Rewriting Evolution ~ Darwin was wrong

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  • Drew_Ali
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    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??

    Yes......

    Perfect wrote: »
    Explain why you quoted me with the video please Drew. I'm high and I'm here to learn

    I thought you were refuting the vid.......

    If so refer to my previous post...........

    I am flying with you b............
  • ohhhla
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    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    Not really.

    We're the first humans and White and Asian came after.

    The first human was black.

    She's the mother to everyone on earth.

    Past, Present and future.

    damn, how old are you? im assuming you were there.

    so, did she have a fat ass? or was that something black women developed over time.

    Where you there when ? mary gave birth to baby Jesus???

    Did the detective need to be there to figure how it went down at the crime scene??

  • Premeer
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    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??
    @drew

    see, yo silly ass dont got ? .



  • Black Boy King
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??

    Yes......

    Perfect wrote: »
    Explain why you quoted me with the video please Drew. I'm high and I'm here to learn

    I thought you were refuting the vid.......

    If so refer to my previous post...........

    I am flying with you b............

    aight we here now
  • NeighborhoodNomad.
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    Being that basically every living organism has the exact same letters of DNA (ATCG) that make that being what it is, could it be possible that everything didn't evolve from one thing, but there are similarities because they are made with the same "ingredients" for lack of better words?

    Basically if I have eggs, flour, water, and sugar, I can make a vast array of foods. It all depends on the different variables/conditions that create that food. Like how much water did I use, at what temperature, and for how long etc... Pancakes and waffles are two different foods that have the same ingredients and similar features, but one didn't necessarily come from the other.

    As far as living organisms are concerned, EVERYTHING must adapt and overcome to survive, live, and thrive. Could it be possible that the strong survived and passed down its "strengths" to its offspring creating a "new/evolved" species?

    Just a thought. I'm here to learn
  • Copper
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??

    Yes......


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  • Premeer
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    i cant believe theres christians thats even attempting to take this argument serious like its a legit argument.
  • Drew_Ali
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    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    @Kai_Valya

    We should ask these Anti-Evolutionist

    Where is their nobel peace prize?

    Or their Peer-reviewed papers disproving it.

    i've got an even better one for them, why do they go to get a new flu shot every year. what was wrong with the shot they got last year

    @kai

    Please watch.....

    http://youtu.be/deS8zhtU4N0
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    I can't front, this thread makes no sense to me.. Idek what ya'll debating/discussing..
    100 Prime wrote: »
    so.... how did the computer make itself.

    fiddy.gif

    Well to sum it up......

    If you believe in the theory of evolution then......

    You also believe in this.......

    5904774644_2b9e062dc7_z.jpg

    On the low......

    It is more important than you can possibly imagine.........


    you're thinking about evolution in linear terms, and it doesn't work like that. individuals don't evolve, species don't evolve, populations evolve. individuals in a population vary and those that survive propgate their genes, over time the populations evolves. as this happens again and agian over millions of years you would end up with a very different species in one population than you would in the other one, based on what genes survived in the population and which were eliminated.

    evolution doesn't go in a straight line, it's ever more intricately branching web

    Different does not equal a new species.......

    "I also think that racial differences are a long way from being cosmetic, and there’s no evolutionary reason for us to be the homogeneous species that a lot of people claim we are- it would mean evolution stopped the day modern humans evolved, which is just anti-logic........

    There’s biological evidence to the contrary, like different gestation spans, twinning rates etc, and more recent genetics publications that have outright backed race as valid. Which will instantly label me as a racist in many peoples eyes, which is probably why a lot of publishing Phds don’t comment publicly on race"...........

    if it's different enough (as in two pop. not being able to produce viable offspring) yes that does equal a new species


    But this has never been observed..........


    speciation has never been observed? to different populations diverging and going on to result in different species has never occured? seriously?


    Seriously......

    Not one new species named from these "observations.......

    so you use a video from creationists to support your point? you've got to be kidding me

    Everything said in that video is academically correct................

    Mutation is the cause for a new flu shot every year........

    You don't go get an "ulf" shot one year and the "flu" the next........

    From year to year it is the influenza virus.......

    Nothing more nothing less.....

    The virus mutates but does not "evolve" into a new species........



    is it really? show me the studies and evidence that support the assertion that speciation never occurs, i'll wait

    Not to be pretentious......

    But you should be providing evidence that it does occur.......

    The main example used by evolutionists is Diane Dodd's fruit fly experiment........

    However......

    Diane Dodd's fruit flies are still fruit flies, regardless of whether they prefer mates who eat maltose or starch......

