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HundredEyes wrote: »northside7 wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao
Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.
I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.
Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building ? .
Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.
Different times man, Ferguson didn't win ? 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.
Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...
But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....? first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.
Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for ? knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a ? board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.
Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.
Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.
It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position. -
dontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »northside7 wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao
Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.
I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.
Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building ? .
Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.
Different times man, Ferguson didn't win ? 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.
Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...
But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....? first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.
Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for ? knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a ? board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.
Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.
Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.
It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.
All true but thats why times are different. Like northside said, Pep is expected to win the CL..while Jose, Wenger n Fergie werent even expected to win the league let alone the CL when they first started at Porto, Man U n Arsenal...no pressure whatsoever...
Nowadays coaches at Crystal Palace (lol) and Everton are under the same pressure as a Real madrid coach lol. Mofos get sacked with the quickness.
Unlike Wenger n Jose, Pep played top flight footy at Barca and could therefore start his coaching career at Barca B ..and moved on to other clubs with unlimited funds...instead of parking the bus like Fergie used to do and Jose does, he plays total footbal and got people saying its the the best prem team theyve ever seen.
Again, look up Fergies stats...it took him 5 seasons to get things on track and turned into one of the legends in the game...all with unlimited resources at his disposal...started winning less when the likes of Chelsea and later city became high rollers...that's time modern day coaches like Pep won't get...look at Bosz, Tuchel, Koeman etc.
? Koeman is a great example...Fergie wasnt perfect and had some bad phases asswell...the board kept faith in him and gave him time - how it should be imo - while Koeman got sacked...
Wenger is a goat for sure but half of those top 4 finishes were done during an era where (sans the season Blackburn won it) the prem was a two horse race between Arsenal n Man U...plus he didnt spent nothing, he spent wisely, when the markets were different - cheaper - and league lvls werent as different...copped Overmars for example....
when Fergie rebuild a team he splashed the cash aswell...or we acting like he didnt break world transfer fees for Stam n Rio? One of his last signings was Van Persie beating unlimited funds city when Mancini n city really wanted the Persian...
? where the respect for Van Gaal at? He build a team full of youngsters with less resources than Fergies man U, ? with not even half the budget Joses Porto had and won the treble without losing a single match...
Excuze the titangraph lol -
dontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »northside7 wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao
Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.
I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.
Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building ? .
Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.
Different times man, Ferguson didn't win ? 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.
Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...
But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....? first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.
Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for ? knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a ? board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.
Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.
Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.
It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.
straight facts u saying about pep. That Mufuka pep been having money at his disposal for teams. Even when he took over Barcelona, same ? .
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infamous114 wrote: »
Another racista de merda in Mr Griezmann -
Came in to say man u your welcome to griezman
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infamous114 wrote: »
I seriously can't believe this ? !
He will NEVER live this down regardless of any of his coonish black condoning smh -
Valentinez A. Kaiser wrote: »infamous114 wrote: »
I seriously can't believe this ? !
He will NEVER live this down regardless of any of his coonish black condoning smh
Gignac back on the French national team @chgarcia345 @French-Bad-Boy -
blue_london wrote: »Came in to say man u your welcome to griezman
He'll most likely go to Barca unfortunately... -
Social media exposing racists left and right
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Footballers continue to prove they are ignorant and just don't understand what going on with everyday life
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Someone who has Twitter at akala to educate him
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He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down
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where's Evra to "kick racism out of his fellow frenchman"
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blue_london wrote: »He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down
What happened? -
northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down
What happened?
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northside7 wrote: »blue_london wrote: »He deletes his Twitter after saying calm down
What happened?
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You can't tell me he doesn't know any better.
That's a permanent stain on him. -
Jose vs Pep spendingdontdiedontkillanyon wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »northside7 wrote: »HundredEyes wrote: »Fergie was there for a 100 years...Pep did it after a year n a half lmao
Wenger has achieved similar goals in the PL. And he has done more. He already did the second year league win.
I mean let's kick the ballistics. Man City already had world class players throughout the squad and they got unlimited funds. It's not that difficult.
Managers like Wenger and Fergie built Arsenal and United to where they are at now. Pep ain't building ? .
Man City have won the league. The real test is winning the CL.
