JAY-Z: “At this very moment America is way more sexist than they are racist."…
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playmaker88 wrote: »when they are talking about sexism.. they dont even think about your blackasses.. you are not considered.. women across all races experience the sexism/abuse minority women have it worse also.. from within their various ethnic groups then from. cacs many dont see it a some shared struggle..evidenced by the deafening silence that sandra bland to a lesser degree Maxine Waterss/Jemelle Hill to name prominent examples
Nah, king, jamele retweeted an article dissing black men so it's ? her forever according to some IC dudes... -
I am not some "WOKE" dude on women issues, far from it. But I admit that women no matter the situation will get the short end of the stick the majority of the time. That is the way society has been built forever. Christianity literally short changes women as coming from the rib of a man even though women give birth to all. Even that is seen as a punishment.
I will never know how it is to be a woman just like a white person will never know how it is to be me. I am willing to listen and adjust my behavior to a certain extent to make a women feel more comfortable in my presence. Just like race relations, that is all you can truly expect. -
This is a problem that people have across the board say one thing that you may not agree with then people are dead serious about casting aspersions and dismissing them outright.. its ? stupid i mean some people are just stupid and dont even known that ? is dangerous.
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Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »So many of yall ? doing the whitey "stick to sports" shtick and dont even know it
naw ? see jay for what he is which is an opportunist... -
Jigga Warriors running out the bushes now smh
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He's right though. Sexism is something that runs in all the races. Most cultures women are treated as second class citizens. Racism tends to be some white ? against everybody else ? .
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Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »So many of yall ? doing the whitey "stick to sports" shtick and dont even know it
naw ? see jay for what he is which is an opportunist...
Why is opportunist always used negatively? Nobody would be successful if they weren't -
He's right though. Sexism is something that runs in all the races. Most cultures women are treated as second class citizens. Racism tends to be some white ? against everybody else ? .
You've never seen a chinese man be racist towards a black man? Or an indian ? on mexicans? It's not just a white against everybody else ? . It's divide and conquer tactics. -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »So many of yall ? doing the whitey "stick to sports" shtick and dont even know it
naw ? see jay for what he is which is an opportunist...
Why is opportunist always used negatively? Nobody would be successful if they weren't
This is true and the one thing I do give Jay-Z credit on is that he has never denied it. He's admitted it in his music from the beginning. -
You could easily ask a person who is both black and woman how they view what he said, but that would be too much like right. I see where he was trying to go with that statement, although he should have communicated his point more clearly to ensure that it would not be misconstrued (Though I cant say it would have made much of a difference). This is a very complex subject matter that you cannot condense to a reductive statement.
I didn't interpret this as him saying sexism is more damaging than racism. He is claiming that it is more insidious. That is an indisputable fact. We as black people are far quicker to acknowledge racism than sexism. Injustice against black men will typically garner much more sympathy and recognition than that of black women. And by no means is this unique to black people. You would be hard pressed to find a single ethnic group on the planet that is not misogynistic at its core. When they are oppressed, they will fight back as a collective, but they will still oppress their own women. It is a form of injustice that is universally accepted as natural and normal. Even the most enlightened societies still exhibit this. -
Ghostdenithegawd wrote: »So many of yall ? doing the whitey "stick to sports" shtick and dont even know it
Explain. Because if Jay just said sexism is a problem I don't think anyone would disagree. But when he compared sexism to racism then it's s total different argument now. No different than when ? people compare their movement with the civil rights movement etc. -
Honestly, You would have to ask a black woman. We really can't call it.
Seeing the reactions, this is classic 'shoot the messenger'. Y'all going at Jay instead of addressing the context of the statement. -
The fact that people are offended by this only validates his opinion.
Alot of you ? ? got more ? in you than the ? you hate. That's the reason why when women speak on their hardships, you jump at the opportunity to treat them the way white people been treating us for 500+ years. -
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HerbalVaporCapers wrote: »Nobody is getting shot by the cops because of gender
How many people you know getting ? because of their race?He being real disingenuous right now, by taking advantage of the hot topic of the moment. All these accusations coming out, is it really that surprising he's making that statement? Jay a very smart dude, he said it for cool points.