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrLc7pqWkbTYcNpd4Fd1UwZx8hsPNg4NWfYhOUbcpHjlV-7_zHVw

    http://wps.pearsoncustom.com/wps/media/objects/5697/5834441/ebook/htm/0cc6e.htm?14.07
  • ohhhla
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    If Speciation doesn't occurs.

    Explain how ? sapiens evolved.

    From their early homini ancestors???
  • Black Boy King
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    @Kai_Valya

    We should ask these Anti-Evolutionist

    Where is their nobel peace prize?

    Or their Peer-reviewed papers disproving it.

    i've got an even better one for them, why do they go to get a new flu shot every year. what was wrong with the shot they got last year

    @kai

    Please watch.....

    http://youtu.be/deS8zhtU4N0
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    I can't front, this thread makes no sense to me.. Idek what ya'll debating/discussing..
    100 Prime wrote: »
    so.... how did the computer make itself.

    fiddy.gif

    Well to sum it up......

    If you believe in the theory of evolution then......

    You also believe in this.......

    5904774644_2b9e062dc7_z.jpg

    On the low......

    It is more important than you can possibly imagine.........


    you're thinking about evolution in linear terms, and it doesn't work like that. individuals don't evolve, species don't evolve, populations evolve. individuals in a population vary and those that survive propgate their genes, over time the populations evolves. as this happens again and agian over millions of years you would end up with a very different species in one population than you would in the other one, based on what genes survived in the population and which were eliminated.

    evolution doesn't go in a straight line, it's ever more intricately branching web

    Different does not equal a new species.......

    "I also think that racial differences are a long way from being cosmetic, and there’s no evolutionary reason for us to be the homogeneous species that a lot of people claim we are- it would mean evolution stopped the day modern humans evolved, which is just anti-logic........

    There’s biological evidence to the contrary, like different gestation spans, twinning rates etc, and more recent genetics publications that have outright backed race as valid. Which will instantly label me as a racist in many peoples eyes, which is probably why a lot of publishing Phds don’t comment publicly on race"...........

    if it's different enough (as in two pop. not being able to produce viable offspring) yes that does equal a new species


    But this has never been observed..........


    speciation has never been observed? to different populations diverging and going on to result in different species has never occured? seriously?


    Seriously......

    Not one new species named from these "observations.......

    so you use a video from creationists to support your point? you've got to be kidding me

    Everything said in that video is academically correct................

    Mutation is the cause for a new flu shot every year........

    You don't go get an "ulf" shot one year and the "flu" the next........

    From year to year it is the influenza virus.......

    Nothing more nothing less.....

    The virus mutates but does not "evolve" into a new species........



    is it really? show me the studies and evidence that support the assertion that speciation never occurs, i'll wait

    Not to be pretentious......

    But you should be providing evidence that it does occur.......
    THIS


    I've been waiting for 7 pages
  • Drew_Ali
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    100 Prime wrote: »
    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??
    @drew

    see, yo silly ass dont got ? .



    I warned your stupid ass three times ? ? ......

    Take that ignorant ? to the donkey...............
  • The True Flesh
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    Are the posters on this forum that dumb? I guess so. This thread is showing how there are flaws in darwin's theory and has nothing to do with the Bible or 'creationism'

    If someones argument starts off with "evolution is a lie" .......then you're a fool for even indulging them in any further discussion.

    The video, as well as the article in 'New Scientist' magazine are SECULAR sources of information that have yet to be adressed at all so far.

    The whole concept of creation vs. evolution is for morons that don't understand sh*t.

    Whoever came into this thread talking about the Bible/and or religion is an idiot that just wants to be argumentative and are not worth dignifying with a reponse.

    The "dinosaurs became birds" comment is also moronic.


    This thread would have so much potential if intelligent people posted here.
  • Drew_Ali
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    ohhhla wrote: »
    If Speciation doesn't occurs.

    Explain how ? sapiens evolved.

    From their early homini ancestors???

    Excellent question......

    They were created................

    And changed over time into what you see today......

  • Copper
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    so my genetic sequence can change in a few years but inherited characteristics in populations cannot change through generations?
  • Premeer
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??
    @drew

    see, yo silly ass dont got ? .



    I warned your stupid ass three times ? ? ......

    Take that ignorant ? to the donkey...............

    ? you and yo punk ass warnings, boi!!!!
  • Drew_Ali
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    CopperKing wrote: »
    so my genetic sequence can change in a few years but inherited characteristics in populations cannot change through generations?

    Eureka......

