Bill Gates: There's no scientific explanation of how it (the universe) came about!

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  • Bodhi
    Bodhi Members Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    There could in fact be plenty of Lebrons running around.

    I know 6'8 ? that don't give a damn about sports.
    We have no idea what they could be if they pushed themselves to the limit.

    Also plenty of pigs are in terrible environments.
    ? poor conditions, crowded, sickness etc
    Jimmy Dean ? them up at the slaughter house.
    Wouldn't that be the basis for some type of physical change or naw?

    Lol.. The point was that if species could decide their evolutionary route, there would be more talented people.

    It would, but the change is too great for evolution to tackle. The pig has become physically unfit for flight. First, it's too big. Secondly, its bones are too dense. Third, it walks on all fours. There is no point where a pig would even get the opportunity to do something like that.
  • kzzl
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    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    So basically you're peddling off speculation as proven fact? And In turn betting your own soul on a complete farce?

    You should be smart enough to realize that's the same thing you're doing with jesus. Big as a house, but you acting like your brain is smaller than a mustard seed.

    1. My faith is based on evidence.

    2. My faith rests and resides in proven, tried, and tested truth.

    3. My faith is like a mustard seed, with the ability to move mountains.

    Will you accept Christ as your Savior today?

    You don't have proof of anything. You just be doing too much on here. Your level of delusion is a special one that people have. I think you're hiding from something and jesus is the wall you're using for cover. Just a safety net from whatever reality you trying to escape.

    Strip yourself of your religion and ask yourself what you've got left. Is it a man that you're willing to face in the mirror?

    1. The only thing I'm covered in is the blood of Jesus Christ which cleanses me from all sin! Hallelujah!

    2. My ? is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and are safe!

    3. Religion isn't my savior. Jesus Christ the solid rock is my savior! Can I lead you down the Romans road today?

    Wow... this ? really is that damn crazy. Can't even reach him on some real ? . You must of really been a ? up guy before whatever it was that made you like this.

    You know who you remind me of? You ever seen that movie, "Pain & Gain"? Came out last year. There's this character that Dwayne Johnson plays....

    859d22084db4570e01a6683ec0b39307.jpg ... that's exactly who you sound like.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Modern birds (and bats) have reduced but still visible hands that are remnants of their reptile ancestry.

    homology_550.jpg

    The Archaeopteryx, discovered about 150 years ago, has more distinct hands than those of modern birds but plumage covers the body. The fossil record clearly shows feathers along its tail and wings. Yet the Archaeopteryx has teeth like a reptile.

    Archaeopteryx_2.jpg


    We don't believe you, you need
    more people!

    Will Berkeley do?

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_06


    Lol @ the evolutionists clinging to archaeopteryx like their life depended on it. Sorry but your precious idol is just a bird. Stop grasping for air, it's fruitless. Amen
  • Bodhi
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Modern birds (and bats) have reduced but still visible hands that are remnants of their reptile ancestry.

    homology_550.jpg

    The Archaeopteryx, discovered about 150 years ago, has more distinct hands than those of modern birds but plumage covers the body. The fossil record clearly shows feathers along its tail and wings. Yet the Archaeopteryx has teeth like a reptile.

    Archaeopteryx_2.jpg


    We don't believe you, you need
    more people!

    Will Berkeley do?

    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_06


    Lol @ the evolutionists clinging to archaeopteryx like their life depended on it. Sorry but your precious idol is just a bird. Stop grasping for air, it's fruitless. Amen

    There are earlier forms. Archaeopteryx is just the first discovered bird. Since then, there have been earlier species that show a less evolved plumage and point closer to the reptile lineage.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    I don't get why a pig wouldn't be able to grow wings or anything else for that matter.

    Science says we started in the ocean.
    whatever was in the ocean realized that there was land and figured it would be more beneficial to live on land.
    some years later that animal made its way to live on land and started to grow legs.

    Evolution also says a giraffe used to have short necks therefore they couldn't reach the trees to get food.
    Years later they grew long necks to adapt.

    With that thinking a pig could say you know what I think wanna fly because it would be beneficial for me to do so.
    Years later pigs can fly.

    I fail to see the difference.
    you don't dictate your evolutionary changes, your environment does. you don't just randomly decide to become something different & then it happens.

    do you know how many usain bolts & lebron james' would be running around if this was possible?

    Huh?

    what didn't you understand my brother?

