'DJ Premier Explains The Notorious B.I.G.'s "Kick In The Door" Disses'

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  • water ur seeds
    water ur seeds Members Posts: 17,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yo is it me or does Premo sound more like The DOC these days??? lol
  • Ear2DaSt
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    edited August 2017
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    So Big was going at Rae an Ghost .......
  • Ear2DaSt
    Ear2DaSt Members Posts: 10,480 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I aint gonna lie I didn't know

    If it wasn't a beef that got covered like Pac & Biggie
    Bone & juicy j and them

    I don't know the back story I don't know if Rae and them responded

    Im not from NYC and I aint digging for info and mainstream rappers

    there are people that know every detail of a rappers life not me

    the internet is east coast bias so they all up NYC butt

    but if it was something i should of known my bad it's plenty of ? i don't know

    those are more for insiders and those connected with the industry

    ? i might of heard of the beef before but done forgot cuz it wasn't nothing
  • water ur seeds
    water ur seeds Members Posts: 17,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017
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    Y'all telling me y'all didn't know he was dissing jeru, rae,ghost and Nas?

    Did u start listening to hip hop in 2013?

    Dude you know Ima hip hop head from day, I knew he was dissing everyone else like OGC etc but not Jeru... Or maybe I did and I forgot haha
  • Built 4 cuban linx
    Built 4 cuban linx Members Posts: 12,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2017
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    Alot of people like to think he was only beefing with pac, big had beef with damn near half the industry
  • water ur seeds
    water ur seeds Members Posts: 17,667 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    I KNEW IT WAS A JERU DISS AS SOON AS BIG SAID "SON IM SURPRISED YOU RUN WITH THEM."

    That was a slick line, I thought that line could of been aimed at daum near anyone given the nature of the song and the amount of cats he was going at:

    'This goes out to you, this goes out to you, and you, and you, and you, this goes out to you, this goes out to you, this goes out to you, and you, and you'
  • clairvoyance
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    I KNEW IT WAS A JERU DISS AS SOON AS BIG SAID "SON IM SURPRISED YOU RUN WITH THEM."

    I think I recall NAS saying in a Complex interview that line was about him being cool with RAE & GHOST. And "your careers short like leprechauns" was about him too....

  • *~queenbee~*
    *~queenbee~* Members Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For victory, I also think "your fam, destiny lays in my hands" was for nas. I could be reaching IDK
    Yes, you're reaching for the stars with that one.
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    313 wayz wrote: »
    Big's reply from "Kick In The Door" back to Raekwon's subliminal from "Ice Water"
    This goes out for those that choose to use
    Disrespectful views on the King of NY
    ? that, why try, throw bleach in your eye
    Now ya brailling it, snatch that light ? , I’m scaling it

    Raekwons bars from "Ice Water"
    That's life, to top it all off, beef with White
    Pulling bleach out trying to throw it in my eyesight


    Big's reply from "Victory" back to Ghost's subliminal from "Criminology"
    Militant, y'all ? ain't killin ?
    Ooops Cristal keep spillin ? ; you overdid it homes

    Ghost's bars from "Criminology"
    Extravagant, RZA bake the track and it's militant
    Then I react, like a convict, and start killing ?

    I'm pretty sure that Rae line is "beef with wife." It was a reference back in the day to a couple cases where women got arrested for throwing bleach in their husbands' faces. I don't think the Wu were throwing any subliminals at Big in their lyrics. Big's shots at Rae and Ghost were almost certainly a response to the Shark ? skit.
  • *~queenbee~*
    *~queenbee~* Members Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For victory, I also think "your fam, destiny lays in my hands" was for nas. I could be reaching IDK
    Yes, you're reaching for the stars with that one.

    The ? up
    Girl, why are you in your feelings this early in the morning? It's not that serious, boo boo!
  • 5 Grand
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    When you listen to Big's last freestyle on the Wake Up Show it sounds like "You'r reign on the top was short like leprechauns" was going at Tupac. Because he said the verse from You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills You, then his next line was, "You'r reign on the top was short like leprechauns"
  • natural born sinners
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    Alot of people like to think he was only beefing with pac, big had beef with damn near half the industry

    That's what happens to mostly every rapper when get to the top. Maybe not just rappers, seems to happen in alot of different industries
  • natural born sinners
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    313 wayz wrote: »
    Big's reply from "Kick In The Door" back to Raekwon's subliminal from "Ice Water"
    This goes out for those that choose to use
    Disrespectful views on the King of NY
    ? that, why try, throw bleach in your eye
    Now ya brailling it, snatch that light ? , I’m scaling it

    Raekwons bars from "Ice Water"
    That's life, to top it all off, beef with White
    Pulling bleach out trying to throw it in my eyesight


    Big's reply from "Victory" back to Ghost's subliminal from "Criminology"
    Militant, y'all ? ain't killin ?
    Ooops Cristal keep spillin ? ; you overdid it homes

    Ghost's bars from "Criminology"
    Extravagant, RZA bake the track and it's militant
    Then I react, like a convict, and start killing ?

    I knew he was going at bad and Jeri, but not rae n ghost...good ? btw. Thanks for the breakdown. You sir get a Goat
  • Broddie
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    THE_R_ wrote: »
    I KNEW IT WAS A JERU DISS AS SOON AS BIG SAID "SON IM SURPRISED YOU RUN WITH THEM."

    Yeah that was the dead giveaway and then Premo confirmed it in XXL like 10 yrs ago when they did a LAD retrospective.
  • its....JOHN B
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    For victory, I also think "your fam, destiny lays in my hands" was for nas. I could be reaching IDK

    Lol at anyone nosigning this, that's one of the goat subliminal lines