Why is Dwight Howard the default defensive player of the year?
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Who the ? is this ? guarding to warrant the award, the award should be going to a wing player imo. I know ? are gonna say he leads the league in rebounds, i would hope so when you're playing against ? ass centers. He is a help defender but who is this dude really shutting down?
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Yes by default, ? who else would you have?
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he has jameer nelson, rashard lewis and VC starting with him and have a top 5 defense. that alone should get him some votes
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Yao Ming(healthy)>>>>>>>>>>>Dwight Howard
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they a top defensive team in the league.....
who plays defense on the perimeter for that team? -
he has jameer nelson, rashard lewis and VC starting with him and have a top 5 defense. that alone should get him some votes
He is a help defender, who is he shutting down individually. I would give the award to Bron, Wallace,Josh Smith,etc over him. -
I would give this years award to Gerald Wallace...but he doesn't get the attention that Howard gets.
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You gassing up bron cause he chasing down blocks. I wouldn't give it to him just based off the last game vs Melo. Wallace? Not Ben Wallace? That was years ago. Josh Smith is a legit contender tho.
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He is a help defender, who is he shutting down individually. I would give the award to Bron, Wallace,Josh Smith,etc over him.
people he's shut down off the top of my head
held david lee to 11 points the other night
held tim duncan to the worst shooting night of his career
held al horford to 4 points and 2 points in 2 diff meetings this year
smith and wallace i understand, but you shittin me with lebron. he's not guarding the opposing teams main perimeter scoring threat for the majority of the game -
LOL @ lebron gettin consideration for defensive player of the year ? of his highlight plays....he isnt a good man defender, dont guard the main threat (we saw what Melo did when that happened) but he is a good shotblocker. Dwight is a good defender, you cant blame him ? he doesnt go up against top flight talent. he still #1 in rebounds and blocks, and no1 else on his team defends but they're a top defensive team in the league. the only other contenders i see for this are Josh Smith and Gerald Wallace
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millz_flybridge wrote: »LOL @ lebron gettin consideration for defensive player of the year ? of his highlight plays....he isnt a good man defender, dont guard the main threat (we saw what Melo did when that happened) but he is a good shotblocker. Dwight is a good defender, you cant blame him ? he doesnt go up against top flight talent. he still #1 in rebounds and blocks, and no1 else on his team defends but they're a top defensive team in the league. the only other contenders i see for this are Josh Smith and Gerald Wallace
fact. i dont see how this myth still has legs. if i'm looking for a guy to chase down rajon rondo on the break, lebron is the guy. if i want somebody to play tough D on a guy for 40 minutes, he's not even the best at that on his own team -
Josh smith should definately get some consideration but the Atlanta hawks are always under the radar so dude doesn't get much love
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? check the stats dwight howard is a beast on D that ? stay blocking plus he never gives up on the play he hustles back to position if they try goin in the lane again
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he has jameer nelson, rashard lewis and VC starting with him and have a top 5 defense. that alone should get him some votes
this is real talk...besides, who else is a better candidate for the award.. -
D Howard is probably the best defensive player in the league but I kinda agree with the threadstarter a little bit. I wanna see some perimeter players get some love with this award... I actually made this thread a while back and here's the list of the winners since 82-83, look at the lack of non-centers/power forwards... no respect for the ? that hounds the rock on the perimeter and disrupts offenses on the wings:
2008-09 NBA Dwight Howard (V) 23 ORL
2007-08 NBA Kevin Garnett (V) 31 BOS
2006-07 NBA Marcus Camby (V) 32 DEN
2005-06 NBA Ben Wallace (V) 31 DET
2004-05 NBA Ben Wallace (V) 30 DET
2003-04 NBA Ron Artest (V) 24 IND
2002-03 NBA Ben Wallace (V) 28 DET
2001-02 NBA Ben Wallace (V) 27 DET
2000-01 NBA Dikembe Mutombo (V) 34 TOT
1999-00 NBA Alonzo Mourning (V) 29 MIA
1998-99 NBA Alonzo Mourning (V) 28 MIA
1997-98 NBA Dikembe Mutombo (V) 31 ATL
1996-97 NBA Dikembe Mutombo (V) 30 ATL
1995-96 NBA Gary Payton (V) 27 SEA
1994-95 NBA Dikembe Mutombo (V) 28 DEN
1993-94 NBA Hakeem Olajuwon (V) 31 HOU
1992-93 NBA Hakeem Olajuwon (V) 30 HOU
1991-92 NBA David Robinson (V) 26 SAS
1990-91 NBA Dennis Rodman (V) 29 DET
1989-90 NBA Dennis Rodman (V) 28 DET
1988-89 NBA Mark Eaton (V) 32 UTA
1987-88 NBA Michael Jordan (V) 24 CHI
1986-87 NBA Michael Cooper (V) 30 LAL
1985-86 NBA Alvin Robertson (V) 23 SAS
1984-85 NBA Mark Eaton (V) 28 UTA
1983-84 NBA Sidney Moncrief 26 MIL
1982-83 NBA Sidney Moncrief 25 MIL -
D Howard is probably the best defensive player in the league but I kinda agree with the threadstarter a little bit. I wanna see some perimeter players get some love with this award... I actually made this thread a while back and here's the list of the winners since 82-83, look at the lack of non-centers/power forwards... no respect for the ? that hounds the rock on the perimeter and disrupts offenses on the wings:
now i can agree with that. its a travesty that shane battier has never made an all defensive 1st team, yet lebron has.