What about the money cash ? 's tho? This dude made a career talking bout how much money he make and how he ? on women, now he's a women's rights advocate. FOH
He needs to be quiet before any skeletons in his own closet start rattling.
You mean like the 21 years worth of music detailing his sexual, criminal, and otherwise exploits that he put out on his own?
Or do you mean like that book by Karrine Superhead Stephans? -
One of the few times I went on LSA (don't ever go there it's a ? cess pool), I saw a thread that asked if it were up to you would you get rid of racism or sexism first. I didn't go through the whole thread, but most of the replies said racism (which is also my answer). Take from that what you will.
However, I feel like it's being lost on ppl (not necessarily on the discussion here, but when I read, hear or partake in this discussion elsewhere) that women also face racism on top of the sexism. And racism a lot of times is only discussed from a black males vs cops pov. -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »One of the few times I went on LSA (don't ever go there it's a ? cess pool), I saw a thread that asked if it were up to you would you get rid of racism or sexism first. I didn't go through the whole thread, but most of the replies said racism (which is also my answer). Take from that what you will.
However, I feel like it's being lost on ppl (not necessarily on the discussion here, but when I read, hear or partake in this discussion elsewhere) that women also face racism on top of the sexism. And racism a lot of times is only discussed from a black males vs cops pov.
Did you know that racism is a product of sexism?
By denying women their humanity and treating them as property, a result of religious culture, the door is opened to treat other men similarly and worse because of what men are capable of physically. -
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Lol @ Black Ken he looks more like Blacula. I'm sure Lil B wasn't amused. -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »It was cool when jay was talkin about kaepernick and meek at his other shows but now ? want him to shut up and stick to rap lol
YES! lol -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »It was cool when jay was talkin about kaepernick and meek at his other shows but now ? want him to shut up and stick to rap lol
YES! lol
? did you buy a ticket? ? you mad about what he saying at HIS show? Lol -
atribecalledgabi wrote: »One of the few times I went on LSA (don't ever go there it's a ? cess pool), I saw a thread that asked if it were up to you would you get rid of racism or sexism first. I didn't go through the whole thread, but most of the replies said racism (which is also my answer). Take from that what you will.
However, I feel like it's being lost on ppl (not necessarily on the discussion here, but when I read, hear or partake in this discussion elsewhere) that women also face racism on top of the sexism. And racism a lot of times is only discussed from a black males vs cops pov.
I don't think sexism carries the same stigma/negative connotations as racism, nor should it. Sexism is a tricky subject because of the relationship between men/women and the presence of double standards. I think the consequences of racism have been harsher so it's easy to say his claim is ridiculous. But sexism has been adopted by men of all races so if we talking volume.....
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He's right though. Sexism is something that runs in all the races. Most cultures women are treated as second class citizens. Racism tends to be some white ? against everybody else ? .
if women are treated as second class citizens how the ? are black men bein treated??!
black men are the highest uneducated/unemployed/prosecuted demographic...
this is where i look sideways at both Jy and Beyonce.. them two muthafuckas are panderers.. they aint about they people.. they aint about the struggle..
Beyonce been on that lesbian/feminism wave from jump.. all that ? is an attack on the black family..
iv stated this on here before that black women have picked up the white woman’s problem.. black men wasnt oppressing black women.. black men were bein oppressed by the same people oppressing them white ? .. WHITE MEN!!
what shouldve been a movement against white men became a cry against ALL men and we aint have ? to do wit that..
im all for women empowerment.. but fight WIT me.. we have the same ? enemy.. dont fight against me or challenge me for rank amd position.. now u got me ? up..
and Jay is fake as ? ..
as a “self made” ? “from the bottom” he should know this country is more classist than anything..
but we have to remember he been the lackey/face for the white establishment for some time now.. they use him to get to us and he’s cashin out off that..
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i got a lil time this morning so if u ? and lesbians wanna go there j got 20$ on the tank!
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<—- 100th post by the way...
