Who is a Better Producer Dilla or Kanye?

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phantom0900
phantom0900 Members Posts: 1,313 ✭✭
edited January 2011 in The Face Off Forum
Both are ill, both will be legends. I think Dilla has way more skill and a better ear than Kanye though. When you listen to all the little things, the ambient sounds, the cross fades, the fine tuning of the samples and all those other tiny details, Dilla kills. I think he is a deeper artist than Yeezy. Thoughts?
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  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    phantom0900 wrote: »
    Both are ill, both will be legends. I think Dilla has way more skill and a better ear than Kanye though. When you listen to all the little things, the ambient sounds, the cross fades, the fine tuning of the samples and all those other tiny details, Dilla kills. I think he is a deeper artist than Yeezy. Thoughts?


    you open and closed your own thread with your 1st post
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  • Hatter
    Hatter Members Posts: 2,451 ✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    I gotta go with Dilla, he was more cosistant in dropping hot beats, Kanye has some really bangin production but all his ? doesnt hit all the time.
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  • hnic1978
    hnic1978 Members Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    I gotta go with Ye. Not hating on Dilla cuz Dilla is a legend and a ill as producer. Kanye is more diverse of a producer making tracks for people in hip hop, R&B, pop music, rock. Dilla crafts out good music plain and simple, but he doesn't work with a wide range of people
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  • dwade206
    dwade206 Members Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Draw. It's unfair because Kanye is still growing, and Dilla passed away about 5 years ago. But Dilla is one of the main reasons I appreciated underground Hip-Hop, and Ye has always been able to crossover while making quality music.
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  • Kame
    Kame Members Posts: 24,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Dilla was probably a more graceful sampler, Ye is more clever though (Through the Wire)

    I unno this one is hard to call............

    Ill say ye, but thats because I havent gone through nearly as much dilla's production as I have Kanye's....

    They are probably both legendary producers though..... its kinda like arguing Nas and Jay
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  • 1of1
    1of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    I don't know if any producer's beats can get me in a trance the way Dilla's can. There's some unique quality about many of his beats that just creates a certain feeling. "Ambient sounds" as the OP described is probably what I'm trying to describe.

    Hard decision for me, I really don't know. I know the couple beats that were from Dilla on "Be" (Love Is, It's Your World) definitely stood up to the rest of the beats on that Kanye executive produced album. (Just an example since both of their beats were used on that one album).
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  • BobOblah
    BobOblah Members Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    It's unfair because Kanye is still growing, and Dilla passed away about 5 years ago.
    ..................................................
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  • shtoopid
    shtoopid Members Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    kanye has better sounding albums, but dilla was more skilled
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  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    LOL i was talkin about this exact same topic on twitter this morning. ? always overrate dead ? . Dilla was just another beatmaker before he died. Now he dead and he da GOAT smh.

    Kanye is the best producer ever in hiphop. EVER.
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  • shtoopid
    shtoopid Members Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    kanye
    i like his sound better

    its a bit cleaner

    and kanye started that high pitch singer samplin ?

    popularized, not started
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWPoOlMDZyA
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  • BobOblah
    BobOblah Members Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie wrote: »
    Dilla was just another beatmaker before he died

    No.
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie wrote: »
    Now he dead and he da GOAT smh.

    No one said that except you
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  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    BobOblah wrote: »
    No.



    No one said that except you
    dilla was just another beatmaker. FACT. I never said he da GOAT. You reason nerds did by saying he better than Kanye, who is the GOAT.
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    kanye..

    i think i only like 1 dilla beat ever...
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  • dwade206
    dwade206 Members Posts: 11,558 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie wrote: »
    dilla was just another beatmaker. FACT. I never said he da GOAT. You reason nerds did by saying he better than Kanye, who is the GOAT.

    ...are you dumb enough to not realize what you stated is based on opinion and not fact? Smart/dumb ? strike again.



    anyway, Rest in Beats Dilla
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  • 1of1
    1of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ wrote: »
    kanye..

    i think i only like 1 dilla beat ever...
    LMAO.....

    which one?
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    hole on im bullshittin, i forgot he did some tribe called quest tracks..

    so maybe more like 5-10..
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  • Coo Coo Cal's Beanie
    Coo Coo Cal's Beanie Members Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭
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    dwade206 wrote: »
    ...are you dumb enough to not realize what you stated is based on opinion and not fact? Smart/dumb ? strike again.



    anyway, Rest in Beats Dilla
    damn you right. I forgot Mannie Fresh da GOAT. Then kanye. Fogive me im hungry and waitin on my food to be done.
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  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ wrote: »
    hole on im bullshittin, i forgot he did some tribe called quest tracks..

    so maybe more like 5-10..

    what about the ones he did with Common?

    or maybe Busta? or maybe De La Soul? Keith Murray? Ghostface Killah? Raekwon? Erykah Badu? Dangelo? Bilal?Brand New Heavies? even Janet "Got til It's Gone"
    (oh didn't know he produced that eh well Jammy & Terry pulled a "Puffy" and jacked his ? )

    and surely you nodded your head to the tracks he produced for the Pharcyde and definietly the Roots
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  • a.mann
    a.mann Members Posts: 19,746 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    the only and biggest flaw Dilla had as an producer....?

    He was just to damn humble for his own good.
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  • 1of1
    1of1 Members Posts: 37,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Thelonius >
    Nag Champa >
    The Light >
    It's Your World >
    Music For Life >
    So Far To Go >
    Sun in My Face (Blu) >
    Won't Do >
    Kjay and we out> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYem6K1Vz5s
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Got Till Its Gone is included in the 5-10...
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  • CJ
    CJ Members Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    ye.........................
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  • birdcallaveli
    birdcallaveli Members Posts: 6,508 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    dilla. some of kanyes best production imo is on commons finding forever, and that whole album was kanyes attempt at j dilla beats.
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  • huey
    huey Members Posts: 11,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Right now dilla, but with him being dead and all, kanye has more time to develop. Both are great tho
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  • jackthemack
    jackthemack Members Posts: 11,491 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
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    Dilla entrances the hip hop fan with his production. I can't even call it beats. It's far more than that to me.

    And he goes uncredited A LOT. You'd be surprised what he has produced.
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