Pete Rock defends ole heads in music and explains why newer artist music don’t get no respect ...
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Here what Maino thinks about the new generation of Hip Hop ... Pete Rock vs Maino coming soon
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natural born sinners wrote: »The classic old ? rant. We get about two of these big ones a year. They usually have alot of truths, however can be picked apart. I'll assume he is talking about "mumble" rap. In which case there is alot of truths to what he is saying, as I find alot of it intolerable, however maybe this is REAL rap to these new ? . This IS what they WANT to do and have no desire to do it how the "old heads" did it. Maybe they not concerned w rock n roll induction right now n just wanna make music n get they mom's out the hood. I'm sure alot of "old heads" when they started was not concerned w the rock n roll hall of fame either. Some of that mumble rap sound good in the club and has is place.
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These mumble ? won't let the real emcees breathe in some fresh air. Pete rock is undauntedly one of hip hop's finest. I read 'Don't Sweat The Technique' by Brian Coleman where Pete Rock was highly elated as one of the best producers to ever do it. This ? has more than 90,000 records piled up in crates. Now, What do you call that? A mad sound digger. This codeine syrup knuckle headed rappers need to stay in they ? lanes. Much respect due to the Soul brother #1.
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my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
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hey! new ? ...........
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$tayRichROLLIN wrote: »my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty? -
people seem to think bitterness eradicates clarity and a great point.. if you are invested in something bitterness is a potential symptom... 100% agree
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$tayRichROLLIN wrote: »my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?
To make a recent hit -
$tayRichROLLIN wrote: »my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?
Pete Rock can learn how to #Culture
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blackgod813 wrote: »$tayRichROLLIN wrote: »my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
lol what the hell could pete rock possibly learn from the likes of lil yachty?
To make a recent hit
I'm pretty sure if given the choice even yachty's ? ass would rather have a healthy stack of timeless classics over an already forgotten recent hit. -
That young vs old ? is wack. Let these young ? rock.
They're living in 2 different times, and honestly, there are different motivations within the music.
They rapped because of the art, the new generation is motivated by the money more than the art. Everytime a ? can't get a job, he starts rapping now.
There are true artists out there still, many at the top, or close to the top of the billboard charts. Big Sean is dope, Cole is dope, Krit is dope, I can go on and on...Kendrick, and many others. But the ones that get the finger pointed at em are the ones that treat the music like it's oil country, tryin to strike and get a hit.
Black hands are not the ones pressing the buttons as to who gets promoted, and radio play, and vevo channels and whatnot, so maybe Mr Rock should point his finger in a different direction.
If you're turning on lil yachty or chief keef or a ? like that, and you're looking for substance, you should write a rant to yourself.
Big Krit just made a double album that held weight, Kendrick made an album that held weight. Lots of underground artists made albums that talked up on some real ? , but he chooses to chase one hit wonders off his lawn.
Not to mention, i'm in my mid 30s so I consider myself an OG at this point in my life, I be watchin some award shows like who the ? is that... I'm washed. I would never use my position to talk about how ? up a whole generation is, that's lazy, and some bitter ? , which comes with regrets, or jealousy. I try to wrap my arms around the ones who need guidance and will accept a couple gems. The ones who don't cool, don't. A lot of youngins want to just go their own way, and I'm not mad because I was young too, and I wanted to hold my nuts to show the old heads ahead of me that I could too.
Don't nobody owe pete rock ? . He had his time, he did his thing. They set a standard, but as time changes, so do standards, and motivations. They rappin to get out they situation, not to get 5 mics homie. You can still get traction with substance too. Use that engery to promote that which you think is dope and get off Waka Flocka's ? . -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »Gotta respect the old heads, but some of em bitter as ? . Basic Respect go both ways, if u don't like the music that's a whole nother thing
Actually, no.
You have to earn your elders respect. You can't walk up to your parents, aunts/uncles, or grand parents on some "Respect me off jump" ? 'cause they'll laugh a you and prolly slap the white off your teeth for that. You earn respect and that's precisely what these new rappers haven't done. They don't show and prove like we used to have to do back in the day. They haven't paid their dues at all and want respect from those that already walked in their shoes.
"Now you want respect, aye yo you a fool/everybody wanna rap but they ain't paid dues" - W.C. as Low Profile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE2itsTEEAk
One of the biggest differences between rap and other forms of music is the reverence by the current artists for those that came before them. Pop, rock, jazz, country artists are quick to tell you who their influences were going way back into the early days of music. ? , electronic pioneers Kraftwerk said they were trying to emulate James Brown's funk when they started out. Not these new rappers. Ask one of these new cats if they've ever listened to a Kurtis Blow or Kool Moe Dee song and he'll tell you "naw mah niguh, ioon lissennunuhdem old niguhs." They don't respect the history of hip hop and what it means to music so the older cats in it have no reason to respect them. -
Don't nobody owe pete rock ? . He had his time, he did his thing. They set a standard, but as time changes, so do standards, and motivations. They rappin to get out they situation, not to get 5 mics homie. You can still get traction with substance too. Use that engery to promote that which you think is dope and get off Waka Flocka's ? .