Different times man, Ferguson didn't win ? 5 seasons straight - didn't even get close to the top 3 - and Man U always had money...fam had time and resources at his disposal and used it, broke transfer fees for defenders on multiple occasions, Fergie was ballin lol...so he had 5 seasons to build while nowadays Pep would have been sacked if he lost his first 5 games man lol.
Wenger is one of the greatest that ever did it regardless of the drought...
But let's not act like the likes of Bergkamp, Ian Wright, Martin Keown etc weren't already at Arsenal when Wenger arrived man. He also started with great players and signed loads of em through the years....? first thing he did was sign Veiera and Anelka lol.
Wenger keeping Arsenal in Champions League competition and in the top 4 for ? knows how many years of spending nothing shouldn't be sniffed it. Any other manager with such a ? board wouldn't have been able to do what he's done.
Jose dragged a no hope Porto team to CL glory. Jose gets the job done: he couldn't care how pretty the football is.
Fergie rebuilt team after team, did the treble and stayed at the top of the game throughout his time at Man Ure.
It's easy for Pep to play the football he wants when he has the unlimited funds cheat code switched on. He had to burn through three goalkeepers alone just to be satisfied with that position.
straight facts u saying about pep. That Mufuka pep been having money at his disposal for teams. Even when he took over Barcelona, same ? .
The full breakdown of money spent and received can be seen below:
*Not including add-ons. Only listing players who were sold or signed for a fee
Manchester United
Manchester United 2016-17 - Total net spend = £99.22m
In – Total spent = 145.3m
Eric Bailly - £30m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan - £26.3m
Paul Pogba - £89m
Out - Total received = £46.08m
Paddy McNair and Donald Love - combined £5.5m
Tyler Blackett - £1.6m
Will Keane - £1m
James Weir - £180,000
Morgan Schneiderlin - £24m
Memphis Depay - £13.8m
Manchester United 2017-18 - Total net spend = £138.3m
In - Total spent = £146m
Victor Lindelof - £31m
Romelu Lukaku - £75m
Nemanja Matic - £40m
Out - Total received = £7.7m
Adnan Januzaj - £7.7m
Guillermo Varela - Undisclosed
Manchester City
Manchester City 2016-17 - Total net spend = £145.15m
In - Total spent = £167.15m
Ilkay Gundogan - £20m
Nolito - £13.8m
Oleksandr Zinchenko - £1.7m
Leroy Sane - £37m
Marlos Moreno - £4.75m
John Stones - £47.5m
Claudio Bravo - £15.4m
Gabriel Jesus - £27m
Out - Total received = £22m
Edin Dzeko - £10.8m
Stevan Jovetic - £12.2m
Seko Fofana - £3.8m
Florian Lejeune - £1.2m
Manchester City 2017-18 - Total net spend = £142.05m
In - Total spent = £198.7m
Bernardo Silva - £43m
Ederson - £34.9m
Kyle Walker - £45m
Danilo - £26.5m
Benjamin Mendy - £49.3m
Out - Total received = £56.65m
Nolito - £7.65m
Aleksandar Kolarov - £5.25m
Kelechi Iheanacho - £25m
Fernando - £4.75m
Samir Nasri - £2m
Wilfried Bony - £12m
https://talksport.com/football/jose-mourinho-v-pep-guardiola-who-has-spent-most-money-they-took-charge-manchester-united -
JOSE MOURINHO'S FULL LIST OF SIGNINGS 2004-2016Chelsea – 2004-05
Paulo Ferreira (Porto) – £13.2m
Mateja Kezman (PSV Eindhoven) – £5.5m
Didier Drogba (Marseille) - £24m
Tiago (Benfica) – £10m
Ricardo Carvalho (Porto) – £19.8m
Alex (PSV Eindhoven) – £5.7m
Nuno Morais (Penafiel) – free
Jiri Jarosik (CSKA Moscow) – £3m
Total: £81.2m
Chelsea – 2005-06