i was thinking artest had more than 1 DPOY. he used to put in work in indy -
now i can agree with that. its a travesty that shane battier has never made an all defensive 1st team, yet lebron has.
i was thinking artest had more than 1 DPOY. he used to put in work in indy
yeah, Artest should have more than 1... And there's a big name on the list thats missing... Scottie ? Pippen... how the hell does he not win this award 1 time????? -
The best players in this league are all wing players (Bron, Melo,Wade,Durant,Kobe,Roy, and so on) for the most part, i don't see Howard going up against top flight players every night. The NBA is stacked as ? right now at the PG,SG,SF positions and definetly the weakest at the center position.
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yeah, Artest should have more than 1... And there's a big name on the list thats missing... Scottie ? Pippen... how the hell does he not win this award 1 time?????
wrong era i guess, hakeem and mutombo dominated the DPOY during that stretch -
The best players in this league are all wing players (Bron, Melo,Wade,Durant,Kobe,Roy, and so on) for the most part, i don't see Howard going up against top flight players every night. The NBA is stacked as ? right now at the PG,SG,SF positions and definetly the weakest at the center position.
yea centers weak as hell but dwight can only go up against those in front of him. he holds his own against the other all star centers and i cant stress enough for many times he has to mop up nelsons/VC's/Shard's fuckups. i get mad watching the game, i know this ? dwight mad lol -
The best players in this league are all wing players (Bron, Melo,Wade,Durant,Kobe,Roy, and so on) for the most part, i don't see Howard going up against top flight players every night. The NBA is stacked as ? right now at the PG,SG,SF positions and definetly the weakest at the center position.
I think pure 7ft'ers are extinct.....SMDH @ Thabeet...Will we ever see another player built like Shaq/Mutumbo/Olajuwon/Robinson? -
will grimey wrote: »I think pure 7ft'ers are extinct.....SMDH @ Thabeet...Will we ever see another player built like Shaq/Mutumbo/Olajuwon/Robinson?
doubt it, because all 7 footers would rather handle the ball and shoot threes than go under the basket and get beat down
its why my man demarcus cousins is gettin a lot of hype now. guys that big that dont dance around the perimeter are rare -
Of course centers are gonna dominate DPOY...Think about Defense and what it means team-wise...Keep the other team from scoring. What's one of the best ways to do that? Have a tall ass dude the disrupts the offense, keeps guards from slashing, and blocking anything in the paint...
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Hey it's whatever, i just think there is this bias for big men when it comes to this award. Perimeter defense is the hardest ? to play especially against good ball handlers, quick players, guys who got good shooting skills and can drive. It ain't that hard to body someone who is playing with their back to you.
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Hey it's whatever, i just think there is this bias for big men when it comes to this award. Perimeter defense is the hardest ? to play especially against good ball handlers, quick players, guys who got good shooting skills and can drive. It ain't that hard to body someone who is playing with their back to you.
I feel ya but right now I just can't think of ANY 1 guard that can shut down everyone....There's no Darelle Revis in the NBA... -
will grimey wrote: »Of course centers are gonna dominate DPOY...Think about Defense and what it means team-wise...Keep the other team from scoring. What's one of the best ways to do that? Have a tall ass dude the disrupts the offense, keeps guards from slashing, and blocking anything in the paint...
thats not what the WHOLE concept of defense is tho ? ... there are some ? on the perimeter that will disrupt your offense(Rondo, CP3, etc), I would just like to see other ? outside of Centers and PFs win the award from time to time...