Betrayal:We Were Never Friends. We Just Grew Up Together.Hidden Racism
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I have 2 close white friends I grew up with and they're real ones. One who lives in ATL got a big ass gun pointed at him by cops this summer when he was in the streets protesting police killings.
Things like the story posted happen often I'm sure, but saying no white people could be your friend because they're all secretly racist is doing too much. Some white people in 2016 are pretty "woke" as they say...
This.
I will say that my true friendships with white ppl have been built over years. I don't necessarily need you to be "woke" for us to be friends either (although mine just so happen to be), just don't deny reality or try to downplay my experience simply because it's not yours.
Moving forward I think I've met my quota tho lol. I don't have time to be putting feelers out there seeing if you think the black panthers is the same as the KKK and ? anymore for every new white person I think is cool. I'm way past the teaching stage. If you don't know and wana know about some racial ? don't ask me, go to the library. -
Didn't y'all ? hate BLM just the other day?
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Undefeatable wrote: »This gets it all wrong.
It's not that they weren't really his friends, but that their anti-black racism was not of a kind that precluded friendships with some blacks.
People need more sophisticated analyses of racism.
Ayo man shut the ? up and by the way I know who you are -
this thread reeks of dangerous generalizations gaddamn.
why do you guys act like we all have the same life experience ?
stop spreading your race fears and racial paranoia and travel a little because some of you are no different than the actual racists you claim to hate and fight against. -
fortyacres wrote: »this thread reeks of dangerous generalizations gaddamn.
why do you guys act like we all have the same life experience ?
stop spreading your race fears and racial paranoia and travel a little because some of you are no different than the actual racists you claim to hate and fight against.
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Coincidentally enough,I was just talking about how practically all my old Army buddies are NOW realizing something I've know since day one.
Damn near ALL the white cats they THOUGHT was cool and they friends?
The ones we serviced with.....deployed with in war zones...literally in a life or death situations
Harbor deep-seated racism and bigotry
They are now disheartened learning the true feelings of their "white battle buddies "
Exposed by:
1. The election and re-election of Barrack Obama as President.
2. By the social & racial upraising caused by the murders of Trayvon Martin,Eric Garner etc.....
3.By the nomination of Donald Trump
I'm not a "racist" or "anti-white". I don't go out my way to show hatred,disrespect,vilify or demonize white folk.
That's not in my nature.
I treat ALL people with respect and courtesy until to they SHOW me otherwise they aren't worthy of such.
To be honest it's quite a few white people I'll helped out who were in a jam,even when I could have easily turned my back.
I try to do the right thing,because it's right. How you personal ""feel"" about me matters not.
It's when you express those thoughts in the physical realm that I treat you accordingly.
But still......
I drilled with nothing but rednecks. ? would be segregated. White folk are cool when it's convenient or when it benefits them.
Some of biggest ? I've met were in the Army we're black and some the of coolest white
White cats put me on to some things I've otherwise never paid no mind to.Particularly a lot of rock bands that have become some of my favorite music artists over.Even some underground hip hop I slept on
I was out well before Obama was 1st elected, but even then....it was still a sense segregation within the ranks
And you what... that was just fine...because for the most part everyone kept it cordial and missions were still getting accomplished.
But going by what I've heard in the last 8 years from my boys still in who decided make a career out the service....? has changed. The job is still getting done but the "unspoken understanding"....it's gone. Nothing crazy,but theres mad tension in the air. Social media,especially Facebook has had people exposing themselves.
From comments about Trayvon,Ferguson etc.
to posting blantant racist memes attacking President Obama -
Social media has exposed alot of people and their true feelings about ? . It sucks to find out certain people in your life are not what you thought.
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Social media has exposed alot of people and their true feelings about ? .
It sucks to find out certain people in your life are not what you thought.
How many of your family members you had to "unfriend" Kathryn?
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Is it possible to have a genuine friendship with someone whose sensibilities are completely different than your own, socially and politically?
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Is it possible to have a genuine friendship with someone whose sensibilities are completely different than your own, socially and politically?
The question is why would you want to? -
5th Letter wrote: »
I couldn't do it, personally. -
MasterJayN100 wrote: »
I don't believe the number of black people willing to fight back is as high as some people think it is. -
Family? I've only unfriended one, usually go the passive route and unfollow them. -
Is it possible to have a genuine friendship with someone whose sensibilities are completely different than your own, socially and politically?
It's not impossible,but highly improbable
The problem comes when there is a complete lack of sympathy,empathy, and understanding,while showing utter contempt,disrespect and indifference.
You can't be "friends" with ANYONE that consistently dismiss & disregards
your opinions and concerns about (legitimate) issues you feel strongly about
We can disagree and argue all day on HOW we need to get there
But we can't be in disagreement on the fact we need to get there -
Built 4 cuban linx wrote: »I had a close white "friend" in high school. Lost contact when I went off to college. Found each other on facebook a few years ago. Everything was cool until dudes true feelings came out when Mike Brown and Eric garner got killed. Posting all types of dumb memes making fun of the situation and black lives matter. Didn't see that ? coming.
You live by the ? code. That's why you didn't see it -
Is it possible to have a genuine friendship with someone whose sensibilities are completely different than your own, socially and politically?
It's not impossible,but highly improbable
The problem comes when there is a complete lack of sympathy,empathy, and understanding,while showing utter contempt,disrespect and indifference.
