Historic deal reached with Iran to limit nuclear program
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kingblaze84 wrote: »And I didn't say America has to be the only nation that can't be involved in world affairs. Of course America can but it can't continue its reputation of being a cowboy in the region.
Gulf states have some legit reason to feel that way but are Shias supposed to just die off? Of course Iran is going to protect them and the minorities who work well with them. I'm not saying Iran is good in everything it does, like in Syria but Saudis and some other Gulf states act like cowboys in their own right. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »Gulf states have some legit reason to feel that way but are Shias supposed to just die off? Of course Iran is going to protect them and the minorities who work well with them. I'm not saying Iran is good in everything it does, like in Syria but Saudis and some other Gulf states act like cowboys in their own right.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »Gulf states have some legit reason to feel that way but are Shias supposed to just die off? Of course Iran is going to protect them and the minorities who work well with them. I'm not saying Iran is good in everything it does, like in Syria but Saudis and some other Gulf states act like cowboys in their own right.
Well most people, including myself, are going to have their biases.....what I do know is American actions in the region, at this current pace, will continue to make problems in the region worse. Many nations around the world have said the same, and that goes for many of the actions of Shia and Sunni nations in the region. One reason I want America to be more hands off in the region, outsiders can't fix it, especially Americans lol.... -
kingblaze84 wrote: »One reason I want America to be more hands off in the region, outsiders can't fix it, especially Americans lol....
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kingblaze84 wrote: »One reason I want America to be more hands off in the region, outsiders can't fix it, especially Americans lol....
I never said Iran's meddling is fine, I just said the region needs to handle Iran for itself if it is that bad. In fact, John Kerry himself yesterday admitted that out of the 6 or so nations that negotiated with Iran, none of them would support a military confrontation. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »I never said Iran's meddling is fine, I just said the region needs to handle Iran for itself if it is that bad.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »I never said Iran's meddling is fine, I just said the region needs to handle Iran for itself if it is that bad.
My last post got deleted but I'll phrase it this way.....
It depends on the help the region is asking for. If it involves more bombings for the pleasure of Saudi Arabia or Israel, then I say no. Saudis and Israelis have enough atrocities on their hands and they've done a lot of it with American weapons and support. Let them find someone else to play their game. -
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--Hmmmm.....all this Iran nuclear weapon talk sounds familiar..... -
kingblaze84 wrote: »My last post got deleted but I'll phrase it this way.....kingblaze84 wrote: »It depends on the help the region is asking for. If it involves more bombings for the pleasure of Saudi Arabia or Israel, then I say no. Saudis and Israelis have enough atrocities on their hands and they've done a lot of it with American weapons and support. Let them find someone else to play their game.
well, the thing is, if the region handles Iran instead of the US, you can still make your "American weapons" complaint. yet typically we blame other nations for their own actions if they use Russian/Chinese/etc hardware. so... -
kingblaze84 wrote: »My last post got deleted but I'll phrase it this way.....kingblaze84 wrote: »It depends on the help the region is asking for. If it involves more bombings for the pleasure of Saudi Arabia or Israel, then I say no. Saudis and Israelis have enough atrocities on their hands and they've done a lot of it with American weapons and support. Let them find someone else to play their game.
well, the thing is, if the region handles Iran instead of the US, you can still make your "American weapons" complaint. yet typically we blame other nations for their own actions if they use Russian/Chinese/etc hardware. so...
In all honesty, I wouldn't care too much if Saudi Arabia and their buddies in Israel bomb Iran with American weapons they ALREADY have, as long as America isn't giving logistical and direct support to any future attack there. America has enough enemies in the region, and Iraq's govt wouldn't be happy about us helping the Saudis or Isra-hell's govt bomb their favorite ally.
Also, I'm sure Europe would be ? . More negatives than positives for America helping the wackjob Saudis and mentally bent Israelis take on Iran. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »In all honesty, I wouldn't care too much if Saudi Arabia and their buddies in Israel bomb Iran with American weapons they ALREADY have, as long as America isn't giving logistical and direct support to any future attack there.
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kingblaze84 wrote: »In all honesty, I wouldn't care too much if Saudi Arabia and their buddies in Israel bomb Iran with American weapons they ALREADY have, as long as America isn't giving logistical and direct support to any future attack there.
I would say it's fairly applied. Have America's adventures and policies in the Middle East been worth the cost and effort? Has it done much, if anything to improve America's standing in the region? Nope, not at all. It's not like these conflicts are paying off the national debt or gaining us popularity. -
kingblaze84 wrote: »I would say it's fairly applied. Have America's adventures and policies in the Middle East been worth the cost and effort?
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So what exactly is the issue here? It seems that anyone who has a problem with this is mainly rooted into religion, stating some sort of prophecy will happen. The other side says that Iran will develop a nuclear weapon.
Question, why haven't they already and what's stopping them regardless of a deal or no deal?