Israel set to deport tens of thousands of Palestinans from West Bank....again

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kingblaze84
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edited April 2010 in The Social Lounge
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1162075.html

A new military order aimed at preventing infiltration will come into force this week, enabling the deportation of tens of thousands of Palestinians from the West Bank, or their indictment on charges carrying prison terms of up to seven years.

When the order comes into effect, tens of thousands of Palestinians will automatically become criminal offenders liable to be severely punished.

Given the security authorities' actions over the past decade, the first Palestinians likely to be targeted under the new rules will be those whose ID cards bear home addresses in the Gaza Strip - people born in Gaza and their West Bank-born children - or those born in the West Bank or abroad who for various reasons lost their residency status. Also likely to be targeted are foreign-born spouses of Palestinians.
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Until now, Israeli civil courts have occasionally prevented the expulsion of these three groups from the West Bank. The new order, however, puts them under the sole jurisdiction of Israeli military courts.

The new order defines anyone who enters the West Bank illegally as an infiltrator, as well as "a person who is present in the area and does not lawfully hold a permit." The order takes the original 1969 definition of infiltrator to the extreme, as the term originally applied only to those illegally staying in Israel after having passed through countries then classified as enemy states - Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon and Syria.

The order's language is both general and ambiguous, stipulating that the term infiltrator will also be applied to Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, citizens of countries with which Israel has friendly ties (such as the United States) and Israeli citizens, whether Arab or Jewish. All this depends on the judgment of Israel Defense Forces commanders in the field.

The Hamoked Center for the Defense of the Individual was the first Israeli human rights to issue warnings against the order, signed six months ago by then-commander of IDF forces in Judea and Samaria Area Gadi Shamni.

Two weeks ago, Hamoked director Dalia Kerstein sent GOC Central Command Avi Mizrahi a request to delay the order, given "the dramatic change it causes in relation to the human rights of a tremendous number of people."

According to the provisions, "a person is presumed to be an infiltrator if he is present in the area without a document or permit which attest to his lawful presence in the area without reasonable justification." Such documentation, it says, must be "issued by the commander of IDF forces in the Judea and Samaria area or someone acting on his behalf."

The instructions, however, are unclear over whether the permits referred to are those currently in force, or also refer to new permits that military commanders might issue in the future. The provision are also unclear about the status of bearers of West Bank residency cards, and disregards the existence of the Palestinian Authority and the agreements Israel signed with it and the PLO.

The order stipulates that if a commander discovers that an infiltrator has recently entered a given area, he "may order his deportation before 72 hours elapse from the time he is served the written deportation order, provided the infiltrator is deported to the country or area from whence he infiltrated."

The order also allows for criminal proceedings against suspected infiltrators that could produce sentences of up to seven years. Individuals able to prove that they entered the West Bank legally but without permission to remain there will also be tried, on charges carrying a maximum sentence of three years. (According to current Israeli law, illegal residents typically receive one-year sentences.)

The new provision also allow the IDF commander in the area to require that the infiltrator pay for the cost of his own detention, custody and expulsion, up to a total of NIS 7,500.

The fear that Palestinians with Gaza addresses will be the first to be targeted by this order is based on measures that Israel has taken in recent years to curtail their right to live, work, study or even visit the West Bank. These measures violated the Oslo Accords.

According to a decision by the West Bank commander that was not backed by military legislation, since 2007, Palestinians with Gaza addresses must request a permit to stay in the West Bank. Since 2000, they have been defined as illegal sojourners if they have Gaza addresses, as if they were citizens of a foreign state. Many of them have been deported to Gaza, including those born in the West Bank.

Currently, Palestinians need special permits to enter areas near the separation fence, even if their homes are there, and Palestinians have long been barred from the Jordan Valley without special authorization. Until 2009, East Jerusalemites needed permission to enter Area A, territory under full PA control.

Another group expected to be particularly harmed by the new rules are Palestinians who moved to the West Bank under family reunification provisions, which Israel stopped granting for several years.

In 2007, amid a number of Hamoked petitions and as a goodwill gesture to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, tens of thousands of people received Palestinian residency cards. The PA distributed the cards, but Israel had exclusive control over who could receive them. Thousands of Palestinians, however, remained classified as "illegal sojourners," including many who are not citizens of any other country.

The new order is the latest step by the Israeli government in recent years to require permits that limit the freedom of movement and residency previously conferred by Palestinian ID cards. The new regulations are particularly sweeping, allowing for criminal measures and the mass expulsion of people from their homes.

The IDF Spokesman's Office said in response, "The amendments to the order on preventing infiltration, signed by GOC Central Command, were issued as part of a series of manifests, orders and appointments in Judea and Samaria, in Hebrew and Arabic as required, and will be posted in the offices of the Civil Administration and military courts' defense attorneys in Judea and Samaria. The IDF is ready to implement the order, which is not intended to apply to Israelis, but to illegal sojourners in Judea and Samaria."

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  • kingblaze84
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    Any wonder why Israel is the most hated country in the world? The sad thing though, is that Israel is going to get away with this, thanks to the coward, money loving politicians in Congress. Good work Israel, you've just created more terrorists in your own region.....Arabs are just going to love this right here.

    Obama, can you please cut off funding for the terrorist nation known as Israel already?
  • DarcSkies777
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    ^ You are right. But Congress controls funding, Obama just controls policy.....right?