    Whatever point you were trying to make. It made no sense.

  • atribecalledgabi
    atribecalledgabi Members, Moderators Posts: 14,063 Regulator
    edited March 2014
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    There could in fact be plenty of Lebrons running around.

    I know 6'8 ? that don't give a damn about sports.
    We have no idea what they could be if they pushed themselves to the limit.

    Also plenty of pigs are in terrible environments.
    ? poor conditions, crowded, sickness etc
    Jimmy Dean ? them up at the slaughter house.
    Wouldn't that be the basis for some type of physical change or naw?

    just by reproducing we are always physically changing bruh...just because the species is the same doesn't mean they're actually staying the same. & there are differences between free range animals & factory farmed animals. fat deposits, muscle mass, etc.

    the average male is a foot shorter than bron & can't sprint nearly as fast as bolt. if everyone had the ability to biologically change themselves like you're suggesting, the average male would be closer to them.
  • Breezy_Kilroy
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    And evolution doesn't consciously change one species into something else so it can't just break down a pig and put it back together as some new form ? nilly

    Aaaaand why not?
    Evolution says we evolved from single cell organisms into multi cell organisms.

    In fact how did this happen? Real question btw

    Science tells us that you need life to create life.
    You take some dna from here and some dna from over there put it together and BOOM you have life.
    That is an undisputable fact

    At what point was this single cell organism able to create all kinds of life from itself?
    Even if it did reproduce (assuming it was asexual) wouldn't its offspring have the same genetic makeup?

    Single cell + single cell = multi cellular organism??

    I thought if you mate two organisms you were going to get a copy, not something else.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    for my own sanity...the problem people are having with evolution is just about the beginning of species right?
    people ain't denying the observable changes...like poaching causing elephants to not have tusks...wolves to dogs & ? like that right?

    Micro evolution can be observed. It's a change (watch this now) within a species!

    Macro evolution has never been observed, will never be observed, and can never be observed because it is a LIE. One species doesn't morph, evolve, change, or teleport into a completely different species because of (whatever) factors you won't to throw out there. It just does not happen.

    ? created everything thing after their own KIND! That is why Adam could not find someone who was "like him" when he named all the animals.

    Amen.
  • atribecalledgabi
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    I don't get why a pig wouldn't be able to grow wings or anything else for that matter.

    Science says we started in the ocean.
    whatever was in the ocean realized that there was land and figured it would be more beneficial to live on land.
    some years later that animal made its way to live on land and started to grow legs.

    Evolution also says a giraffe used to have short necks therefore they couldn't reach the trees to get food.
    Years later they grew long necks to adapt.

    With that thinking a pig could say you know what I think wanna fly because it would be beneficial for me to do so.
    Years later pigs can fly.

    I fail to see the difference.
    you don't dictate your evolutionary changes, your environment does. you don't just randomly decide to become something different & then it happens.

    do you know how many usain bolts & lebron james' would be running around if this was possible?

    Huh?

    what didn't you understand my brother?

    Whatever point you were trying to make. It made no sense.

    it did.

    but do you.
  • kzzl
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    What was even the point of using Bill Gates as some messenger of scientific cosmic study?

    Academically, what does this guy even have for his opinion to contend with the worlds top leading Space scientist?

    Whatever you believe, piggybacking off a computer nerd about cosmic study is not helpful for any of us. But it's interesting that you're giving a man most known for his wealth such a pedestal.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    J-Breezy wrote: »
    There could in fact be plenty of Lebrons running around.

    I know 6'8 ? that don't give a damn about sports.
    We have no idea what they could be if they pushed themselves to the limit.

    Also plenty of pigs are in terrible environments.
    ? poor conditions, crowded, sickness etc
    Jimmy Dean ? them up at the slaughter house.
    Wouldn't that be the basis for some type of physical change or naw?

    Lol.. The point was that if species could decide their evolutionary route, there would be more talented people.

    It would, but the change is too great for evolution to tackle. The pig has become physically unfit for flight. First, it's too big. Secondly, its bones are too dense. Third, it walks on all fours. There is no point where a pig would even get the opportunity to do something like that.

    Just when I think I have laughed enough, oceanic outdoes himself.

    So a pig has no opportunity to fly, but yet a fish has the opportunity to decide it wants to leave water, survive on land, grow legs, and transform into a brontosaurus?

