The Respect Israel's Gangsta thread
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Israel is one of the tiniest nations in the world, the size of New Jersey, yet it got away with killing at least 9 Turkish activists who boarded the flotilla trying to aid Palestinians. This is despite the fact Israel has a population of just over 6 million, while Turkey has a powerful army and a nation that has over 72 million people.
Israel is the size of New Jersey and has more companies in the Nasdaq Index than any other nation except the United States.
Israel gets away with stealing water from its Arab neighbors, uses PALESTINIANS to build illegal settlements on PALESTINIAN land, and on top of that, it houses over 1 MILLION Palestinians in what NGOs call the biggest outdoor prison in the world.
The UN has condemned Israel over and over again for its illegal settlement building and for breaking its own peace plans, yet Israel is still going strong. It also has the richest economy in the Middle East.
The blessed nation of Israel is still building illegal settlements, and Obama, the most powerful man in the world, is willing to give Israel high tech fighter jets and money if they stop building settlements for MONTHS!!! MONTHS!!!
North Korea is criticized and harassed by America and many other nations for not signing the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, but Israel hasn't signed it either. It is well known Israel has a large nuclear arsenal, as several former Israeli scientists have said in the past, yet Israel is looked at as an ally to the USA, while NK is looked upon by Americans as an enemy.
Last but not least, Israel is outnumbered by 22 Arab nations, hundreds of millions of Muslims, and they're still chillin. American taxpayers are helping to pay for the concrete and asphalt forming the base of much of the settlements, despite the fact Israel is one of the richest countries in the world.
How can anyone not respect their gangsta? You don't have to respect the country, but their gangsta is incredible.
Israel is the size of New Jersey and has more companies in the Nasdaq Index than any other nation except the United States.
Israel gets away with stealing water from its Arab neighbors, uses PALESTINIANS to build illegal settlements on PALESTINIAN land, and on top of that, it houses over 1 MILLION Palestinians in what NGOs call the biggest outdoor prison in the world.
The UN has condemned Israel over and over again for its illegal settlement building and for breaking its own peace plans, yet Israel is still going strong. It also has the richest economy in the Middle East.
The blessed nation of Israel is still building illegal settlements, and Obama, the most powerful man in the world, is willing to give Israel high tech fighter jets and money if they stop building settlements for MONTHS!!! MONTHS!!!
North Korea is criticized and harassed by America and many other nations for not signing the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty, but Israel hasn't signed it either. It is well known Israel has a large nuclear arsenal, as several former Israeli scientists have said in the past, yet Israel is looked at as an ally to the USA, while NK is looked upon by Americans as an enemy.
Last but not least, Israel is outnumbered by 22 Arab nations, hundreds of millions of Muslims, and they're still chillin. American taxpayers are helping to pay for the concrete and asphalt forming the base of much of the settlements, despite the fact Israel is one of the richest countries in the world.
How can anyone not respect their gangsta? You don't have to respect the country, but their gangsta is incredible.
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Something else funny I saw online today.........
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/u-s-taxpayers-are-paying-for-israel-s-west-bank-occupation-1.324941
Travelers along the "original" West Bank roads, the ones enabling drivers to bypass Palestinian villages, can see signs declaring "USAID from the American People."
The roads are one of the initiatives of the United States Agency for International Development for building infrastructure in underdeveloped countries. Israel has already proudly left the club of developing countries and is not among the clients of USAID. Nevertheless, it appears the Smith family of Illinois is making the occupation a little less expensive for the Cohen family of Petah Tikva.
According to a June 2010 fact sheet on the USAID Internet site, last year American taxpayers funded the paving of 63 kilometers of asphalt roads in the West Bank. It also says completion of a road in the southern part of the West Bank dramatically increased the amount of trade between Dahriya and Beer Sheva.
What the site doesn't say is that a significant segment of the road goes through Area C - the 60 percent of the West Bank under exclusive Israeli civilian and military control and responsibility under the interim agreement of 1995 (the second Oslo agreement ). The agreement states: "Territorial jurisdiction includes land (and ) subsoil."
This is not the only occupation-perpetuating road funded by American money. Dror Etkes, an expert on the settlements, noticed a few days ago USAID workers energetically laying asphalt on two roads in the Samaria region (northern West Bank ) that crosses Area C. Israelis haven't been traveling these roads for years now because the taxpayer (in this case, the Israeli taxpayer ) has already paved separate, wide, modern roads for them.
Etkes wondered how it is possible that the Obama administration, which is vociferously opposed to the continuation of the status quo in the West Bank, continues to subsidize the road for Israel. "If the state of Israel is insisting on continuing to hold on and de facto annex the West Bank," he says, "it should also be allocating the money needed to take care of the infrastructure."
