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http://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas/2016/10/06/black-blue-dallasblack-officers-tornbetweenpolice-work-andcommunities-color
Black and blue: Dallas black officers torn between police work, communities of color

Melvin Williams has been called a “? ,” an “uncle Tom,” and a "sell-out n-," all because of his job.

For 10 years, the former Southern Methodist University defensive end has worn another uniform, that of a Dallas police officer.

And in that time, Williams, 35, has had to face what many black cops face — the tension of a life at the intersection of the color line and the thin blue stripe.


Williams is one of nearly 900 black police officers working for DPD. The department, which is 50 percent white, has been led since 2010 by a black man, David Brown, who retired this week.

In a series of frank interviews, Williams and other black officers talked with The Dallas Morning News about their jobs and their lives and about escalating tensions between police and many communities of color over the killings of black men across the country.

It's a difficult and even painful balance they must strike, policing poor black communities where crime is often high and relationships with police start with suspicion and get worse from there.

"When dealing with most African-Americans, they automatically see you as an enemy rather than someone there to help solve a problem," Williams said.

He joined the force because he wanted to help those who could not defend themselves.
But it's not an easy job. And it can be even harder on a black officer, he said.

Sometimes, in black communities, they "view white cops as someone of authority, while we black officers are considered no better than the help," Williams said.

" And ... blacks want you to sympathize with them when they are wrong," he added. "It is tough."


They understand

For some black officers, easing that tension is as simple as saying "just comply."

But many black cops also have a deeper understanding of the frustration that black citizens feel when it comes to the police. They have personally experienced the anxiety that so many black communities describe regarding law enforcement.

Even as cops, they become uneasy when they or their black friends are pulled over.

"I still have apprehension when I'm pulled over in a different city," said lieutenant and watch commander Roy Alston. "That's because I'm a black man being pulled over in a different city.

"We exist in a state right between the two," he said. "Where does our loyalty lie? Does it lie with our community or does it lie with policing?"

Alston, 50, joined the Dallas Police Department in 2003. Seven years later, he earned his doctorate from Walden University with a dissertation on police misconduct.

In it, Alston concluded that "because of misconduct and misdeeds over time, police legitimacy and people's trust of police is getting lower."

He predicted there would come a flash point between black communities and police. "People would say, 'Enough is enough; we have to stand up against the police or even fight the police.' I knew there was going to be an issue of trust in communities of color," Alston said.

Like other officers, Alston sees the atmosphere in Dallas as better than that in other cities around the country. The credit goes, in large part, to a community policing strategy Brown embraced throughout his tenure.

That effort paid off. In early July, protests broke out across the country after the killings of two black men in Baton Rouge and suburban St. Paul.

In Dallas, on the night of July 7, a protest downtown remained calm, with white officers and black protesters even embracing one another.

That changed suddenly when gunman Micah Johnson opened fire, wounding nine officers and killing five. Johnson, a black man, told a police negotiator he was upset about recent killings of black men by police, according to Brown.

Alston said he has not felt compelled to participate in any of the demonstrations "but that doesn't mean that I don't understand it. And that most certainly doesn't mean that I don't understand the historical context and the significance of it."

There have been times in his own career when Alston has felt the need to step in, he said.

"I've been in situations where I had to stop officers from using more force than necessary. And those examples have always been with minorities," he said.

Williams, who works with the department's SWAT team, views the protests from a different angle.

He questions why there isn't more outcry from protesters when gunfire involves two members of the same community.

"Black people are shooting each other every day in this country and nobody is saying anything about it," he said. "This whole movement, Black Lives Matter and all these other people, they give black people a pass for shooting black people. As soon as someone else does it, all of a sudden it adds extra value to a black person's life."


An organizer with Black Lives Matter was recently quoted as saying that "inter-community crime happens in all communities across the country and it is a problem that the movement of Black Lives Matter is focusing on."

Brokering peace

On a recent overtime shift, Williams zipped through the streets of Pleasant Grove, heading directly from one call to another. At one stop, he helped broker inter-generational peace between a quiet, lanky 14-year-old, her mother and the child's grandmother. The dispute began with shouts and anger, and ended with Williams offering up a smile and a handshake.

At another stop, he helped explain to a young mom that allegations of custody violation must be backed up with proper paperwork.

One family was black, the other brown.

Williams acknowledges that his perspective on the increasingly tense police protests has earned him some scorn, both from fellow officers and "random people."

You could hear the angst in his voice when he rattled off the list of slurs sometimes hurled his way.

"When it comes from somebody who is close to me, say a family member, or even a frat brother ... someone I've been close to, it hurts — I'm not going to lie to you, it does," he said. "But from some random person that comes up to me at the gym, when they start to talk to me sideways, I just walk off."

