This guy says comic book movies need to go
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that's why i specified in their origin story...
a lot of those movies are formulaic.
act 1: hero having fun thinkin ? is sweet
act 2: introduce villain. hero underestimates it/him/them & gets a reality check
act 3: big showdown. villain defeated.
the end.
i'm not saying they're bad movies. well some of em are...i'm just saying i can see why someone like this author who isn't really into em would feel that way.
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But honestly the majority of those movies just suck
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »that's why i specified in their origin story...
a lot of those movies are formulaic.
act 1: hero having fun thinkin ? is sweet
act 2: introduce villain. hero underestimates it/him/them & gets a reality check
act 3: big showdown. villain defeated.
the end.
i'm not saying they're bad movies. well some of em are...i'm just saying i can see why someone like this author who isn't really into em would feel that way.
If you're going to generalize to that degree you can pretty much characterize any genre in three acts.
Horror
act 1: group of protagonists innocently go about their lives.
act 2: monster/murderer is introduced and kills some of the group
act 3: big showdown. monster/murderer killed.
Romance
act 1: single person is disenfranchised with life
act 2: single person meets unlikely mate and hinjinx ensue
act 3: the two people wind up together against all odds
Crime Drama
act 1: cop at the top of his game thinks everything is cool
act 2: brilliant criminal comes along and changes everything
act 3: cop figures criminal out and overcomes him in their conflict
Yeah, there are good and bad superhero movies like with every drama, but it's silly to oversimplify the movies in an effort to knock the genre. -
Yes, because Archie is the only non-superhero comic book in existence.
uhh... there was casper and Richie rich and both had live action features in theaters. -
Lamilton3000 wrote: »
it was irony there are others
history of violence, road to perdition, ghost world, from hell -
TDK was good but it did have some plot holes.. seen the movie about 20 times that being said... this guy just sounding like a hater
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Needless, Hollywood is willing to be R rated versions of The Batman, Wolverine, a movie with Carnage where Carnage is on his serial killer ? , then I agree, they do need to chill on the genre for a minute. Though I would mind seeing it, I don't the John Q. Public is checking for a Teen Titans or Justice Society projects. Then again, if this was 2003, I could have said that public wasn't checking for an Iron Man, Thor, or Avengers projects either.
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It is ridiculous how many comic movies are coming out now and I actually enjoy a decent amount of them.
I hate the fact that a decent amount of the movies stray far from the damn source material. Some of the movies are getting better but why do these damn writers feel the need to just ignore the comics story lines so much? -
#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »It is ridiculous how many comic movies are coming out now and I actually enjoy a decent amount of them.
I hate the fact that a decent amount of the movies stray far from the damn source material. Some of the movies are getting better but why do these damn writers feel the need to just ignore the comics story lines so much?
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »
If you're going to generalize to that degree you can pretty much characterize any genre in three acts.
Horror
act 1: group of protagonists innocently go about their lives.
act 2: monster/murderer is introduced and kills some of the group
act 3: big showdown. monster/murderer killed.
Romance
act 1: single person is disenfranchised with life
act 2: single person meets unlikely mate and hinjinx ensue
act 3: the two people wind up together against all odds
Crime Drama
act 1: cop at the top of his game thinks everything is cool
act 2: brilliant criminal comes along and changes everything
act 3: cop figures criminal out and overcomes him in their conflict
Yeah, there are good and bad superhero movies like with every drama, but it's silly to oversimplify the movies in an effort to knock the genre.
we not talkin about other genres tho...but since you brought it up, it's a common criticism of horror & romance movies that take those formulaic approaches...why do you think people were all on the conjuring's nuts this year? because it was actually a suspenseful horror story that wasn't gore or torture porn like a bunch of scary movies are now.
but back to superhero movies...notice after the dark knight trilogy these movies are going the 'dark' & serious route. they're starting to follow the same trends because they were successful in other movies. not all of em are like that. kick ass was comedic & amazing spider man wasn't heavy handed with it. but thor, iron man, captain america, man of steel, etc (i'm only naming those because those are the standout superhero movies that i've seen) have taken that serious tone. -
Most comic book characters have different versions and altered origins. Why would you want to watch a movie where you know exactly what's going to happen because you read the comic?#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »It is ridiculous how many comic movies are coming out now and I actually enjoy a decent amount of them.
I hate the fact that a decent amount of the movies stray far from the damn source material. Some of the movies are getting better but why do these damn writers feel the need to just ignore the comics story lines so much?
The studio's goal is to give casual fans as well as ? comic fans a fresh story with subtle nods to the comic books. As long as the core elements of a character are kept in tact and the technical aspects of the universe are respected i.e. vibranium, infinity stones, telekinesis, cities, families, etc. that's all that matters.