? you think rappers in the the 80's and 90's wasn't rapping to get out of their situations too?
Don't get ? up, they wanted the money and fame also, they just had more artistic integrity than a lot of today's artist.
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MrCrookedLetter wrote: »So I guess according to Pete Rock, all yall old heads did was smoke weed huh?
Gtfoh. Like the Wu Tang wasn't smoking angel dust while having push up contests, Three 6 and UGK were sipping lean, like ? and coke wasn't being smoked by damn near a ? load of rappers in the 80s??
Come on man. Like 80s rappers weren't named after synthetic drugs themselves?
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MrCrookedLetter wrote: »MrCrookedLetter wrote: »So I guess according to Pete Rock, all yall old heads did was smoke weed huh?
Gtfoh. Like the Wu Tang wasn't smoking angel dust while having push up contests, Three 6 and UGK were sipping lean, like ? and coke wasn't being smoked by damn near a ? load of rappers in the 80s??
Come on man. Like 80s rappers weren't named after synthetic drugs themselves?
@old heads yall got nothing to say about this?
Talent and respect. These new ? lack both. Nobody excusing the old ? behavior or drug habits, but them ? was talented. -
Honestly, we just turning into our parents. This new ? is wack to us bc it wasn’t made for our ears. Same thing like your parents that told you that hip hop wasn’t real music bc they were influenced by R&B.
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MrCrookedLetter wrote: »MrCrookedLetter wrote: »So I guess according to Pete Rock, all yall old heads did was smoke weed huh?
Gtfoh. Like the Wu Tang wasn't smoking angel dust while having push up contests, Three 6 and UGK were sipping lean, like ? and coke wasn't being smoked by damn near a ? load of rappers in the 80s??
Come on man. Like 80s rappers weren't named after synthetic drugs themselves?
@old heads yall got nothing to say about this?
While smoking dust Wu made 36 and Forever.
While sipping lean Three 6 and UGK made When the Smoke Clears and Ridin ? .
While on ? and coke in the 80's we got Run-DMC, Raising Hell,King of Rock,Radio,Bigger and Deffer, Paid in Full,It Takes a Nation, and Licensed to Ill.
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First of all, Pete Rock isn't an OG. I can give a lil history of Pete Rock and his place in Hip Hop.
In the mid 80s there were two Black radio stations in New York, 98.7 WRKS and 107.5 WBLS. They both had Hip Hop shows on Friday and Saturday night. (There was also WBAU which was Adelphi University's radio station where Doctor Dre and Ed Lover had a show, The Bomb Squad also had a show on WBAU).
So anyway, there were two main radio stations in NYC, 98.7 had Chuck Chillout on Friday nights and Red Alert on Saturday nights.
107.5 had Mr Magic and Marley Marl on Friday nights. But during the bridge wars Mr Magic was talking a lot of trash over the air, and then KRS bodied Magic and Marley Marl with The Bridge is Over. Mr Magic lost his job and Pete Rock replaced him circa 1988.
In Control Radio Show 11/10/1988 - Pete Rock & Marley Marl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a2bhZr71DI
In Control Radio Show 8/12/1989- Pete Rock & Marley Marl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmD6FNMN48k
In Control Radio Show date unknown - Pete Rock & Marley Marl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfCsP4XBAA
Anyway, I say Pete Rock isn't an OG because he came into the scene in the late 80s. If Pete Rock is an OG, then what would you call somebody who was throwing park jams in the Bronx in the late 70s?
I've heard the phrase "uncle" to refer to people who have been around for a long time but aren't necessarily pioneers. For example, LL Cool J is an uncle, but he's not a pioneer. Snoop calls himself uncle. Luke calls himself uncle.
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That young vs old ? is wack. Let these young ? rock.
They're living in 2 different times, and honestly, there are different motivations within the music.
They rapped because of the art, the new generation is motivated by the money more than the art. Everytime a ? can't get a job, he starts rapping now.
There are true artists out there still, many at the top, or close to the top of the billboard charts. Big Sean is dope, Cole is dope, Krit is dope, I can go on and on...Kendrick, and many others. But the ones that get the finger pointed at em are the ones that treat the music like it's oil country, tryin to strike and get a hit.
