Spike Lee goes in about Gentrification in Brooklyn drops Real ish...Long Read

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edited February 2014 in For The Grown & Sexy
colorlines.com/archives/2014/02/spike_lee_gets_real_about_brooklyns_gentrification.html

https://soundcloud.com/daily-intelligencer/spike-lee-on-gentrification

Spike Lee is tired of people making excuses about gentrification. So when someone asked about “looking at it from the other side,” or, in other words, trying to find the positives of gentrification at an event at Brooklyn’s Pratt Institute last night in his native Fort Greene, Lee gave an impassioned defense of his views. Put simply: Gentrification destroys the character of black neighborhoods, and he’s seen it firsthand. Listen.



Here’s the thing: I grew up here in Fort Greene. I grew up here in New York. It’s changed. And why does it take an influx of white New Yorkers in the south Bronx, in Harlem, in Bed Stuy, in Crown Heights for the facilities to get better? The garbage wasn’t picked up every ? ’ day when I was living in 165 Washington Park. P.S. 20 was not good. P.S. 11. Rothschild 294. The police weren’t around. When you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers, three o’clock in the morning on 125th Street, that must tell you something.

[Audience member: And I don’t dispute that … ]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And even more. Let me ? you some more.

[Audience member: Can I talk about something?]

Not yet.

Then comes the ? ’ Christopher Columbus Syndrome. You can’t discover this! We been here. You just can’t come and bogart. There were brothers playing ? ’ African drums in Mount Morris Park for 40 years and now they can’t do it anymore because the new inhabitants said the drums are loud. My father’s a great jazz musician. He bought a house in nineteen-? ’-sixty-eight, and the ? ’ people moved in last year and called the cops on my father. He’s not — he doesn’t even play electric bass! It’s acoustic! We bought the ? ’ house in nineteen-sixty-? ’-eight and now you call the cops? In 2013? Get the ? outta here!

Nah. You can’t do that. You can’t just come in the neighborhood and start bogarting and say, like you’re ? ’ Columbus and ? off the Native Americans. Or what they do in Brazil, what they did to the indigenous people. You have to come with respect. There’s a code. There’s people.

You can’t just — here’s another thing: When Michael Jackson died they wanted to have a party for him in ? ’ Fort Greene Park and all of a sudden the white people in Fort Greene said, “Wait a minute! We can’t have black people having a party for Michael Jackson to celebrate his life. Who’s coming to the neighborhood? They’re gonna leave lots of garbage.” Garbage? Have you seen Fort Greene Park in the morning? It’s like the ? ’ Westminster Dog Show. There’s 20,000 dogs running around. Whoa. So we had to move it to Prospect Park!

I mean, they just move in the neighborhood. You just can’t come in the neighborhood. I’m for democracy and letting everybody live but you gotta have some respect. You can’t just come in when people have a culture that’s been laid down for generations and you come in and now ? gotta change because you’re here? Get the ? outta here. Can’t do that!

And then! [to audience member] Whoa whoa whoa. And then! So you’re talking about the people’s property change? But what about the people who are renting? They can’t afford it anymore! You can’t afford it. People want live in Fort Greene. People wanna live in Clinton Hill. The Lower East Side, they move to Williamsburg, they can’t even afford ? ’, ? ’ Williamsburg now because of ? ’ hipsters. What do they call Bushwick now? What’s the word? [Audience: East Williamsburg]

That’s another thing: ? ’… These real estate ? are changing names! Stuyvestant Heights? 110th to 125th, there’s another name for Harlem. What is it? What? What is it? No, no, not Morningside Heights. There’s a new one. [Audience: SpaHa] What the ? is that? How you changin’ names?

And we had the crystal ball, ? ’ Do the Right Thing with John Savage’s character, when he rolled his bike over Buggin’ Out’s sneaker. I wrote that script in 1988. He was the first one. How you walking around Brooklyn with a Larry Bird jersey on? You can’t do that. Not in Bed Stuy.

So, look, you might say, “Well, there’s more police protection. The public schools are better.” Why are the public schools better? First of all, everybody can’t afford — even if you have money it’s still hard to get your kids into private school. Everybody wants to go to Saint Ann’s — you can’t get into Saint Ann’s. You can’t get into Friends. What’s the other one? In Brooklyn Heights. Packer. If you can’t get your child into there … It’s crazy. There’s a business now where people — you pay — people don’t even have kids yet and they’re taking this course about how to get your kid into private school. I’m not lying! If you can’t get your kid into private school and you’re white here, what’s the next best thing? All right, now we’re gonna go to public schools.

So, why did it take this great influx of white people to get the schools better? Why’s there more police protection in Bed Stuy and Harlem now? Why’s the garbage getting picked up more regularly? We been here!

All right, go ahead. Let’s see you come back to that.
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  • jetlifebih
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  • nujerz84
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    Sadly keeping it real is looked down upon especially in Hollywood and Entertainment
  • Knock_Twice
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    Same exact thing going on down here in New Orleans lol..exact same thing smh..
  • nujerz84
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    Its happening in downtown Jersey City, NJ..all white folks from Hoboken and Manhattan moving there. Looking at me like we strangers...my father and grandfather were part of the first Puerto Ricans to move into Jersey City, NJ in the downtown area ? outta here..Its all white yuppies and hipsters now. Blacks can't even walk thru that area without them getting all scary and suspicious smfh.
  • Knock_Twice
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    taeboo wrote: »
    Same exact thing going on down here in New Orleans lol..exact same thing smh..

