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What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
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What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
It will be a literal mark, which the catholics will be the ones giving the mark out (they already practice giving the mark every "ash" wednesday), they'll put the mark in either you forehead or rgt palm just like w/this mark which will be done during the tribulation period... Honestly those w/eyes & ears to see & hear will know the signs that will lead of to this period & will know to flee to the wilderness as Jesus stated... there will be no rapture & If take heed to Matthew where Jesus states AFTER the tribulation period is when HE & the saints will return to make war w/the nations & put an end to the tribulation period which will lead into the 1000 year rest period on earth.
we have to understand everything written back then was for our consumption now, John was given a vision of the future dealing with how things will be during the tribulation period onto the coming of the Fathers' Kingdom in New Jerusalem...
Just like when Daniel was writting the prophecies shown to him in a vision by the LORD & asked what did it all mean... HE was advised to close the book because it wasn't for him or his time to understand because they were all future events for others to learn & be made aware of, just like with what's going down w/the Eu today...
the nations have already asked the Pope to be the leader of the so called "peace" movement between the nations... it's going down & as I said those w/understanding of the scriptures know what's up... i feel sorry for these "scc" they take heed to their pastors lies & reject the truth according to the scriptures.. -
To me it means nothing.
In the bible it is speaking of something that had to due with the Romans and their numerous persecutions. And yes revelation is misinterpreted. John wrote it about the Romans and symbolized the end of times as their fall. It's no secret that Rome at that time was what America was during it's reign on top. Revelations constantly speaks about Babylon this, Babylon that. There are many authors of other writings around that time who refer to Rome as a second coming of Babylon.
The Mark of the Beast is simply the badge of servitude given by the Beast to identify you as one of his servants who must labor night and day so that the Beast may have power.
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of ? , which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of ? , and the faith of Jesus." Revelation 14:9-12
People think it means accepting the devil, or evil or w.e. It doesn't.
If you read into history you will see that Romans gave their slaves Charagma's. A charagma was a "badge of servitude" made by etching the important information about a slave in soft clay and then baking that clay. This worked also as a free pass around the city when fulfilling the assignments given slaves by their employers. So to me, accepting your Charagma was accepting the mark of the beast and the reason why it was wrong to accept it is because you were giving in to the Romans, you were a slave but you also were part of the city, when you were out and about you were free to do as you please in most cases as long as you accomplished your work.
This would also explain why accepting the Mark of the Beast would lead you to go to "hell". Because now when Rome (Babylon) fell and burned to the ground the slaves went with it, those who stood beside them would not live on, those who did not become part of Babylon and accept their role wouldn't die with Rome.
On a side note not directed toward you Vibe, I feel like seeing a new youtube video made, MOB = Mark of the Beast, Clever how hiphop for a good time now has been pushing their own "MOB" and telling people its a good thing..... -
My department head's extension number is 666, for real.
If they make us install microchips in our wrists I'll give you all fair warning. -
What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
The 'mark' of the beast is just a symbol. The ‘mark’ of the beast is everything and anything that goes against ? ’s ways and ‘his’ truths. In a nutshell, the ‘mark’ is anything that is blasphemous and opposes ‘? ’. The whole book of Revelation is explained in the Old Testament Scriptures, however most people today teaches that Revelation is a book of end-time, end of the world eschatology nonsense. -
kids in america_ wrote: »The 'mark' of the beast is just a symbol. The ‘mark’ of the beast is everything and anything that goes against ? ’s ways and ‘his’ truths. In a nutshell, the ‘mark’ is anything that is blasphemous and opposes ‘? ’. The whole book of Revelation is explained in the Old Testament Scriptures, however most people today teaches that Revelation is a book of end-time, end of the world eschatology nonsense.
I'm co-signing because you used the word eschatology.
Naw, for real this is a good post. People don't realize that the whole rapture nonsense was originated in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries - the church had never preached it before that. -
His thinking.
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What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
Isaiah 13:5-12 (King James Version)
5They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.
6Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
7Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
8And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.
9Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
11And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
Joel 2
1Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.
6Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
7They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
8Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
10The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
11And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
12Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye even to me with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
notice v10 of joel & how it relates to v10 of Isaiah (same events being discussed by the prophets) Now
Zephaniah 1:14-18 (King James Version)
14The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.
