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I think J Dilla is overrated
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I always believed Big Pun had a better flow and better delivery than BIG
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I'm much older than your much older homies (i was 26-28 during those years 95-97) so I was old enough to not just be a fan boy like most teenagers. I was a grown ass man and the truth is Big wasn't as 'Big' as every young person these days think. The truth is Pac was more popular but on the real hardly anyone considered either of them the GOAT until after they died. People liked them a lot, but before they died the GOAT debate was between Krs-One, Rakim, LL, Kane. When Pac and Big died people got more all in and they blew up.
Yall aint gotta beleive it. But it's hard for a old head like me to sit back and listen to young heads talking about stuff they really weren't old enough to know for fact first hand. Most of the opinions the young heads have are based on stuff they heard or read. I'm Puff's age so I was in my prime hip-hop age at that time to know. Yeah Big was dope and had those hits out but the truth is there were a lot of dope MCs around that era. But the moment they died they became legends because that was the first time beef lead to killings like that in hip-hop. I did know some NY dudes that were on BIG like that but not as many outside of NY as people think. The rest of the country was still on that G-Funk era music and other dope artists like Outkast
How they credit Big for bring back the eastcoast when at that time Wu and Nas was out there ripping ? up at that time?
Cuz he made it Relevant gain...............WHen he First Dropped that Was the First NY artist that Sold here in a while............NaS and Wu tang Didnt really Sell to Crazy,...............BIG's 2nd album went diamond, that open the door for Bad boy, CNN, Ruff Ryders, Roc-a-fella hell even TS tto make they run in the Game -
phrostface wrote: »[weezy]I'm goin' in...[/weezy]
Someone ghostwrites for Jeezy
Pac would have run or would be running for political office now if he were still alive
Jay-Z and Big would have had beef at some point were Big to have lived longer
Under different circumstances growing up, Nas would have had several NY Times best seller fictions published
Black Thought is in fact one of the most slept on MC's in the game
Weezy is the best spittin in the game now, top 10 of all time
old school should get credit the same way you respect edison and tesla for bringing about electricity, but your its iphone and google that bring a whole new level of functionality to your life
some artists take pleasure in being 'knowingly ignorant' (see plies, waka flocka, gucci, etc.)
BP3 > BP
while we're at it American Gangster and BP3 are in Jay-Z's Top 5 albums
eminem isn't as lyrically potent as he used to be
the west has a lyricism complex
more women than not secretly'd like to experience being a video chick (kind of how some chicks would want to have a menage with 2 dudes but never admit it openly for the fear of being stigmatized as a ? )
nicki minaj, at this stage in her career, seems to be more on top of her business than any female MC to have come along
while we're at it, lyrically Nicki Minaj is one of the better female MC's to have been released commercially
B.o.B. secretly encourages the comparisons to 3 stacks
Lupe is overrated
Drake tries too hard
J. Cole is the closest ever to having a pre-illmatic Nas type buzz ever in the game (and I mean it in the sense that if you take the percentage of 'early adopters' to people listening to hip-hop for Nas and J. Cole at the same points in their career, the numbers would be strikingly similar)
Detox isn't taking too long cause Dre wants it 'perfect', Detox is taking long cause Dre is lazy...and he can afford to be
Jay-Z will run for political office in the next 10 years.
Statements like this................is why the game is ? Up............Smh @ these silly ? Statements -
Albums I've never even listened to:
Reasonable Doubt, BP 1, AG
Ready To Die
anything by G Rap, Rakim, Mobb Deep, Tribe, Talib, TI, Slick Rick, KRS, Kane, Lupe, Lox
Wu-Tang is way overrated
I'll never be a fan of a female rapper, just the occasional song -
-lil wayne's work ethic made him who he is, honestly he is not a great lyricist
-all conscious rappers r not dope
-drake is ok at best
-cam'ron is dope if u listen closely 2 wut he says
-t.i. Can spit, but he puts out some boring albums
-tupac, biggie, big l, jay-z, nas, big pun's names should not b mentioned, they r all truly legends
-50 cent is a hit & miss type of rapper
-if you listen to early ugk albums, bun b is a top 10 lyricist
-not every ? out of new york is dope
-not every ? out of tha south is wack -
Bug L aint a legend
neither is Pun
? only praised cuz they died before they could have a good career -
MAKAVELI25 wrote: »Lol, bout to stir up some drama in this ? :
1. If Orlando Anderson was responsible, then Pac brought it upon himself. He had no business going up and stomping that dude out like that because the ? had nothing to do with him. When you mess with a G, then expect G-style retaliation. Pac was a brilliant dude, if you listen to some of his interviews you can see how unique and intelligent he was, but when you see some of the ? he did you just gotta shake your head.
2. 50 Cent never fell off, he has improved in lyrical skill since GRODT. It's just that nobody cares about his story anymore. The Massacre was a solid album, better than the GRODT
3. Jeezy is not a good rapper. Let's be honest here, ? picks the best beats and apart from Rick Ross there is nobody that I play more in my car, but if he wasn't so adept at picking beats, he would lose at least half his fanbase.