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

    This is just too good! I love the IC
  • Bodhi
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    J-Breezy wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    And evolution doesn't consciously change one species into something else so it can't just break down a pig and put it back together as some new form ? nilly

    Aaaaand why not?
    Evolution says we evolved from single cell organisms into multi cell organisms.

    In fact how did this happen? Real question btw

    Science tells us that you need life to create life.
    You take some dna from here and some dna from over there put it together and BOOM you have life.
    That is an undisputable fact

    At what point was this single cell organism able to create all kinds of life from itself?
    Even if it did reproduce (assuming it was asexual) wouldn't its offspring have the same genetic makeup?

    Single cell + single cell = multi cellular organism??

    I thought if you mate two organisms you were going to get a copy, not something else.

    wait, what?
    Bruh, I said that evolution doesn't consciously make decisions to create a species. In other words, there is no person controlling evolution .. Nature does not work toward an end goal and on the flipside, animals don't consciously decide their evolutionary paths as you suggested. A pig can't DECIDE that he wants to fly and boom, pigs grow wings.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    So basically you're peddling off speculation as proven fact? And In turn betting your own soul on a complete farce?

    You should be smart enough to realize that's the same thing you're doing with jesus. Big as a house, but you acting like your brain is smaller than a mustard seed.

    1. My faith is based on evidence.

    2. My faith rests and resides in proven, tried, and tested truth.

    3. My faith is like a mustard seed, with the ability to move mountains.

    Will you accept Christ as your Savior today?

    You don't have proof of anything. You just be doing too much on here. Your level of delusion is a special one that people have. I think you're hiding from something and jesus is the wall you're using for cover. Just a safety net from whatever reality you trying to escape.

    Strip yourself of your religion and ask yourself what you've got left. Is it a man that you're willing to face in the mirror?

    1. The only thing I'm covered in is the blood of Jesus Christ
    which cleanses me from all sin! Hallelujah!

    2. My ? is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and are safe!

    3. Religion isn't my savior. Jesus Christ the solid rock is my savior! Can I lead you down the Romans road today?

    Wow... this ? really is that damn crazy. Can't even reach him on some real ? . You must of really been a ? up guy before whatever it was that made you like this.

    You know who you remind me of? You ever seen that movie, "Pain & Gain"? Came out last year. There's this character that Dwayne Johnson plays....

    [img]https://dceqiz5mzs7j4.cloudfront.net/app/public/system/zin e_images/121641/hunt/859d22084db4570e01a6683ec0b39307.jpg[/img] ... that's exactly who you sound like.

    I haven't seen the movie yet. But I am crazy about Jesus!

    He's forgiven me of ALL my sin and accepted me into His family by giving me eternal life! How can any saved being not be crazy about the LORD?

    He's just so good! Can I introduce you to Him today?
  • Bodhi
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    for my own sanity...the problem people are having with evolution is just about the beginning of species right?
    people ain't denying the observable changes...like poaching causing elephants to not have tusks...wolves to dogs & ? like that right?

    Micro evolution can be observed. It's a change (watch this now) within a species!

    Macro evolution has never been observed, will never be observed, and can never be observed because it is a LIE. One species doesn't morph, evolve, change, or teleport into a completely different species because of (whatever) factors you won't to throw out there. It just does not happen.

    ? created everything thing after their own KIND! That is why Adam could not find someone who was "like him" when he named all the animals.

    Amen.

    if micro evolution can occur, so can macro evolution.

    all it takes is one small change to cause speciation.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    kzzl wrote: »
    What was even the point of using Bill Gates as some messenger of scientific cosmic study?

    Academically, what does this guy even have for his opinion to contend with the worlds top leading Space scientist?

    Whatever you believe, piggybacking off a computer nerd about cosmic study is not helpful for any of us. But it's interesting that you're giving a man most known for his wealth such a pedestal.

    The only reason why I made the thread was because of the anomaly that it presents. The bible clearly teaches that it is HARD for a rich man to enter into heaven, but yet it is still possible with ? !

    And here we have not just a rich man, but the richest man I the world who has confessed that he not only believes in ? , but that if makes perfect sense to believe in ? !