    Also if he ever DARED to say anything truthful about Israel he'd be called a secret Muslim terrorist sympathizer blah blah blah but only this time they will have Biblical "proof" and connect him to the anti-christ. In America anybody who so much as suggest that maybe Israel is too arrogant and oppressive to the Palestinians is called Anti-Semitic and a terrorist sympathizer.

    However, Obama did say that support for Israel will be "Weighed against other interests" recently. That could be thier way of saying "? you" to Obama and trying to force his hand. They cant ? with us so they take it out on the Palestinians and basically dare Obama to do something about it. He wont.
  • Hyde Parke
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    Any wonder why Israel is the most hated country in the world? The sad thing though, is that Israel is going to get away with this, thanks to the coward, money loving politicians in Congress. Good work Israel, you've just created more terrorists in your own region.....Arabs are just going to love this right here.

    Obama, can you please cut off funding for the terrorist nation known as Israel already?



    I agree.


    Pardon my ignorance in advance, i admit, i am just learning more about this. Israel, sounds like they are bullies. Can someone explain to me exactly what is it that Israel wants? Is it the land, power? Or to make these people miserable?
  • Cabana_Da_Don
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    Israel JUST LOVE TO ? WIT PEOPLE.
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ^ You are right. But Congress controls funding, Obama just controls policy.....right?

    Also if he ever DARED to say anything truthful about Israel he'd be called a secret Muslim terrorist sympathizer blah blah blah but only this time they will have Biblical "proof" and connect him to the anti-christ. In America anybody who so much as suggest that maybe Israel is too arrogant and oppressive to the Palestinians is called Anti-Semitic and a terrorist sympathizer.

    However, Obama did say that support for Israel will be "Weighed against other interests" recently. That could be thier way of saying "? you" to Obama and trying to force his hand. They cant ? with us so they take it out on the Palestinians and basically dare Obama to do something about it. He wont.

    I forgot that Congress controls funding, not the President......Obama does seem to be harder on Israel compared to past Presidents, I give him immense credit for that. The sad thing though is, like you said, if he was to press Israel even harder, he would be branded "anti-semitic", a "Muzzie", and the Republican favorite "anti-American". Sad how it seems AIPAC controls our foreign policy in the Middle East, despite the fact Arabs outnumber Jews
    20-1.

    I am encouraged that Obama said America's support for Israel will be weighed against other interests.....hopefully that will include NOT supporting Israel when they decide to bomb to hell Lebanon, Iran, or the Palestinians in the future. We will see just how brave Obama really is in the next coming years.....
  • kingblaze84
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    Hyde Parke wrote: »
    I agree.


    Pardon my ignorance in advance, i admit, i am just learning more about this. Israel, sounds like they are bullies. Can someone explain to me exactly what is it that Israel wants? Is it the land, power? Or to make these people miserable?

    All three!!!!!!! Israel is on a greedy mission to get as much land from the Palestinians as possible, while also withholding water from the Palestinian people. Sick and twisted how Israel has thousands of swimming pools while the Palestinians routinely get their water shut off for most of the day. Israel controls their water supply, as well as their borders and air space.....power is a nice aphrodisiac for the Israelis too, considering how often they like building settlements on land Palestinians want for their future state......

    Oh and heres the funny part.....if the Palestinians declare a state, Israel has threatened to take even more land away from them lol.....what a twisted and evil government Israel has.
  • janklow
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    Also if he ever DARED to say anything truthful about Israel he'd be called a secret Muslim terrorist sympathizer blah blah blah but only this time they will have Biblical "proof" and connect him to the anti-christ.
    well, no one called Jimmy Carter the Antichrist, so at least there's that
  • kingblaze84
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    janklow wrote: »
    well, no one called Jimmy Carter the Antichrist, so at least there's that

    But Obama gets called that.......HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM............

    wonder why.............
  • busayo
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    Israel JUST LOVE TO ? WIT PEOPLE.

    this seems to be the case
  • janklow
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    But Obama gets called that.......HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM............

    wonder why.............
    wait, i recall the reason: Obama = likable. no one likes Jimmy Carter.
  • kingblaze84
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    janklow wrote: »
    wait, i recall the reason: Obama = likable. no one likes Jimmy Carter.

    Obama gets called the Anti-Christ because he's likable, yet Ronald Reagan was likable to most Americans...... but for some interesting reason, Reagan was never called the Anti-Christ............

    VEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYY interesting.......could it be because Obama happens to be black?
  • janklow
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    Obama gets called the Anti-Christ because he's likable, yet Ronald Reagan was likable to most Americans...... but for some interesting reason, Reagan was never called the Anti-Christ............
    really, we're saying that no one ever called Reagan the devil? you never heard the 666 thing about his names? come on, now.

    but seriously, no one likes Jimmy Carter
  • DarcSkies777
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    All three!!!!!!! Israel is on a greedy mission to get as much land from the Palestinians as possible, while also withholding water from the Palestinian people. Sick and twisted how Israel has thousands of swimming pools while the Palestinians routinely get their water shut off for most of the day. Israel controls their water supply, as well as their borders and air space.....power is a nice aphrodisiac for the Israelis too, considering how often they like building settlements on land Palestinians want for their future state......

    Oh and heres the funny part.....if the Palestinians declare a state, Israel has threatened to take even more land away from them lol.....what a twisted and evil government Israel has.
    Which is also why Arafat first rejected thier first offer because they wanted to control the water and also the borders and ALSO be a security force within a sovereign state. But everybody comes down on the Palestinians for rejecting that offer.

    janklow wrote: »
    well, no one called Jimmy Carter the Antichrist, so at least there's that

    They called him everything else though lol