17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
same event being spoken of by the prophets (all future prophecy), Now lets see what their speaking of in the Nt
Matthew 24:21-22 (King James Version)
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matthew 24:29-31 (King James Version)
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Now Read all of Revelation 13 but continue ....
Revelation 14
1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads
Revelation 14:7-11 (King James Version)
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear ? , and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of ? , which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
(babylon is reffering to Rome & the Eu), this is why it states
Revelation 15
1And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of ? .
2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of ? .
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Revelation 17:2-5 (King James Version)
2With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made ? with the wine of her fornication.
3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
what religion is the mother harlot to all other religions? Christianity being ran by the Romans & led by the pope... They (Rome) will be back in power for the 10th time all you have to do is research & you will see they already have their armies in order under the Eu agreement... also
2 Peter 3:9-14 (King James Version)
9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of ? , wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
different point of views by different writers all speaking on the same event that hasn't took place yet, unless I missed something when the sun stop giving it's light & the stars fell from the heavens.. -
Sun light represents ? 's divine light and wisdom emanating through his servant. The stars represent the righteous who fell from their exalted state. Has happened repeatedly.
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What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
one more, when has this happened?
Revelation 21
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from ? out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of ? is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and ? himself shall be with them, and be their ? .
4And ? shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. -
here's the deal: you're talking about an apocalyptic vision described in the Bible. you should not be taking it LITERALLY, regardless of what you believe it refers to.What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip? -
here's the deal: you're talking about an apocalyptic vision described in the Bible. you should not be taking it LITERALLY, regardless of what you believe it refers to.
so what of the book of revelations? literal or no -
What does this mean exactly? The bible speaks of a numerical "mark" but is it misinterpreted? Is it a literal marking of the number on your body? Is it a microchip?
What does this mean to you?
Also, what kind of bearing did this have back then? Since some believe it is the true word of ? and nothing can be taken from or changed, what kind of bearing did this have on them? Did they sit back and laugh and say, "Well, us Christians in this time period don't have to worry! We'll just chill and have fun and give our lives to ? when we want sine it's 1900 plus years away!"
Do you think Revelation is misinterpreted as well? That we apply it to us, when it should've been applied to THEM for their purposes?
Man the book of Revelation in general is widely abused and/or misinterpreted. In all fairness, a great deal of Revelation can't even be understood unless the person is first a matured Christian.
The first verse in the book of Revelations give a clue as to what the book is about and to whom in particular at that time it was being addressed to. Not all of what's talked about in Revelation has to do with end of the world and not all of it directly applies to Christians in this age. -
solid analysis wrote: »it was being addressed to. Not all of what's talked about in Revelation has to do with end of the world and not all of it directly applies to Christians in this age.
so in a nut shell what should the people of this age pay attention to in the book of revelation?
"You are luke warm so I will chew you up and spit you out" -
Strange there's so many opinions or "facts" that are in here.
I did take Revelation seriously before, I mean not fully literally in the sense of the beasts they describe I know it's allegory in that sense. But due to the thing that I was taught that Revelation is the book of the 'end times'.
I can't even really tell you stance on this book now, I was just asking because I heard it discussed else where and thought it would make a good topic here. -
Strange there's so many opinions or "facts" that are in here.
I did take Revelation seriously before, I mean not fully literally in the sense of the beasts they describe I know it's allegory in that sense. But due to the thing that I was taught that Revelation is the book of the 'end times'.
I can't even really tell you stance on this book now, I was just asking because I heard it discussed else where and thought it would make a good topic here.
remember where your at -
TX_Made713 wrote: »so in a nut shell what should the people of this age pay attention to in the book of revelation?
I don't know, but wait, so you interested in what the Bible says now? -
well... you're talking about an apocalyptic vision described in the Bible. you should not be taking it LITERALLY, regardless of what you believe it refers to.TX_Made713 wrote: »so what of the book of revelations? literal or no -
well... you're talking about an apocalyptic vision described in the Bible. you should not be taking it LITERALLY, regardless of what you believe it refers to.
SMH at you not believing in a literal seven headed dragon. -
So why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? Why tell us about dragons, mouths of beasts, sounds of locusts etc? Why not be straight forward with it instead?