    Thread was worthy to be Mae based off that alone. Does it have any bearing on the salvation of my soul? No. My faith has already been rooted in the truth! Hallelujah! But maybe some lurker or participated in this thread will have seeds planted in them or watered that will one day produce fruit springing up into everlasting life. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    J-breezy dishing out that soul burning ether. How does life come from non-life? Dang that's that the ether that makes your soul hurt. Ouch
  • Bodhi
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    A fish has the opportunity to decide it wants to leave water, survive on land, grow legs

    20090228-giant_mudskipper-scaled-10001.jpg
  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    So basically you're peddling off speculation as proven fact? And In turn betting your own soul on a complete farce?

    You should be smart enough to realize that's the same thing you're doing with jesus. Big as a house, but you acting like your brain is smaller than a mustard seed.

    1. My faith is based on evidence.

    2. My faith rests and resides in proven, tried, and tested truth.

    3. My faith is like a mustard seed, with the ability to move mountains.

    Will you accept Christ as your Savior today?

    You don't have proof of anything. You just be doing too much on here. Your level of delusion is a special one that people have. I think you're hiding from something and jesus is the wall you're using for cover. Just a safety net from whatever reality you trying to escape.

    Strip yourself of your religion and ask yourself what you've got left. Is it a man that you're willing to face in the mirror?

    1. The only thing I'm covered in is the blood of Jesus Christ
    which cleanses me from all sin! Hallelujah!

    2. My ? is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and are safe!

    3. Religion isn't my savior. Jesus Christ the solid rock is my savior! Can I lead you down the Romans road today?

    Wow... this ? really is that damn crazy. Can't even reach him on some real ? . You must of really been a ? up guy before whatever it was that made you like this.

    You know who you remind me of? You ever seen that movie, "Pain & Gain"? Came out last year. There's this character that Dwayne Johnson plays....

    [img]https://dceqiz5mzs7j4.cloudfront.net/app/public/system/zin e_images/121641/hunt/859d22084db4570e01a6683ec0b39307.jpg[/img] ... that's exactly who you sound like.

    I haven't seen the movie yet. But I am crazy about Jesus!

    He's forgiven me of ALL my sin and accepted me into His family by giving me eternal life! How can any saved being not be crazy about the LORD?

    He's just so good! Can I introduce you to Him today?

    ? , I know you're crazy bout jesus. I completely agree with you about that. I'll pass on a introduction, though.

    I figure a guy that loves heaven and jesus as much as you has got to be walking round with a death wish. You walk around all day hoping to get hit by a truck or something?
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    J-Breezy wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    And evolution doesn't consciously change one species into something else so it can't just break down a pig and put it back together as some new form ? nilly

    Aaaaand why not?
    Evolution says we evolved from single cell organisms into multi cell organisms.

    In fact how did this happen? Real question btw

    Science tells us that you need life to create life.
    You take some dna from here and some dna from over there put it together and BOOM you have life.
    That is an undisputable fact

    At what point was this single cell organism able to create all kinds of life from itself?
    Even if it did reproduce (assuming it was asexual) wouldn't its offspring have the same genetic makeup?

    Single cell + single cell = multi cellular organism??

    I thought if you mate two organisms you were going to get a copy, not something else.

    wait, what?
    Bruh, I said that evolution doesn't consciously make decisions to create a species. In other words, there is no person controlling evolution .. Nature does not work toward an end goal and on the flipside, animals don't consciously decide their evolutionary paths as you suggested. A pig can't DECIDE that he wants to fly and boom, pigs grow wings.

    So who tells the fish to leave its natural habitat, somehow finagle it's way on land, some how survive on land, somehow grow legs, and then morph into bald eagle?

    Wheredeydodatat? Planet earth huh?
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
    DoUwant2go2Heaven Members Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    for my own sanity...the problem people are having with evolution is just about the beginning of species right?
    people ain't denying the observable changes...like poaching causing elephants to not have tusks...wolves to dogs & ? like that right?

    Micro evolution can be observed. It's a change (watch this now) within a species!

    Macro evolution has never been observed, will never be observed, and can never be observed because it is a LIE. One species doesn't morph, evolve, change, or teleport into a completely different species because of (whatever) factors you won't to throw out there. It just does not happen.

    ? created everything thing after their own KIND! That is why Adam could not find someone who was "like him" when he named all the animals.

    Amen.

    if micro evolution can occur, so can macro evolution.

    all it takes is one small change to cause speciation.

