why do so many people call Jay-Z a biter?
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he was paying homage to Big. paying homage doesn't mean biting. I thought this would be common sense.
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Plus, his own flow is foolish.
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Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
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the ironic thing is, the album most people regard as Jigga's best album is Reasonable Doubt, the album with 0 homage lines to Big. He didn't need Big's lines to shine.
This isn't a Biggie hate thread btw. I'm just calling it straight down the line. -
Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
This. -
obnoxiouslyfresh wrote: »Plus, his own flow is foolish.
In Chicago next month. Where should we meet up?
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Busta Carmichael wrote: »obnoxiouslyfresh wrote: »Plus, his own flow is foolish.
In Chicago next month. Where should we meet up?
I see what you did there. this thread isn't worth discussing. -
Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
I remember this. it's from like '05 -
Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
The funny thing is I don't know if it was Jay or somebody else but there was one put together of Cam doing the same thing with just as many "biting" lyrics.... I can't find it no more but I remember I had it on a old mix I made hella years ago -
He payed homage a little too much, he even bit Nas.
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Preach2Teach wrote: »He payed homage a little too much, he even bit Nas.
During the beef at that -
not this ? again..
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Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
The funny thing is I don't know if it was Jay or somebody else but there was one put together of Cam doing the same thing with just as many "biting" lyrics.... I can't find it no more but I remember I had it on a old mix I made hella years ago
That's true. I have the tape. It's on one of the P-cutta street wars that came out in 06. It's called i dont write ? or something
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Here we go
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i9JaBQ-kC5Q -
Preach2Teach wrote: »He payed homage a little too much, he even bit Nas.
How? -
Busta Carmichael wrote: »Cam'ron put together a dissertation on this subject complete with references
https://youtu.be/ybEZF4Vbe3A
The funny thing is I don't know if it was Jay or somebody else but there was one put together of Cam doing the same thing with just as many "biting" lyrics.... I can't find it no more but I remember I had it on a old mix I made hella years ago
That's true. I have the tape. It's on one of the P-cutta street wars that came out in 06. It's called i dont write ? or something
Edit:
Here we go
https://youtube.com/watch?v=i9JaBQ-kC5Q
There it go.....so guess Cam is a biter too now right??? Or we just gonna ignore it lol -
Preach2Teach wrote: »He payed homage a little too much, he even bit Nas.
so there's a limit to how much you should pay homage to someone? he was Biggie's homeboy ffs.
yeah He bit Nas because he was still alive. when it comes to Biggie though, it's a different story.not this ? again..
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Jay z a washed up has been his hardest bars was lines he jacked from big. If biggie was still alive nobody would know who jay z is, jay career didnt take off until big passed away only then was he able to sell records. He swagger jacked bigs flow and style look at how he rapped before Reasonable Doubt which is hot garbage truck juice jigga was rapping all fast like he was a member of bone thugs then he switched to the slower flow and mafia raps jacking bigs delivery and slang.
Biggie >>>jayz
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Biggie was out here talking bout sucking ? and ?
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I always thought biting was taking someone's lyrics or flow and trying to pass it off as yours. Most of the ? that Jay quotes is well known Biggie, Kane,etc lines. Plus how many rappers have used a Jay lyric or flow ranging from Lil Wayne, Game, Lupe,etc.
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Curren$y does the same exact thing (x10) but you never hear the same ? that call Hov a biter say that about Spitta. ? is hypocrites/haters.
They all just dickriding Nas's opinion from ether. You never heard that accusation before that. Just like all of a sudden Em "murdered" Jay on Renegade when in reality they both evenly kilt that track
They would criticize how Jay breathes if they could on some "why Jay gotta breathe all the air with his big nose and big lips". ? ? can't think for themsleves -
There was a version that came out, way longer than this...
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Who says that? Like what type of people. Like thats the type of thing that dont matter. It dont stop him or slow him down. But I would chalk that type thing to "useless chatter" they aint got to listen to his sht if they dont like it. Its like people aint got jobs or lives or...who got time listen to what you like and move on if it aint for you. time spent talkin bout somethin like that is backwards.
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you can tell ? didn't listen to vol.1 in particular city is mine he laid this out in the first verse "there for a world with amnesia won't forget your name"
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Shizlansky wrote: »Biggie was out here talking bout sucking ? and ?
I tell ya what sucks the secondary for the saints. Rex Ryan twin brother defense been ass cheeks lately. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Biggie was out here talking bout sucking ? and ?
this post reminds me of that Fazeem user that used to post here 6-7 years ago.
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the ironic thing is, the album most people regard as Jigga's best album is Reasonable Doubt, the album with 0 homage lines to Big. He didn't need Big's lines to shine.
This isn't a Biggie hate thread btw. I'm just calling it straight down the line.
Thats the thing. RD didnt have shine or luster. It was dull and overlooked. 85% of the ? was watching WB Kids when RD dropped. They fail to believe that the $500 millon dollar land mammal was once just another mafioso east coast rapper trying to fit into Raekwon and Nas lane.
RD didnt do it for him or Rocafella Records. He went to Def Jam under and let Puffy executive produce vol 1 so he can get that jiggy shiny suit sound.
But everybody was a jiggy shiny suit rapper in 97. Lox, Nas, Puffy. This another lane Jay Z merged into too late. He saw what real CEOs like Birdman and Master P doing down south this ? started rapping about Bling Bling, Bounce With Me. Like DMX asked him in 98 "When NY start bouncing?" UGK did him a favor to give him some street cred with real ? and he re records his verse because our ? ? C murdered him on his own ? . Ungrateful ? .
In 2000 after 2 albums the prior year Nas plays the background and releases a crew album based around QB fam. Months later Jay Z does the same ? but instead of being a Beans and Bleek album like he promised he hogs up the stinker but gets outshined by Face and Freeway
Krs 1 releases a album called Blueprint in 1990. I meant Jay Z releases an album called blueprint in 2001
He bit from Master P and Too Short retirement book only to come back like Master P and Too Short
American Wanksta is his biggest lie. This is fantasy drug dealing raps meeting science fiction by warping the fragment of time. After that wack ass Kingdom ? Jay Z jumped on the trap wave that Gucci and Jeezy made popular in 2006-2007. He bit off more than he can chew on this album. He got his dates, duck tales and even POV refrences all mixed up. Once again I will ask you jigga warrior like i did in 09. What ? was smoking/selling ? and hollerin "rock boys" in 1970-1971 Harlem.
WTT was a leech album that not only aged horribly but is the grave marker for Kanye West career. Jay Z rapped about wearing and having swag like Dricky Graham. Shameless ? of his legacy, his friendship and working relationshp with Kanye just to get an album on the charts. WTT sounds so ? dated in 2015
Magna Carta Holy Fail is his ? album. After he saw Nicki, Wayne and Drake successfully cross back and forth between urban and crag charts Jay Z figured he could do the same with that generic euro pop sound. I thought I would never hear Jay Z uninspiringly and lazily belt out the wack ? that he did on Tom Ford then again this is the same ? who made Ghetto Techno