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Twitter followers and Youtube views are the most pointless statistics in the world

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  • StillFaggyAFStillFaggyAF Queer LGBT CommunityPosts: 40,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KillaCham.-THE ELITE wrote: »
    Why would those statistics be pointless and why does everything always have to boil down to sales? Views and followers are a good indicator of interest at the least...and interest is important. Not everyone that's interested in something is going to spend money on it.

    And do you not know that artists and labels get paid for their VEVO/YouTube views?

    VEVO pays about $70,000 for every 10 million views. A video hitting 1 billion views = $7 million check from VEVO. Still seem pointless to you?

    .......and how many videos have a billion view

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  • KillaChamKillaCham M0D SQUAD™ Posts: 11,413 Regulator
    edited April 2012
    Black Jerry Maguire wrote: »
    KillaCham.-THE ELITE wrote: »
    Why would those statistics be pointless and why does everything always have to boil down to sales? Views and followers are a good indicator of interest at the least...and interest is important. Not everyone that's interested in something is going to spend money on it.

    And do you not know that artists and labels get paid for their VEVO/YouTube views?

    VEVO pays about $70,000 for every 10 million views. A video hitting 1 billion views = $7 million check from VEVO. Still seem pointless to you?

    .......and how many videos have a billion view
    Zero. But I can name 10 artists with over 1 billion total combined views. Plus plenty music videos have reached 100M-200M, and a few 200M-500M. Top watched is over 700M. Hopefully you're smart enough to divide by 2, 3 or 5 from 1 billion and $7 million.
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  • loch121loch121 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    georgia boi wrote: »
    Co-sign.

    Not only does it not translate into sales, but it's regular folk with millions of Youtube views and Twitter followers. Some people pay for views, and there's probably a way to pay for followers too.
    yeah, but the real players know what numbers are real and which ones are fake.hella ppl pay for twitter followers.That's why MC trap happy boy has 11,000 followers and is "ballin" but you never heard of him
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  • loch121loch121 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    While it may not push albums, it keeps their name out there and keeps the concert dollars coming. People do still like live shows until the holograms take over. It gets you endorsements and allows you to use your presence to negotiate contracts outside of music. Imagine telling your millions of followers that you like mountain dew. It's easier to buy then an album and it can become a statement and a trend just because your popular. It all depends on how you sell yourself in the end.

    Twitter only helps rappers who already have an established fan base it doesn't help the majority of up and coming rappers as much as you would think. Does it bring exposure yes but the buzz is short lived as the twitter world quickly moves on to the next fad. If someone gets a mountain dew contract and tells people to buy mountain dew that will not raise sales that much its just people fucking like mountain dew period.

    Also twitter hurts more arists than it helps. There have been hundreds of celebs and artists that have tweeted something that even their fans think is offensive and then its an outrage and then comes a tweet like "what really guys you're offending by that smh" then more outage then the high profile person has to apologize after people in their camp tell them too.

    I don't care how much "money" people make off twitter if im A&R of an artist im concerned about them having a voice to the world 24/7 especally when there is a drink or joint in their hand. All the money someone can make off social media is worth the risk of having negative press and every day having to respond to trollers that trap them into looking lame.

    All press is good press
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  • ragerage Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who the fuck buys CDs anymore?? "Album" sales are becoming irrelevant by the day. There far more lucrative streams of revenue that dont have to go through a middle man (ie. Record companies). Why wouldnt you want to focus and cultivate those as opposed to just record sales???
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  • MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 Posts: 15,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    loch121 wrote: »
    Monizzle14 wrote: »
    FuriousOne wrote: »
    While it may not push albums, it keeps their name out there and keeps the concert dollars coming. People do still like live shows until the holograms take over. It gets you endorsements and allows you to use your presence to negotiate contracts outside of music. Imagine telling your millions of followers that you like mountain dew. It's easier to buy then an album and it can become a statement and a trend just because your popular. It all depends on how you sell yourself in the end.

    Twitter only helps rappers who already have an established fan base it doesn't help the majority of up and coming rappers as much as you would think. Does it bring exposure yes but the buzz is short lived as the twitter world quickly moves on to the next fad. If someone gets a mountain dew contract and tells people to buy mountain dew that will not raise sales that much its just people fucking like mountain dew period.

    Also twitter hurts more arists than it helps. There have been hundreds of celebs and artists that have tweeted something that even their fans think is offensive and then its an outrage and then comes a tweet like "what really guys you're offending by that smh" then more outage then the high profile person has to apologize after people in their camp tell them too.

    I don't care how much "money" people make off twitter if im A&R of an artist im concerned about them having a voice to the world 24/7 especally when there is a drink or joint in their hand. All the money someone can make off social media is worth the risk of having negative press and every day having to respond to trollers that trap them into looking lame.

    All press is good press

    Tell that to the niggas who made KONY 2012 they went from having all these people ready to protest but because of bad press they couldn't get hardly anyone to their protest this past weekend. Bad press can fuck your shit up. Hell look at nicki right now the bad press from stupid hoe (which got more youtube dislikes than likes) and not this bitch quit twitter and she has lost allot of fans now.
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  • 32DaysOfInfiniti32DaysOfInfiniti Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea followers aint shit less you can call them to action, Soulja boy couldnt even get a quarter of his followers to buy his album lol

    Internet buzz is spineless
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  • BarreGoffBarreGoff Posts: 326 ✭✭
    MC The Rapper wrote: »
    A lot of people in here are stepping outside of their depth. USmarine still mad about J.cole not getting on the hottest mc list haha.
    MC The Rapper wrote: »
    A lot of people in here are stepping outside of their depth. USmarine still mad about J.cole not getting on the hottest mc list haha.

    absolutely agree
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  • LUClENLUClEN Absence makes the heart grow fonder of someone else Posts: 20,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
    exaggeration

    web traffic generates income so these follows, plays, favourites and subscriptions are not meaningless

    Busta Carmichael wrote: »
    The rapper from linkin park would body the dudes in the xxxtentacion cypher
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