    It's happening all over country. White people don't want to live in the burbs anymore.
    I think it's more than them just living not wanting to live in the burbs...they starting to understand the value of the land and the history of these neighborhoods that us blacks use to live in..or still do and they want to be apart of it..
  • S2J
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    gh0st wrote: »
    Spike was on point with that ? .
    Man ? like this has been burning me up for years. I dont even know how to speak on it cuz it gets me so mad. Why arent we doing a better job preserving our historic neighborhoods like owning them stores/bodegas or doing our own trash pick up. I feel like we set ourselves up for this okie doke ?

    And there you go. So who is to blame...the white folk for movin in, or us for not keepin the ? up. I cant speak on the neighborhood Spike SPiekis talkin bout, but 9/10 gentrification occurs in run down areas.

    Now there's plenty of upper middle class, predominantly black neighborhoods that should be a model for something white people couldnt touch: i.e. certain parts of VA beach, VA. PG county, MD is 1 of, if not the, richest counties in America. There's whole neighborhoods there of nothin but black people makin money in 100% black neghborhoods. White poeple aint goin nowhere near that b/ c they dont want to live WITH us. Instead they choose run down areas that they know will eventually be rebuilt and price out the natives.

    So to that we gotta answer the question: whos fault is that? Preserve black neighborhods, yes. But preserve the hood? For what?
  • Knock_Twice
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    gh0st wrote: »
    Spike was on point with that ? .
    Man ? like this has been burning me up for years. I dont even know how to speak on it cuz it gets me so mad. Why arent we doing a better job preserving our historic neighborhoods like owning them stores/bodegas or doing our own trash pick up. I feel like we set ourselves up for this okie doke ?

    Folk I say the same thing...its a discussion/topic that's needed to be understood.. why we just don't understand the value of ourselves and the things we own smh

  • Mr.LV
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    Yeah ? changed thank ? I moved out before gentrification took a hold.
  • CP203
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    Brooklyn been took by hipsters, I just smh when I go to bedstuy and them muthafuckas wanna complain about the west Indian day parade coming down eastern pkwy
  • taeboo
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    taeboo wrote: »
    Same exact thing going on down here in New Orleans lol..exact same thing smh..

    It's happening all over country. White people don't want to live in the burbs anymore.
    I think it's more than them just living not wanting to live in the burbs...they starting to understand the value of the land and the history of these neighborhoods that us blacks use to live in..or still do and they want to be apart of it..

    I don't think most care about the history, but you are spot on about the value of the land. A person can get a place for steal in "up and coming" neighborhood compared to trying to get in established white one.
  • Knock_Twice
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    taeboo wrote: »
    taeboo wrote: »
    Same exact thing going on down here in New Orleans lol..exact same thing smh..

    It's happening all over country. White people don't want to live in the burbs anymore.
    I think it's more than them just living not wanting to live in the burbs...they starting to understand the value of the land and the history of these neighborhoods that us blacks use to live in..or still do and they want to be apart of it..

    I don't think most care about the history, but you are spot on about the value of the land. A person can get a place for steal in "up and coming" neighborhood compared to trying to get in established white one.

    Bingo!!..that's the hidden gem..old white money sees that land and they know the value and they have kids that have to live too 18-28 range so where these kids wanna live..not with their parents so they need to so call go away from the burbs a d guess where they live..and guess how these area are that they wanna live bad..so the parents are like let's fix these areas up and raise the rent..plant trees and move the hood folks out and bam..you have the old hoods looking different now with different ppl living in them

  • blackrain
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    gh0st wrote: »
    Spike was on point with that ? .
    Man ? like this has been burning me up for years. I dont even know how to speak on it cuz it gets me so mad. Why arent we doing a better job preserving our historic neighborhoods like owning them stores/bodegas or doing our own trash pick up. I feel like we set ourselves up for this okie doke ?

    I get ? going through certain parts of DC now for this same ? . In the past 5-10 years some places aren't even recognizable. There's a fish spot on 12th and H in DC and been there for decades now and the new white folks who moved in now complaining about people parking there got it so now you pretty much drive around the block repeatedly or accept if you go there you going to get a parking ticket.
  • Dupac
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    blame the nets
  • LPast
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    Where do people live after they are moved out of the neighborhood?
  • taeboo
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    LPast wrote: »
    Where do people live after they are moved out of the neighborhood?

    I know up here they are moving them out to burbs. Governments are giving these smaller surrounding towns HUD grants to build affordable housing.

  • Copper
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    There was a thread about gentrification last week in Portland.... some posters just didn't get why positive changes by whites weren't necessarily a good thing for blacks
  • gh0st
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    LPast wrote: »
    Where do people live after they are moved out of the neighborhood?

    round here people who own houses and apts in the burbs been applying and getting section 8 approval and then they rent the spot out to low income folks it like a vicious cycle

  • usmarin3
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    Fyi the projects were never meant to be a final stop. I see nothing wrong with gentrification, it's like people love slums. Clean all that shut up, get some aspiration beyond the ghetto, andmove up the economic ladder.
  • usmarin3
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    Smh at people getting mad over ? they dont own. Reevaluate your life!
  • StillFaggyAF
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