4. White rappers do get more hype. Not talking bout Em, dude is crazy talented, but we would never have heard about Asher Roth or this new dude Sam Adams if they were black
5. Nas may be one of the best lyricists in the game, but he is one of the worst beat pickers ever, and he is not very charismatic
The reason for stomping out Orlando Anderson is because Puffy was offering money like 10g's or sumfin to anyone who snatched A Death Row pendant, and Orlando was apparently one of the dudes that did just that, so they stomped him out for jackin A Death Row chain... -
Albums I've never even listened to:
Reasonable Doubt, BP 1, AG
Ready To Die
anything by G Rap, Rakim, Mobb Deep, Tribe, Talib, TI, Slick Rick, KRS, Kane, Lupe, Lox
Wu-Tang is way overrated
I'll never be a fan of a female rapper, just the occasional song
Are you serious!!! lmao Youve NEVER listen to any of them albums??? And never listen to ANY of them artists??? In that case you may aswel just not listen to hip hop lmao Are you joking??? -
water ur seeds wrote: »The reason for stomping out Orlando Anderson is because Puffy was offering money like 10g's or sumfin to anyone who snatched A Death Row pendant, and Orlando was apparently one of the dudes that did just that, so they stomped him out for jackin A Death Row chain...
Na, it had nothing to do with Puffy. Anderson and some of his goons had robbed a Death Row dude at a shoe store a couple of weeks previously because he was in a rival gang. Pac was not a gang member, I think he was just trying to show he could ride with the toughest and good killed because of it -
Cam'ron= Legend
Juelz= Dope at times
Gorilla Zoe= Dope and underrated -
MAKAVELI25 wrote: »Na, it had nothing to do with Puffy. Anderson and some of his goons had robbed a Death Row dude at a shoe store a couple of weeks previously because he was in a rival gang. Pac was not a gang member, I think he was just trying to show he could ride with the toughest and good killed because of it
he jacked the death row dude's (travis lane) chain at lakewood mall, death row chains where getting jacked coz puffy was giving out 10gs for every death row chain handed in to badboy
ands its no surprise that badboy had crips on the payroll, and orlando and the people jacking death row pendants where also crips -
Another truth, I known it sounds really sexist and I kind of feel bad for saying it: No unnatractive female rapper is ever going to have long-term success.
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DOOMposter wrote: »most people posting here dont know what hip hop is
Black Thought is one of the most overlooked EMCEES
black thought,talib kweli,Krs-ONe,Rakim,Nas,Jay-z,2-Pac,Big,Slick Rick,Run DMC=TRUE MEANING of what a EMCEE IS
Follow The Leader is better then Paid In Full
The Roots are still ahead of their time
Young Money is good in theory but wont last(Drake sucks Wayne is getting old)
Slaughterhouse will continue to make great music
if you havent heard of Skillz you dont know hip hop
Supernatural is the ? to
Rahzel and Dogie E Fresh=Best Beatboxers ever
EPMD=Classic
Wu-Tang is FOREVER
J DIlla died WAY TO SOON
same with PUN
NOREAGA is OVERLOOKED N.O.R.E is a CLASSIC album
NAS cant write a bad song
Q-Tip is just AMAZING
Charles Hamilton, Asher Roth, Wale, B.o.B,Wiz Khalifa , Curren$y,Joell Ortiz,Lupe Fiasco=PROOF that HIP HOP will survive<<<FORGOT to add Jay Electronica aswell as MF DOOM(dudes been here for a minute though)
RAEKWON-O.B.4.C.L.2 is the ?
REDMAN is NJ Joe Budden is 2nd
Crooked I is the West Kept IMO
Theres my 2 cents for now...oh yeah MF DOOM is more then most can handle
For some reason i couldnt get back into my account that was my 2 cents and i still stand by it -
South>>>>>>>>
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Gucci>>>New NY artists
Southern beats>>>any other region
Wayne>>>>NY
Wayne is top 5 MC
KRS succs -
dudes just be tryna get a reaction.
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A great rapper equates to Song quality and Lyrics....Not one or the other
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A great rapper equates to Song quality and Lyrics....Not one or the other
as well as good production and enjoyable music -
Thats The Dumbest ? Ive Ever Heardflushill401 wrote: »Outside of Luda, Young Buck, Outkast and T.I. the whole down south is nothing but banging beats and wack lyrics. -
Nas made 3-4 disses to Jays one verse on Takeover directed at nas...then super ugly...facts trump dozens...i was ? yo ? is always powerful...
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Raekwons only 2 good albums say guest starring Tony Starks...cooincidence, i think not...
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Underground NY hip hop better then mainstream NY hip hop
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Wyclef and will.i.am are the two most talented and under-rated (triple-threat) artists in hip-hop. Period.