I asked an American official why the administration isn't demanding of Israel that it fulfill its obligations and pay the price of the occupation out of its own pocket.
"Who told you we aren't demanding that?" replied the official. "We are also demanding a construction freeze in the settlements and you know at least as well as anyone else what is happening on the ground."
It is worth mentioning that the when the Palestinians sought permission to pave a short road in Area C to enable access to the planned town of Rawabi, Israel pulled out the Oslo accord and kicked them down the stairs. The USAID tractors don't have access to the area either.
However, when it suits his interest, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a stickler for Oslo. A few days ago he announced that unilaterally declaring a Palestinian state would be considered a violation of the agreement. Tomorrow, incidentally, will mark the eighth anniversary of Foreign Minister Netanyahu's statement on Israel radio that "all the Oslo agreements are null and void."
A USAID spokeswoman responded that the program's infrastructure projects "respond to the needs of the Palestinian people and are implemented in response to requests from the Palestinian Authority. Many of the USAID funded projects cross from one area to another in accordance with the needs of the Palestinian communities and the specific project. There are roads and water pipelines that cross through Area C or are adjacent to Area C as designs require and agreements with Civil Authorities allow."
No way home
The Oslo agreement, which is so close to Netanyahu's heart, also states that both sides see "the West Bank and Gaza Strip territory as a single territorial unit."
Nevertheless, since the outbreak of the second intifada, Israel has cut off almost entirely the connection between these two areas.
Security authorities make a point of expelling Gazans from the West Bank and they do not allow residents of Gaza to reunite with their families in the West Bank.
A year ago, in response to a petition to the High Court of Justice by the Hamoked Center for the Defense of the Individual, the State Prosecutor's Office said the policy does not apply to individuals who took up residence in the West Bank before the year 2000 and "about whom there exists no negative security material."
Be that as it may, during this past year a number of Palestinians have been expelled from the West Bank even though they arrived their prior to the cut-off date, and had no "negative security material" against them. Several have applied to Hamoked for help.
One of them, M.N., 29, went to Gaza in 2004 to participate in the mourning for his father. Since then he has been stuck and is in hiding from Hamas, which has issued an arrest warrant for him.
The coordinator of permits at the Coordination and Liaison Office in the Israel Defense Forces has recommended that M.N.'s request to return to the West Bank be granted. In the opinion appended to the recommendation, the aforementioned response by the prosecutor to the High Court of Justice is cited.
But the High Court of Justice is one thing and the reality is another. The Liaison Office's legal adviser rejected the recommendation and wrote that it is necessary "to be strict about consistency, paying attention to the fact that approving the request might be a precedent for approving similar requests." In another case handled by Hamoked, the adviser wrote that G.J. entered the West Bank in 2000 and should not be expelled under the guidelines. So why has G.J. been sent to Gaza and not allowed back in the West Bank?
"The aforementioned is a bachelor and he has no family connection in Judea and Samaria," was the response. Truly an excellent reason. The time has come for him to find a bride in Ramallah and marry. -
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Isreal has nukes
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I've been telling Black Nationalists for a while........if you ever wanna form a separate nation for blacks in this country........Israel is your model.
Look how they did it:
Mass immigration to create the numbers needed, form a militant infrastructure like the Zionists did pre-1948 (F.O.I type organizations are a starting point), seize the opportunity and forge the country when political chaos sweeps the region (read: when America collapses), create the country with a hard-fought war fought with a rag-tag -but competent- military (Israel had alot of WW2 vets lending expertise, so let's get some more ? learning war tactics in the military), kick the Palestinians out (bulldoze the white people's homes and tell em ? ), win political recognition and powerful allies (hopefully by then there would be powerful African nations sympathetic to our cause), build the country and develop a powerful military. Then get nukes to seal the deal.
Black nationalists need to put their feelings aside and start STUDYING the birth of Israel. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »Israel is the size of New Jersey and has more companies in the Nasdaq Index than any other nation except the United States.
Oh and is there a source for this? Israel has more publicly traded companies than say, Japan? And Great Britain? Really? I smell ducktales.
Nevermind that NASDAQ is the Eli Manning of stock exchanges. -
Swiffness! wrote: »I've been telling Black Nationalists for a while........if you ever wanna form a separate nation for blacks in this country........Israel is your model.