    Humans will always be humans......

    Regardless of genetic mutations.......

    As bacteria has and will always be bacteria.....

  • Premeer
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    ? ass thread littered with a bunch of ? ass atheists
  • Copper
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    the changing of inherited characteristics through evolution over millions of years can result in a derivative amazingly different from the original...why this is so unbelievable to u is crazy
  • DMTxTHC
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    ohhhla wrote: »

    Where you there when ? mary gave birth to baby Jesus???

    To be fair, if she would've said the baby wasn't hers, she probably would've got stoned..
  • ohhhla
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    Kai isn't atheist.

    How many times must we say this to you??

    People who are of Religion can still accept Evolution of being true.

    You have this black and white thinking going on.
  • DMTxTHC
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    CopperKing wrote: »
    so u believe in mutation over a lifespan but not evolution over millions of years (generations) ??
    @drew

    see, yo silly ass dont got ? .



    I warned your stupid ass three times ? ? ......

    Take that ignorant ? to the donkey...............

    LOL, I thought ya'll was on the same side for the longest.. this thread is a mindfuck..
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    If Speciation doesn't occurs.

    Explain how ? sapiens evolved.

    From their early homini ancestors???

    Excellent question......

    They were created................

    And changed over time into what you see today......

    You believed we were created???

    What about the fossil records it's abundance of them??

    Common Ancestry is real, bruh.

    Look at the anatomy of Human and Chimpanzees

    And the DNA seals that proof.

    Evolution has been right for 150 years.
  • Copper
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    Perfect wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    @Kai_Valya

    We should ask these Anti-Evolutionist

    Where is their nobel peace prize?

    Or their Peer-reviewed papers disproving it.

    i've got an even better one for them, why do they go to get a new flu shot every year. what was wrong with the shot they got last year

    @kai

    Please watch.....

    http://youtu.be/deS8zhtU4N0
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    I can't front, this thread makes no sense to me.. Idek what ya'll debating/discussing..
    100 Prime wrote: »
    so.... how did the computer make itself.

    fiddy.gif

    Well to sum it up......

    If you believe in the theory of evolution then......

    You also believe in this.......

    5904774644_2b9e062dc7_z.jpg

    On the low......

    It is more important than you can possibly imagine.........


    you're thinking about evolution in linear terms, and it doesn't work like that. individuals don't evolve, species don't evolve, populations evolve. individuals in a population vary and those that survive propgate their genes, over time the populations evolves. as this happens again and agian over millions of years you would end up with a very different species in one population than you would in the other one, based on what genes survived in the population and which were eliminated.

    evolution doesn't go in a straight line, it's ever more intricately branching web

    Different does not equal a new species.......

    "I also think that racial differences are a long way from being cosmetic, and there’s no evolutionary reason for us to be the homogeneous species that a lot of people claim we are- it would mean evolution stopped the day modern humans evolved, which is just anti-logic........

    There’s biological evidence to the contrary, like different gestation spans, twinning rates etc, and more recent genetics publications that have outright backed race as valid. Which will instantly label me as a racist in many peoples eyes, which is probably why a lot of publishing Phds don’t comment publicly on race"...........

    if it's different enough (as in two pop. not being able to produce viable offspring) yes that does equal a new species


    But this has never been observed..........


    speciation has never been observed? to different populations diverging and going on to result in different species has never occured? seriously?


    Seriously......

    Not one new species named from these "observations.......

    so you use a video from creationists to support your point? you've got to be kidding me

    Everything said in that video is academically correct................

    Mutation is the cause for a new flu shot every year........

    You don't go get an "ulf" shot one year and the "flu" the next........

    From year to year it is the influenza virus.......

    Nothing more nothing less.....

    The virus mutates but does not "evolve" into a new species........



    is it really? show me the studies and evidence that support the assertion that speciation never occurs, i'll wait

    Not to be pretentious......

    But you should be providing evidence that it does occur.......
    THIS


    I've been waiting for 7 pages

    u have the dumbest post in this mufuka....shuddup
  • Drew_Ali
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    CopperKing wrote: »
    the changing of inherited characteristics through evolution over millions of years can result in a derivative amazingly different from the original...why this is so unbelievable to u is crazy

    That is not unbelievable.......

    But one species "evolving" into many is cray...............

  • Premeer
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    ohhhla wrote: »
    Kai isn't atheist.

    How many times must we say this to you??

    People who are of Religion can still accept Evolution of being true.

    You have this black and white thinking going on.

    oh so adam and eve were chimps..... so that must mean Jesus was something like a cave man.