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  • stringer bell
    stringer bell Members Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    What it used to be like

    When Dallas police Lt. Herbert Ashford was patrolling the streets of Dallas south of Interstate 30 in the late 1990s, he "didn't get a sense that somehow the community felt differently about me as a black officer compared to, say, my white counterparts.

    "What they're looking for is help with their situation," said Ashford, 51, now a Watch Commander in Dallas' central business district. "There was not a racial component from my experience as an officer back in the 1980s and '90s."

    Going farther back, he's heard stories from his parents, aunts and uncles "who knew people who were lynched in the South and how things were just crazy back then [with] the racial struggle that they went through ... I've not seen that.

    "Now are there officers that have their own agenda? I can't get into the hearts of other officers. I don't know. I'm not seeing that. It's not overt."

    The kind of discrimination described by Dallas police Lt. Thomas Glover, 58, has more to do with underlying and perhaps subconscious prejudices than KKK-style vendettas.

    He gave what he called a "classic example": In drunken-driving accidents, "if one of the drivers is black, there's that assumption that the person driving ? was black when it wasn't, it was the other race," said Glover, president of the Black Police Association of Greater Dallas, which has been pushing for police reforms.

    "I used to drive an SUV with 22-inch after-market rims," he added. "I probably got stopped a half a dozen times. I've been pulled over for no reason at all by black and white officers, pulling me over just to see who I was. "

    It's in traffic enforcement that latent bias comes out the most, Glover believes.

    That enforcement disparity leaves black officers at the center of a tug-of-war.

    "So co-workers will say, 'You're blue, you're a police officer now. '
    Your community expects you to make a difference and your co-workers expect you to police the community in the same way that they do," he said.

    In March, the black police association took the controversial position of asking the Chief Brown to step down — a black organization publicly dissing a black chief, something that would have been hard to imagine just a decade ago.

    Earlier this month, the association, along with some community groups, pushed for reforms to curb police brutality, including seeking more civilian oversight. Glover said blacks within the department who complain about unequal treatment can pay a price.

    "The people who make the sacrifices, who do the reporting, they don't normally benefit in terms of promotions," he said, counting himself in that group. "Your careers are probably stalled."

    A police department spokesman did not comment on that charge but noted that 54 percent of the department's top command staff is black or Hispanic.

    Coming together

    Dallas police Sgt. Willie Ford is also a member of the Black Police Association.

    One recent Saturday, Ford and other officers volunteered to spend time at a community block party at the low-income Estell Village Apartments in south Oak Cliff.

    The whir of snow cones, flip-flops and blue and purple hair offered residents a good time at a place that has seen its share of shootings and drug-related crimes and the police activity that comes with them.

    On this day, the agenda had more to do with free hot dogs, Cheetos and video games.

    Erica Pickett, a resident since last year, knows there's "bad blood between black people and the police."

    But she said she's teaching her 5-year-old son, Dionte, to "trust the police."

    "I don't want him to grow up not liking the police," she said, as a DJ pumped up the crowd.
    Pickett, who is black, said it helps that the officers who patrol the area look like her.

    "The ones that always patrol here, I know them, they know my family, my dad and my grandmother. They give [Dionte] stickers. We have a good relationship with them, the ones that come over here."

    Ford, 57, began his career with the department patrolling the area around Estell Village. Now he hopes that by fostering relationships within the community, police — especially black officers — can help ease the tension.

    "Historically we've had negative relationships with the police officers," said the Detroit native, speaking of communities of color.

    "Being an African-American male, I do understand the issues that we have to address. We're African-American first and then we're police officers. However, I think you can have a balance in that.

    "When I take my uniform off, I know that I'm ... going to be treated pretty much the same as any other African-American male," Ford said as the crowd, mostly blacks, filed by. "So as a Dallas police supervisor, I try to make people understand that how you treat people is important."
  • Kat
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    7figz wrote: »
    Lost me when he said 'what about Black on Black crime'...

    Why is there no protest ? MF, because they ain't cops... and they don't get away with the ? ? .

    That was the opinion of one officer though.

    Good read..I can imagine that it can't be an easy task to be an upstanding black police officer.

    After watching that black Houston Metro officer beat that homeless man it makes it difficult to view them differently than any other abusive ass cop.
  • Allah_U_Akbar
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    Gosh-? it!

    Stop bashing our boys in blue.
  • Bussy_Getta
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    Honestly I wish there were more black officers. You're never gonna get rid of the police so the best we can do is hopefully have people try to change it from within.

    I ain't joining that ? tho
  • CashmoneyDux
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  • jetlifebih
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    If he isn't challenging the way the Dallas police department disproportionately policing black communities vs other ethnicities or any other unjust practices then he should start there....

    Other than that.......