You can't be "friends" with ANYONE that consistently dismiss & disregards
your opinions and concerns about (legitimate) issues you feel strongly about
We can disagree and argue all day on HOW we need to get there
But we can't be in disagreement on the fact we need to get there
I can agree with this. If there's something that doesn't move me at all but is extremely important to you, I wouldn't be an ? without empathy and make little of it, intentionally. -
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fortyacres wrote: »this thread reeks of dangerous generalizations gaddamn.
why do you guys act like we all have the same life experience ?
stop spreading your race fears and racial paranoia and travel a little because some of you are no different than the actual racists you claim to hate and fight against.
It's not racial fears or paranoia. It's just reality. You never know who you're dealing with and what they're hiding. That goes for anyone. Just because I know and am cool with another black person doesn't mean that deep down he doesn't have ill intentions towards me. That kinda thing happens all the time. The problem is then when you deal with someone outside of your race, you have to deal with all that same ? , plus the possibility that they have some racial issues that you don't know about.
If you don't understand that, then you have your head in the sand. I've got white family members and I know they love me and the rest of their "black family members." But if you ask me what they think about BLM, black on black crime, or any of the other racial buzzwords these days, I can't tell you for sure that any of them understand our plight. That's the reality for anyone dealing with someone of another race. I'm not saying you shouldn't have or can't have white friends, but you're a fool if you just take for granted that they understand racial matters the way you do. And if they don't, there is always the chance that one day a major conflict could come out of that disagreement. Race is just that polarizing. -
I not surprised by any of the things I see out of White people now. Being in the rural south, I grew up around a bunch of Whites.
Most generally will keep it polite and cordial with you; however, when it comes to politics, social injustices, and clearly racially biased things they'll quickly start to reveal how they truly feel about you if you examine their actions close enough.
Social media especially has given any idiot with wifi access and/or a smartphone or other electronic device a platform to voice racist and ignorant rhetoric.
I don't even get mad at them anymore, because I know what to expect. Generally most southern Whites identify as conservative, work blue collar jobs, live in rural areas, identify as Christian, most love to hunt and fish, are lower middle class to poor, and most have bigoted views to anyone who is not like them.
There are some exceptions to the rule but most southern Whites pretty much fit the mold of the abovementioned. Given that regardless of my history with them I have no illusion of how they feel about me. Most would throw my Black rear under the bus in a heartbeat given the right circumstances.
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I has brunch of white friends growin up. They never really said anything out of pocket . we avoid talkin about race we just played spots fix cars and get into ? .
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I remember back in school Black students receiving harsher punishment for what were very minor infractions; I also remember our White counterparts receiving little punishment and sometimes no punishment at all depending on who their family was in the community.
I look back on situations such as that now with a more mature mind, and I clearly see they were planting the future seeds for racial profiling, preferential treatment based on race and socioeconomic factors, and biased punishment based on race.
They'll slowly condition individuals such as children, so some will not even question that same mistreatment as adults.
It's the same type of institutional racism many Whites love to claim doesn't exist though. -
I had fake friendships in college with white people. I don't even have the energy for that anymore. The forced conversations, not being able to completely be myself, always feeling like I'm wearing a mask, etc. I would have to go from using the word "? " about 15 times a day to 2 when I'm around a white friend. I'm just not comfortable.
It's such an illustration of the extra work you have to do as a minority to resonate with the greater public. Around white people, I don't feel like I have the luxury of just existing. It's like we have to prove our humanity, and if you lack the charm and other social skills to make that easily digestible for them, well, good luck to you. I'm too old for that now. They gotta kiss my ass. I bring my chitlins to work, heat them up in the break room and dare somebody to say some ? . Life's too short. -
obnoxiouslyfresh wrote: »I had fake friendships in college with white people. I don't even have the energy for that anymore. The forced conversations, not being able to completely be myself, always feeling like I'm wearing a mask, etc. I would have to go from using the word "? " about 15 times a day to 2 when I'm around a white friend. I'm just not comfortable.
It's such an illustration of the extra work you have to do as a minority to resonate with the greater public. Around white people, I don't feel like I have the luxury of just existing. It's like we have to prove our humanity, and if you lack the charm and other social skills to make that easily digestible for them, well, good luck to you. I'm too old for that now. They gotta kiss my ass. I bring my chitlins to work, heat them up in the break room and dare somebody to say some ? . Life's too short.
lol @ to around 2. The N word is like ? , you can never full give it up huh? -
I not surprised by any of the things I see out of White people now. Being in the rural south, I grew up around a bunch of Whites.
Most generally will keep it polite and cordial with you; however, when it comes to politics, social injustices, and clearly racially biased things they'll quickly start to reveal how they truly feel about you if you examine their actions close enough.
Social media especially has given any idiot with wifi access and/or a smartphone or other electronic device a platform to voice racist and ignorant rhetoric.
I don't even get mad at them anymore, because I know what to expect. Generally most southern Whites identify as conservative, work blue collar jobs, live in rural areas, identify as Christian, most love to hunt and fish, are lower middle class to poor, and most have bigoted views to anyone who is not like them.
There are some exceptions to the rule but most southern Whites pretty much fit the mold of the abovementioned. Given that regardless of my history with them I have no illusion of how they feel about me. Most would throw my Black rear under the bus in a heartbeat given the right circumstances.
all this is the unadulterated truth
