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  • Shizlansky
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    Buddy and Valentine is a no go for me.

  • silverfoxx
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Buddy and Valentine is a no go for me.

    I was saying the same, but they both have some positives that I can rally behind.

    What about them you don't ? with?

    Buddy- red flags: No handles? (He actually has a decent handle) chucker? (True, but he has ability to warm up and make very impressive shots) lack of defense? ( Dude measurements was 6'5 with a 6"9 wing span, he is a hard worker that get better at D) quick rise at senior level? ( Dame Lillard did the same thing, and his Buddy floor is instant offense which will make him a decoy in our system)

    https://youtu.be/K6f3G15VhyY
    Valentine- Red flags: lack of athleticism? ( His passing, IQ, and shooting helps him with that) defense? ( This may be the biggest worry, but he may makeup for it with how he helps running your offense) measurements? ( He actually measured pretty well at 6'6 and a 6'9 wingspan. He also had a good aglity test)
    https://youtu.be/oMQKaXvIEvw

    All 3 players ALL have one thing that we need, LEADERSHIP. They all were captains or ran their team. The Pelicans lack leadership and Davis has shown that he is fine being a Robin. I think all 3 of those guys overtime becomes our Batman.
  • its....JOHN B
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    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....
  • Shizlansky
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    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    Yup
  • Shizlansky
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    And Lillard is lighting quick and has a amazing range.

    Buddy don't have that ? . And if you're a slow footed PG in today's league you're lunch meat.

    And I wait on the official height because college be lying like ? about that ? .
  • silverfoxx
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    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    So was Lillard, Leonard, Draymond, etc.....
  • silverfoxx
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    And Lillard is lighting quick and has a amazing range.

    Buddy don't have that ? . And if you're a slow footed PG in today's league you're lunch meat.

    And I wait on the official height because college be lying like ? about that ? .

    He is gonna play SG, I don't think he is as slow as people make him.

    And Buddy official measurements were the ones I stated. That was at the combine.
  • Billy_Poncho
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    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.
  • its....JOHN B
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    So was Lillard, Leonard, Draymond, etc.....

    Trust me bruh Hield is a special player, I ain't with ylthese so called experts who are wrong MOST of the time
  • Shizlansky
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    So was Lillard, Leonard, Draymond, etc.....

    You name two dudes that's lockdown at their position and don't turn the ball over

    And Lillard is one of the best shooter and quickest players in the league. And buddy ain't none of that.
  • silverfoxx
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    So was Lillard, Leonard, Draymond, etc.....

    You name two dudes that's lockdown at their position and don't turn the ball over

    And Lillard is one of the best shooter and quickest players in the league. And buddy ain't none of that.

    The video I dropped of Buddy in this thread, does he really looks that slow to you? How he attacks the rim is quite impressive. Is Harden any faster then Buddy? I don't think so. Harden has better handles, but Curry handles wasn't great either entering the league, and he came in as a Junior. My point is this, Buddy is 22, and has questions, but he also have heart and character to improve, which has been doing EVERY year.
  • silverfoxx
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Buddy Hield is 22 RED FLAG.....

    So was Lillard, Leonard, Draymond, etc.....

    Trust me bruh Hield is a special player, I ain't with ylthese so called experts who are wrong MOST of the time

    Lowkey Celtic fans want Helid lol. You ain't slick bruh lol
  • silverfoxx
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    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though
  • Billy_Poncho
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen
  • Shizlansky
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    Shizlansky does this all the time, if he's right he's uppin this thread a year from now, if he's wrong crickets, ? him and his awful attempt at trying to sound like an expert talent evaluator, he don't know what the ? he's talking about

    I have never "upped" a thread or went back in a thread to quote somebody that was wrong about something months before.
  • ZydecoShawty
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    He's basing this entire notion off Pelicans Report message board speculation that our GM Dell Demps is under so much pressure from the higher ups and is operating in complete desperation mode to make the playoffs next season just to save his job
  • silverfoxx
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    Who? And when? We on AD timeline now followed by Benson "win now" mode.
  • silverfoxx
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    He's basing this entire notion off Pelicans Report message board speculation that our GM Dell Demps is under so much pressure from the higher ups and is operating in complete desperation mode to make the playoffs next season just to save his job

    What moves disprove this though?
  • Billy_Poncho
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    Who? And when? We on AD timeline now followed by Benson "win now" mode.

    Austin Rivers, Nerlens Noel (traded), and AD. And y'all aren't winning now no matter who you draft
  • silverfoxx
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    Who? And when? We on AD timeline now followed by Benson "win now" mode.

    Austin Rivers, Nerlens Noel (traded), and AD. And y'all aren't winning now no matter who you draft

    Austin Rivers was a rookie freshman with AD.Nerlens was literally trade Bait for Jrue. Next?
  • Billy_Poncho
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    Who? And when? We on AD timeline now followed by Benson "win now" mode.

    Austin Rivers, Nerlens Noel (traded), and AD. And y'all aren't winning now no matter who you draft

    Austin Rivers was a rookie freshman with AD.Nerlens was literally trade Bait for Jrue. Next?

    You sound dumb af, the best players in this draft are freshmen. Just because a player is older doesn't make him better. Y'all aren't competing in the West next year anyway, might as well build for the future.
  • silverfoxx
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    Who? And when? We on AD timeline now followed by Benson "win now" mode.

    Austin Rivers, Nerlens Noel (traded), and AD. And y'all aren't winning now no matter who you draft

    Austin Rivers was a rookie freshman with AD.Nerlens was literally trade Bait for Jrue. Next?

    You sound dumb af, the best players in this draft are freshmen. Just because a player is older doesn't make him better. Y'all aren't competing in the West next year anyway, might as well build for the future.

    ? I'm not the one with this win now mindset. It's our front office. They the ones dumb asf, not me.
  • ZydecoShawty
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    The owner is delusional one with a 'win now' mindset because he's ? old and stupid, but I really don't think Mickey Loomis is that ? stupid enough to believe the pathway to success in the NFL and NBA are exactly the same.
  • ZydecoShawty
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    silverfoxx wrote: »
    silverfoxx wrote: »
    Murray is damn near as good as Buddy and 3 years younger.

    Pelicans not drafting a freshman, I love Murray as a prospect though

    3 of their last 5 picks were drafted as freshmen

    He's basing this entire notion off Pelicans Report message board speculation that our GM Dell Demps is under so much pressure from the higher ups and is operating in complete desperation mode to make the playoffs next season just to save his job

    What moves disprove this though?

    What definitive move at the trade deadline proved that he was acting out of complete desperation to save this past season?