Black hands are not the ones pressing the buttons as to who gets promoted, and radio play, and vevo channels and whatnot, so maybe Mr Rock should point his finger in a different direction.
If you're turning on lil yachty or chief keef or a ? like that, and you're looking for substance, you should write a rant to yourself.
Big Krit just made a double album that held weight, Kendrick made an album that held weight. Lots of underground artists made albums that talked up on some real ? , but he chooses to chase one hit wonders off his lawn.
Not to mention, i'm in my mid 30s so I consider myself an OG at this point in my life, I be watchin some award shows like who the ? is that... I'm washed. I would never use my position to talk about how ? up a whole generation is, that's lazy, and some bitter ? , which comes with regrets, or jealousy. I try to wrap my arms around the ones who need guidance and will accept a couple gems. The ones who don't cool, don't. A lot of youngins want to just go their own way, and I'm not mad because I was young too, and I wanted to hold my nuts to show the old heads ahead of me that I could too.
Don't nobody owe pete rock ? . He had his time, he did his thing. They set a standard, but as time changes, so do standards, and motivations. They rappin to get out they situation, not to get 5 mics homie. You can still get traction with substance too. Use that engery to promote that which you think is dope and get off Waka Flocka's ? .
What this guy said. There is good music out there, I don't listen to alot of the ? out there anyways. Lock in on what I think is dope and move on. I don't even know who yachty n uzi vert are. I thought they were the same person for a while. Waka flacka said he gon smack pete rock though, that escalated quickly -
$tayRichROLLIN wrote: »my question to Pete would be instead of talking ? why not embrace the young boy movement and you and them can both learn something. 90s rappers are really arrogant
You can say the same about these new ? too -
First of all, Pete Rock isn't an OG. I can give a lil history of Pete Rock and his place in Hip Hop.
In the mid 80s there were two Black radio stations in New York, 98.7 WRKS and 107.5 WBLS. They both had Hip Hop shows on Friday and Saturday night. (There was also WBAU which was Adelphi University's radio station where Doctor Dre and Ed Lover had a show, The Bomb Squad also had a show on WBAU).
So anyway, there were two main radio stations in NYC, 98.7 had Chuck Chillout on Friday nights and Red Alert on Saturday nights.
107.5 had Mr Magic and Marley Marl on Friday nights. But during the bridge wars Mr Magic was talking a lot of trash over the air, and then KRS bodied Magic and Marley Marl with The Bridge is Over. Mr Magic lost his job and Pete Rock replaced him circa 1988.
In Control Radio Show 11/10/1988 - Pete Rock & Marley Marlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a2bhZr71DI
In Control Radio Show 8/12/1989- Pete Rock & Marley Marlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmD6FNMN48k
In Control Radio Show date unknown - Pete Rock & Marley Marlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfCsP4XBAA
Anyway, I say Pete Rock isn't an OG because he came into the scene in the late 80s. If Pete Rock is an OG, then what would you call somebody who was throwing park jams in the Bronx in the late 70s?
I've heard the phrase "uncle" to refer to people who have been around for a long time but aren't necessarily pioneers. For example, LL Cool J is an uncle, but he's not a pioneer. Snoop calls himself uncle. Luke calls himself uncle.
As a producer, Pete Rock is a pioneer. Pete Rock mastered the remix long before Puffy made a name for doing it. On top of that, Pete Rock is one of the very few producers that could also hold a mic down. Back then you did one or the other, rap or produce; the only exception at the time was EPMD. Pete Rock started out with a name for remixes and he would always submit his remixes in two ways; one with just the original artist and one where he drops a verse on it. Not every remix with him on it was selected by the label but a decent number of them were released.
There are still very few producers that can touch a mic like Pete rock. DJ Quik and Chops are really the only two I can think of outside of EPMD. Pete is an OG as a producer. -
[Anyway, I say Pete Rock isn't an OG because he came into the scene in the late 80s. If Pete Rock is an OG, then what would you call somebody who was throwing park jams in the Bronx in the late 70s?
I've heard the phrase "uncle" to refer to people who have been around for a long time but aren't necessarily pioneers. For example, LL Cool J is an uncle, but he's not a pioneer. Snoop calls himself uncle. Luke calls himself uncle.
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some of These new ? on another wave, wearing skirts, super tight jeans and rocking pink purses and DON'T GIVE TWO ? what anyone thinks about it. Is called attention seeking behavior and is working. Lil wayne fathered these dudes, I blame Wayne (Kanye shrug) oh yea, Kanye had a hand in this ? w the success of 808's. So we need to look at who these dudes were influenced by as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoEWzP3eahU