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actually, that's the one part i consider to be literally accurateSMH at you not believing in a literal seven headed dragon.
possibly because it's someone's apocalyptic dreamSo why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? -
So why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? Why tell us about dragons, mouths of beasts, sounds of locusts etc? Why not be straight forward with it instead?
There is a book called 'The Apocalypse Unsealed' by James Pryse who breaks down this book of the bible, if you're interested it's worth checking out:
The purpose of this book is to show that the Apocalypse is a manual of spiritual development and not, as conventionally interpreted, a cryptic history or prophecy. In the following pages the reader will find the complete solution of the Apocalyptic enigma, with ample proof of the correctness of that solution. As the subject dealt with in the work is, however, familiar to only a comparatively few special students of the sacred science, which to the many has ever been a sealed book, the exposition here given is put in the form of an elementary treatise.
For several centuries it was attempted to give the Apocalypse an historical interpretation; and failing this, through the lack of any record of past events that would serve the purpose, it was next interpreted as history of the future, that is, prophecy. At the present time, the Apocalypse is the despair of theology; the ablest scholars in the ranks of orthodoxy frankly admit that it must be regarded as an unsolved, and possibly insoluble, enigma. They translate its title "Revelation" yet it reveals nothing to them.
Moreover, although the Apocalypse treats very fully of the spiritual and psychic forces in man, it nowhere gives even a clue to the process by which these forces can be aroused to action; in fact, in the introductory part John clearly intimates that it is intended for the guidance of those who, without any esoteric instruction, find these forces awakened within them by the very purity of their" nature and the intensity of their aspiration for the spiritual life.
Evidently, then, he had another motive for resorting to the symbology and the ingenious puzzles which have baffled the profane for so many centuries ; and this motive is easily perceived. If he had written the book in clear language, it would almost undoubtedly have been destroyed; and it certainly would never have found a place in the Christian canon.
Now, in plain words, what does this very occult book, the Apocalypse, contain? It gives the esoteric interpretation of the Christos-myth ; it tells what "lesous the Christos" really is; it explains the nature of "the old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan"; it repudiates the profane conception of an anthropomorphic ? ; and with sublime imagery it points out the true and only path to Life Eternal.
Free for pdf download here:
http://knowledgefiles.com/categories/symbolism/the-apocalypse-unsealed/ -
actually, that's the one part i consider to be literally accurate
lolBiblicalAtheist wrote: »There is a book called 'The Apocalypse Unsealed' by James Pryse who breaks down this book of the bible, if you're interested it's worth checking out:
It's on Google Books too. Interesting perspective, very gnostic. -
So why the hell is Revelation so hard to decipher? Why tell us about dragons, mouths of beasts, sounds of locusts etc? Why not be straight forward with it instead?
bro its' not hard to decipher at all, once you get full understanding of both Ot & Nt, you will know who the dragon represents, who the beasts represents what the locusts represents... we have to understand John was shown a vision of future events dealing w/the nations & the weaponry we have today not back in his time...
Most ppl don't follow the laws of the Most High, therefore they can't understand the prophecys of the book... the laws are the milk (so if you not following them or making excuses to do away with them) you will have no insight on what the plan of the Most High is thru HIS prophecy which is the meat of the book.... & listening to others opinions on the matter won't help at all either... the scriptures speak for themselves, out of the mouth of two or more witnesses let every word be established... search the scriptures...
Hebrews 5:11-15 (King James Version)
11Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of ? ; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. -
It's a bar code in the form of a computer chip. When this one world government kicks off, they're going to change their little constitution paper and obliterate everyone's right to buy, sell or live without a computer chip in their body. Get rid of money in paper form, and everyone's right to free speech..... and guess what? They're going to convince more than half the world to agree to this nonsense like it's a good idea... and like sheep.... they will sign in blood on the dotted line.
I'm wearing my tinfoil hat, so try a new gimmick. -
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So really, how do we know it's going to be that? Why doesn't anyone think it's just going to be literally 666 as a club stamp on our hand? (that glows under black lights!)
I've always wondered that. There's so many assumptions based on these visions. There is no definite answer or explanation. To each his own really, and I've been to around 4 different churches, not many and all of them have slightly different interpretations. Why is it he's right or she's right, if it's the bible and the TRUE word of ? , shouldn't we all be right and have the same interpretations?