    I don't want to hear about how hard it is being behind enemy lines with no plans to escape or do anything..we've already established that it is the SYSTEM that needs to be destroyed and a new one built , not remodeled or redecorate ....get out or bust a move....but while you think about that people are dying at the hands of people you sit in roll call with , share field tactics and gear with, and people who may be atheist or another religion but put their hand on a bible and swear in with
  • ChillaDaKilla
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  • iron man1
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    BoyPussy wrote: »
    Honestly I wish there were more black officers. You're never gonna get rid of the police so the best we can do is hopefully have people try to change it from within.

    I ain't joining that ? tho

    Infiltrating the system is one major solution honestly but is going to take serious time to change things.
  • jetlifebih
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    Our brother Freddy gray showed us that infiltrating the system will not work, when you are that invested in the system, it is almost impossible to carry the mindset that is needed to change the system...black all the way from victim to police to da, to defense lawyers, to judge , to mayor and not 1 person got not even a negligence write-up from the institution much less a criminal charge from the judicial system
  • Swiffness!
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    Kat wrote: »
    I can imagine that it can't be an easy task to be an upstanding black police officer.

    Look at the other types of black cops they're stuck between:

    On the one hand, you got black cops that are -and I know the term's been watered down lately- ? , completely submerged in that right wing Trump/Fox News world, convinced that America's GREAT and ergo there is something inherently wrong with black people. This is the cop from Boyz n the Hood. He blames poor black folk for their own plight. If a racist cop harassed him in another city, he would blame "the thugs for making that fine officer angry".

    and on the OTHER hand.....you got street ? with badges. Straight up. Denzel in Training Day. And only the sloppiest ones ever getting caught.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNKvRZFKACI
  • skpjr78
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    ? them sell out ass pigs. they kn ew exactly what they were doing when they made the conscious decision to become an overseer. ? them and that black ass ? who lied on his police report after watching the pig in south carolina murder walter scott. ? them traitor ass ? .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKypkj9Ggpo
    
  • CashmoneyDux
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    What's so difficult about not being racist?
  • kzzl
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    Blue culture (another form of white supremacy) is too blame for whatever conflict these ? believe they're going through. The only thing citizens want is for them to do their job justly, like they are suppose to do. Handing out snow cones don't mean ? when you enable your officers to continue their "misdemeanor murders".
  • Copper
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    All of their arguments were horrible
  • prime_time_willy
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    7figz wrote: »
    Lost me when he said 'what about Black on Black crime'...

    Why is there no protest ? MF, because they ain't cops... and they don't get away with the ? ? .

    The funny part is there has been protest against "Black on Black crime"....The Media just doesn't give a ? because its not as controversial as Blacks protesting police brutality


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    Somebody just posted this ? on Facebook. My reply to that fuckery...

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    Now, show me somebody protesting white on white crime

  • R0mp
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    Can't just idly sit by and let those roles & positions of law enforcement be filled by folks that don't have your best interests at heart.

    If it's a majority black town, take control of your local agencies and establish the culture in them, from top to bottom.

    And that black on black phrase is stupid because most homicides are intraracial; most homicide victims are killed by people that they know and people of their own race.

    What actually is troubling is the number of black homicide victims, and how often blacks are victims of homicide in certain areas.
  • Logical Truths
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    Racism in Texas is real as ? . You have to see it for yourself to truly understand how serious it is to this day.
  • stringer bell
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    R0mp wrote: »
    Can't just idly sit by and let those roles & positions of law enforcement be filled by folks that don't have your best interests at heart.

    If it's a majority black town, take control of your local agencies and establish the culture in them, from top to bottom.

    And that black on black phrase is stupid because most homicides are intraracial; most homicide victims are killed by people that they know and people of their own race.

    What actually is troubling is the number of black homicide victims, and how often blacks are victims of homicide in certain areas.

    Yeah.. That worked real well in Baltimore and Atlanta.. They don't still beat and ? ? in those cities at all...
  • rickmogul
    rickmogul Members Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bet his ain't gon quit tho. Stop ? and report yo fellow " brothers" who keep up the ? ? .
  • Brother_Five
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    Policing as an institution has always been evil and corrupt
    Always
    U joined up with a gang and wonder why ppl don't ? with u?
    Eat a whole ?

    I'm not saying blacks shouldn't be cops
    I'm saying they shouldn't be crying about being called names
    Change the system or shut your ? ass up
  • CapitalB
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    reading the comments and im jus tryin to figure out why we mad at the police fir what they do vs those who allow them to do it!!?

    i got two rottweilers..
    if they attack u who u go sue!? come after?? or whatever!!?

    u jus go be mad at the dog and thats the end of it!!?
  • skpjr78
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    https://youtu.be/KPHv_-fqdjM