Look how they did it:
Mass immigration to create the numbers needed, form a militant infrastructure like the Zionists did pre-1948 (F.O.I type organizations are a starting point), seize the opportunity and forge the country when political chaos sweeps the region (read: when America collapses), create the country with a hard-fought war fought with a rag-tag -but competent- military (Israel had alot of WW2 vets lending expertise, so let's get some more ? learning war tactics in the military), kick the Palestinians out (bulldoze the white people's homes and tell em ? ), win political recognition and powerful allies (hopefully by then there would be powerful African nations sympathetic to our cause), build the country and develop a powerful military. Then get nukes to seal the deal.
Black nationalists need to put their feelings aside and start STUDYING the birth of Israel.
REAL NATIONALIST POST!!!! ? been tricked into identifying with Palestinians- PERPETUAL VICTIMs -
REAL NATIONALIST POST!!!! ? been tricked into identifying with Palestinians- PERPETUAL VICTIMs
Maybe they have a hangup with the underlying sentiment, that Europeans are inherently superior to those who do not have white skin, that fuels western support of Israel. -
but did they really "get away with it?" they used to have a good relationship with Turkey.kingblaze84 wrote: »Israel is one of the tiniest nations in the world, the size of New Jersey, yet it got away with killing at least 9 Turkish activists who boarded the flotilla trying to aid Palestinians. -
Israel is gangsta. While human rights activists cry about altruism and human suffering and all that, israel stays winning.
But in the long run there are lots of question marks about the utility of this strategy. -
Swiffness! wrote: »I've been telling Black Nationalists for a while........if you ever wanna form a separate nation for blacks in this country........Israel is your model.
Look how they did it:
Mass immigration to create the numbers needed, form a militant infrastructure like the Zionists did pre-1948 (F.O.I type organizations are a starting point), seize the opportunity and forge the country when political chaos sweeps the region (read: when America collapses), create the country with a hard-fought war fought with a rag-tag -but competent- military (Israel had alot of WW2 vets lending expertise, so let's get some more ? learning war tactics in the military), kick the Palestinians out (bulldoze the white people's homes and tell em ? ), win political recognition and powerful allies (hopefully by then there would be powerful African nations sympathetic to our cause), build the country and develop a powerful military. Then get nukes to seal the deal.
Black nationalists need to put their feelings aside and start STUDYING the birth of Israel.
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shootemwon wrote: »Maybe they have a hangup with the underlying sentiment, that Europeans are inherently superior to those who do not have white skin, that fuels western support of Israel.
This is what I was saying about being there...some fundamental facts yalll fail to see. These muthafuckas look alike; aint no ? black vs white or european vs "other" dynamic. The average Israeli and Palestinian are the mixed mutt by product of crusader ? . its more about perceived class than race and its plenty intra-israeli drama on that tip. the west ? with israel because of the technology and strategic geo-political positioning. -
Netanyahu looks pretty crackerish to me. Either way, I think you'll find it's an uphill battle getting black people to relate to those who impose apartheid.
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but did they really "get away with it?" they used to have a good relationship with Turkey.
Yeah but Turkey hasn't retaliated at all. That's like killing 9 members of my family and telling the people who did it, "I am really, REALLY mad at you!"
I understand Israel has big brother USA protecting it, but damn, no retaliation at all? Amazing. The Middle East is powerless against Israel, and it seems they all know it. -
Jonas.dini wrote: »Israel is gangsta. While human rights activists cry about altruism and human suffering and all that, israel stays winning.
But in the long run there are lots of question marks about the utility of this strategy.
Yeah, I truly wonder how long Israel believes they can keep this up. ? off the Middle East on a daily basis can work for only so long.
Than again, Israel's power grows by the year, and there haven't been any suicide bombers there in a long time. Arabs in the region seem to prefer bombing each other. No coincidence Israel feels so invincible right now, and if I were them, I would too. -
This is what I was saying about being there...some fundamental facts yalll fail to see. These muthafuckas look alike; aint no ? black vs white or european vs "other" dynamic. The average Israeli and Palestinian are the mixed mutt by product of crusader ? . its more about perceived class than race and its plenty intra-israeli drama on that tip. the west ? with israel because of the technology and strategic geo-political positioning.
'the west' made Israel. The british/french did that(later 'UN'). It;s a nation of immigrants. People in general hate immigrants, especially immigrants that kick you outta your house/drops cluster bombs/bulldozes your neighborhood every chance it gets.....and lets keep it real, just follow Israeli politics, what was populair? the first president considered the native palestinians non humans and dreamed of a 'greater israel'(hell zionist ideology reeks of facism in general) now populair political sentiment in Israel has always been about getting the palestinians out(Take a look on the map, you will not find palestine), most presidents are straight out discriminating in their speeches and they have always preached intolerace ad violence against the natives of the land....last time when they dropped clusterbombs on children and that ? Peres was told that they did that he replied with 'well they should protect their children better' (with a very denagrating voice) there has never been any tolerance towards non zionist mofos, we have over 60 years of proof of that which is why a lot of people nowadays name zionist israel i the same breath as Apartheid Suid Afrika. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »Yeah, I truly wonder how long Israel believes they can keep this up. ? off the Middle East on a daily basis can work for only so long.