Asier del Horno (Athletic Bilbao) – £8m
Lassana Diarra (Le Havre) – £2m
Shaun Wright-Phillips (Manchester City) – £24m
Michael Essien (Lyon) – £24.4m
Total: £58.4m
Chelsea – 2006-07
Michael Ballack (Bayern Munich) – free
Salomon Kalou (Feyenoord) – £3m
Andriy Shevchenko (AC Milan) – £30m
John Obi Mikel (Lyn Oslo) – £16m
Khalid Boulahrouz (Hamburg) – £9m
Ashley Cole (Arsenal) - £5m + William Gallas
Total: £63m
Chelsea – 2007-08
Claudio Pizarro (Bayern Munich) – free
Tal Ben Haim (Bolton Wanderers) – free
Steve Sidwell (Reading) – free
Florent Malouda (Lyon) – £13.5m
Juliano Belletti (Barcelona) – £3.7m
Total: £17.2m
Chelsea first spell total: £219.8m
Inter Milan – 2008-09
Hernan Crespo (Chelsea) – free
Mancini (Roma) – £10.3m
Luis Jimenez (Ternana) – £4.7m
Sulley Muntari (Portsmouth) – £12.7m
Ricardo Quaresma (Porto) – £14.7m + Pele
Victor Obinna (Chievo) – free
Total: £42.4m
Inter Milan – 2009-10
Diego Milito (Genoa) – £11.6m + Robert Acquafresca + Riccardo Meggiorini
Thiago Motta (Genoa) – £3.6m + Francesco Bozoni + Leonardo Bonucci
Kerlon (Chievo) – free
Lucio (Bayern Munich) – £6.8m
Samuel Eto’o (Barcelona) – £17.2m (transfer included Zlatan Ibrahimovic moving to Barcelona)
Wesley Sneijder (Real Madrid) – £15.5m
Goran Pandev (Lazio) – free
McDonald Mariga (Parma) – £4.3m
Total: £59m
Inter Milan spell total: £101.4m
Real Madrid – 2010-11
Sergio Canales (Racing Santander) – £3.8m
Angel Di Maria (Benfica) – £20.9m
Pedro Leon (Getafe) – £8.4m
Sami Khedira (Stuttgart) – £10m
Ricardo Carvalho (Chelsea) – £6.7m
Mesut Ozil (Werder Bremen) – £12.5m
Total: £62.3m
Real Madrid – 2011-12
Nuri Sahin (Borussia Dortmund) – £8.8m
Hamit Altintop (Bayern Munich) – free
Jose Callejon (Espanyol) – £4.4m
Raphael Varane (Lens) – £8.8m
Fabio Coentrao (Benfica) – £26.5m
Total: £48.5m
Real Madrid – 2012-13
Luka Modric (Tottenham) – £33m
Diego Lopez (Sevilla) – £3.2m
Total: £36.2m
Real Madrid spell total: £147m
Chelsea – 2013-14
Andre Schurrle (Bayern Leverkusen) – £18m
Marco van Ginkel (Vitesse) – £9m
Mark Schwarzer (Fulham) – free
Willian (Anzhi Makhachkala) – £30m
Samuel Eto’o (Anzhi Makhachkala) – free
Kurt Zouma (St Etienne) – £12m
Mo Salah (Basle) – £11m
Total: £80m
Chelsea – 2014-15
Cesc Fabregas (Barcelona) – £30m
Diego Costa (Atletico Madrid) – £35m
Filipe Luis (Atletico Madrid) – £16m
Didier Drogba (Galatasaray) – free
Loic Remy (Queens Park Rangers) – £8m
Juan Cuadrado (Fiorentina) – £27m
Total: £116m
Chelsea – 2015-16
Asmir Begovic (Stoke City) – £8m
Baba Rahman (Augsburg) – £21.7m
Pedro (Barcelona) – £21m
Kenedy (Fluminense) – £6.7m
Papy Djilobodji (Nantes) – £2.2m
Michael Hector (Reading) – £4m
Marco Amelia (free agent) – free
Total: £63.6m
Chelsea second spell total: £259.6m
Manchester United 2016-17
Eric Bailly (Villarreal) – £30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Paris Saint-Germain) – free
Henrikh Mkhitaryan (Borussia Dortmund) – £26m
Paul Pogba (Juventus) – £100m
Total: £156m
Overall total: £883.8m -
northside7 wrote: »You can't tell me he doesn't know any better.
That's a permanent stain on him.
And with all those African close friends he has, and racism clashes in France, dude live in a bubble. This may be his wake up call -
northside7 wrote: »You can't tell me he doesn't know any better.
That's a permanent stain on him.
And with all those African close friends he has, and racism clashes in France, dude live in a bubble. This may be his wake up call
dude lives in madrid
no surprise noone checked him -