An example of ignoring source material is The Last Airbender, where M. Knight Shyamalan decided that firebenders could only manipulate the fire around them as opposed to creating fire like in the tv show. Comic book nerds are the worst when it comes to objectively talking about these movies because they feel like movies should pick a comic storyline and follow it word for word. -
? these ? ass ? . these super hero movies serve its purpose... to entertain. i hate you people a lot.
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How come they don't make any Gambit movies? Or have him appear in the films? Am I missing something? Tired of all the Wolverine movies...
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comicbook fans have been waiting for these movies forever technology has just now caught up thats why these movies are so popular i go out to see everyone that comes out,dont really know what everyone is ? about out of the all the movies that are released every year what do we get maybe 4 or 5 comicbook movies a year you get more ? cartoon movies
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Tyler Perry and Vince Vaughn movies need to go first.
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earth two superman wrote: »Tyler Perry and Vince Vaughn movies need to go first.
Tyler Perry, especially.
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atribecalledgabi wrote: »The Lonious Monk wrote: »
If you're going to generalize to that degree you can pretty much characterize any genre in three acts.
Horror
act 1: group of protagonists innocently go about their lives.
act 2: monster/murderer is introduced and kills some of the group
act 3: big showdown. monster/murderer killed.
Romance
act 1: single person is disenfranchised with life
act 2: single person meets unlikely mate and hinjinx ensue
act 3: the two people wind up together against all odds
Crime Drama
act 1: cop at the top of his game thinks everything is cool
act 2: brilliant criminal comes along and changes everything
act 3: cop figures criminal out and overcomes him in their conflict
Yeah, there are good and bad superhero movies like with every drama, but it's silly to oversimplify the movies in an effort to knock the genre.
we not talkin about other genres tho...but since you brought it up, it's a common criticism of horror & romance movies that take those formulaic approaches...why do you think people were all on the conjuring's nuts this year? because it was actually a suspenseful horror story that wasn't gore or torture porn like a bunch of scary movies are now.
but back to superhero movies...notice after the dark knight trilogy these movies are going the 'dark' & serious route. they're starting to follow the same trends because they were successful in other movies. not all of em are like that. kick ass was comedic & amazing spider man wasn't heavy handed with it. but thor, iron man, captain america, man of steel, etc (i'm only naming those because those are the standout superhero movies that i've seen) have taken that serious tone.
We may not have been talking about other genres, but saying that one genre needs to go away for a fault that exists with all genres is stupid.
And I'm really not sure what you're talking about with your Dark Knight comparison. None of those movies with the exception of Man of Steel has had that dark gritty approach. All the Marvel produced moves have been very tongue in cheek and filled with comedy (or attempts at it). Even Ironman 3 which was the darkest of that trilogy by far was full of goofy ? . I think you're reaching here. -
soul rattler wrote: »
Most comic book characters have different versions and altered origins. Why would you want to watch a movie where you know exactly what's going to happen because you read the comic?#1hiphopjunki3 wrote: »It is ridiculous how many comic movies are coming out now and I actually enjoy a decent amount of them.
I hate the fact that a decent amount of the movies stray far from the damn source material. Some of the movies are getting better but why do these damn writers feel the need to just ignore the comics story lines so much?
The studio's goal is to give casual fans as well as ? comic fans a fresh story with subtle nods to the comic books. As long as the core elements of a character are kept in tact and the technical aspects of the universe are respected i.e. vibranium, infinity stones, telekinesis, cities, families, etc. that's all that matters.
An example of ignoring source material is The Last Airbender, where M. Knight Shyamalan decided that firebenders could only manipulate the fire around them as opposed to creating fire like in the tv show. Comic book nerds are the worst when it comes to objectively talking about these movies because they feel like movies should pick a comic storyline and follow it word for word.
I understand that most comic book characters have different versions and that is a very good point you made. I also understand that some of the writers and directors for the comic book movies want to show there vision or interpretation of the story at hand.
I also some what agree that if the core elements of the character is intact that the story should be okay. These studios seem to mess with a decent amount of key elements for these characters though. I agree that some of the things would be hard or down right silly to try and implement and they should take liberties at not copying the story word for word but changing key things or leaving out key stuff is just dumb
The part where you said why would you watch a movie where you know what exactly is going to happen I can't agree with also. As many remakes, television and popular book adaptations these movie studios pump out a year, there is rarely any movie most of the viewing public doesn't know how the story will end. Not to mention there aren't as many studios, writers or directors that are bold enough to step out of the norm and do a story or movie that doesn't follow the usual wack ass template of what's popular