Than again, Israel's power grows by the year, and there haven't been any suicide bombers there in a long time. Arabs in the region seem to prefer bombing each other. No coincidence Israel feels so invincible right now, and if I were them, I would too.
Even during mohammad's time there wasn't any unity. But still it is humanity that unites us, thats why you see irish and palestinians united, this is not arabs vs hebrews this is oppression/occupation vs freedom fighters/independency etc
Israels power is on the decline thank ? and unless they start to mass murder every non jew in Israel right now the future seems bright(cause non-jews in general get more kids than jews, meaning a couple decades from now jews are a minority in israel) -
Even during mohammad's time there wasn't any unity. But still it is humanity that unites us, thats why you see irish and palestinians united, this is not arabs vs hebrews this is oppression/occupation vs freedom fighters/independency etc
Israels power is on the decline thank ? and unless they start to mass murder every non jew in Israel right now the future seems bright(cause non-jews in general get more kids than jews, meaning a couple decades from now jews are a minority in israel)
Israel's power on the decline? Aside from rising Palestinian demographics, can you show me some proof of this? -
Another sign of how gangsta Israel is........
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/22/israeli-soldiers-human-sh_n_786648.html
Israeli Soldiers, Human Shield Users, Avoid Jail After Using Palestinian Boy, 9
Two Israeli soldiers who used a nine-year-old Palestinian boy as a human shield were given suspended sentences and demoted after being convicted of "inappropriate conduct".
The unnamed soldiers, from the Givati Brigade, ordered Majeh Rabah, from the Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood in Gaza City, to check bags for explosives in January 2009, towards the end of Israel's three-week offensive. -
well, they HAVE retaliated. they didn't attack Israel because Israel didn't attack Turkey, but they've done things like refusing to allow Israel to use Turkish airspace for military or training purposes (now the Israelis train over Greece). in the end, if you're Israel it's got to cost you to enrage one of the few countries that you can call an ally.kingblaze84 wrote: »Yeah but Turkey hasn't retaliated at all. That's like killing 9 members of my family and telling the people who did it, "I am really, REALLY mad at you! -
nope, israel is more of a snitch in protective custody (the united states)
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but did they really "get away with it?" they used to have a good relationship with Turkey.
This. Israel was stupid to alienate their one friendly Muslim neighbor. Smart, pragmatic Israelis (Jeffrey Goldberg comes to mind) are very worried about this development. -
well, they HAVE retaliated. they didn't attack Israel because Israel didn't attack Turkey, but they've done things like refusing to allow Israel to use Turkish airspace for military or training purposes (now the Israelis train over Greece). in the end, if you're Israel it's got to cost you to enrage one of the few countries that you can call an ally.
That's as lame a retaliation as I've ever heard. It is a retaliation, true, but a very weak one. I guess Turkey respects Israel's gangsta. -
nope, israel is more of a snitch in protective custody (the united states)
You may have a point here......... -
kingblaze84 wrote: »Israel's power on the decline? Aside from rising Palestinian demographics, can you show me some proof of this?
The only nation that has been keeping Israel for going the international boycot/outcast ala suid afrika route is the USA. 5 + years ago it was 'not done' to adress the fascist nation of Israel, people who did attack Israel on it's policies were considered radical, nowadays people all over the european continent despise Israel and people who back up Israel are considered intolerant/ignorant folks when basically not so long ago this was the other way around. It's populair sentiment to hate on Israel nowadays(which is good obviously)
Look, Israel is becoming more and more a liability to the US. They cannot protect them forever. Once the US is becoming more and more bankrupt and most importantly have found alternative clients/logistic pipleline/trade routes etc they will let Israel fall. This will happen within the next 10 years. -
Princess Jihad wrote: »Israel has supported some of the world's most repressive regimes, including military dictatorships in Chile and Argentina and apartheid South Africa.
Yes infact the first president and his bitchazz cronies of Israel compared the natives of the land to '******s'(send people to observe etc) in the states. They were inspired by south afrikan and the american apartheid regimes, they learned from their systems and applied their own.
a lot of Israeli apologists alwas say that Israel is a western type democracy in the m/e etc but always fail to mention the discriminating policies/filosofies of the Israeli goverment since the day it was founded in 1948.
