until 1997 and truth be told, most of his albums were 4 mics or better.
Anyway, here's a link to a 95.3 Streetbeat show. I'm not sure if there's anything by KRS One but this is what I used to listen to when I was a teenager
http://www.unkut.com/2013/02/street-beat-radio-show/
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I know.. TRUST ME I KNOW.
Im sayin these cats dont and I'll accept that. No point in arguing.
KRS was one of the most feared and respected mcs for a good string of years.
But thats rap culture. Respect now and now only. -
Dope thread. Got all of KRS' albums on my first gen ipod. Need to download some again. I played the hell out of criminal minded when i was 15 or so. back in 2005 lol
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lol @ krs kept dropping albums
they did nothing.
in the 80's rakim pe ll>>>krs
in the 90's nas, jay, outkast, tribe>>>krs
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Edutainment
Blueprint
Boom Bap....
Did nothing ?
Lmaooooooo
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what they do that was so much more than rakim, pe, and LL? take sales out the equation cuz they did nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNnarm1pGaU