    If humans can some how evoke to grow gills we can live in the water as well. All it takes is one small change to cause speciation! You know kind of like this

    image.jpg
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    A fish has the opportunity to decide it wants to leave water, survive on land, grow legs

    20090228-giant_mudskipper-scaled-10001.jpg

    Show me the fish growing legs. Oh yeah that's how ? created it. Never mind.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    kzzl wrote: »
    So basically you're peddling off speculation as proven fact? And In turn betting your own soul on a complete farce?

    You should be smart enough to realize that's the same thing you're doing with jesus. Big as a house, but you acting like your brain is smaller than a mustard seed.

    1. My faith is based on evidence.

    2. My faith rests and resides in proven, tried, and tested truth.

    3. My faith is like a mustard seed, with the ability to move mountains.

    Will you accept Christ as your Savior today?

    You don't have proof of anything. You just be doing too much on here. Your level of delusion is a special one that people have. I think you're hiding from something and jesus is the wall you're using for cover. Just a safety net from whatever reality you trying to escape.

    Strip yourself of your religion and ask yourself what you've got left. Is it a man that you're willing to face in the mirror?

    1. The only thing I'm covered in is the blood of Jesus Christ
    which cleanses me from all sin! Hallelujah!

    2. My ? is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and are safe!

    3. Religion isn't my savior. Jesus Christ the solid rock is my savior! Can I lead you down the Romans road today?

    Wow... this ? really is that damn crazy. Can't even reach him on some real ? . You must of really been a ? up guy before whatever it was that made you like this.

    You know who you remind me of? You ever seen that movie, "Pain & Gain"? Came out last year. There's this character that Dwayne Johnson plays....

    [img]https://dceqiz5mzs7j4.cloudfront.net/app/public/system/zin e_images/121641/hunt/859d22084db4570e01a6683ec0b39307.jpg[/img] ... that's exactly who you sound like.

    I haven't seen the movie yet. But I am crazy about Jesus!

    He's forgiven me of ALL my sin and accepted me into His family by giving me eternal life! How can any saved being not be crazy about the LORD?

    He's just so good! Can I introduce you to Him today?

    ? , I know you're crazy bout jesus. I completely agree with you about that. I'll pass on a introduction, though.

    I figure a guy that loves heaven
    and jesus as much as you has got to be walking round with a
    death wish. You walk around all day hoping to get hit by a truck or something?
    Nah, I walk around everyday seeking to
    Glorify ? by letting my light shine before men, so that they can see the work of ? in me and thus glorify the King of the universe!

    He loves you my friend. Behold, He stands at the door and knocks! Will you let Him in?
  • Bodhi
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    J-Breezy wrote: »
    Oceanic wrote: »
    And evolution doesn't consciously change one species into something else so it can't just break down a pig and put it back together as some new form ? nilly

    Aaaaand why not?
    Evolution says we evolved from single cell organisms into multi cell organisms.

    In fact how did this happen? Real question btw

    Science tells us that you need life to create life.
    You take some dna from here and some dna from over there put it together and BOOM you have life.
    That is an undisputable fact

    At what point was this single cell organism able to create all kinds of life from itself?
    Even if it did reproduce (assuming it was asexual) wouldn't its offspring have the same genetic makeup?

    Single cell + single cell = multi cellular organism??

    I thought if you mate two organisms you were going to get a copy, not something else.

    wait, what?
    Bruh, I said that evolution doesn't consciously make decisions to create a species. In other words, there is no person controlling evolution .. Nature does not work toward an end goal and on the flipside, animals don't consciously decide their evolutionary paths as you suggested. A pig can't DECIDE that he wants to fly and boom, pigs grow wings.

    So who tells the fish to leave its natural habitat, somehow finagle it's way on land, some how survive on land, somehow grow legs?


    No one tells it to.
  • Bodhi
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    Oceanic wrote: »
    A fish has the opportunity to decide it wants to leave water, survive on land, grow legs

    20090228-giant_mudskipper-scaled-10001.jpg

    Show me the fish growing legs. Oh yeah that's how ? created it. Never mind.

    Evolution doesn't occur over the course of minutes.
  • kzzl
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    kzzl wrote: »
    What was even the point of using Bill Gates as some messenger of scientific cosmic study?

    Academically, what does this guy even have for his opinion to contend with the worlds top leading Space scientist?

    Whatever you believe, piggybacking off a computer nerd about cosmic study is not helpful for any of us. But it's interesting that you're giving a man most known for his wealth such a pedestal.

    The only reason why I made the thread was because of the anomaly that it presents. The bible clearly teaches that it is HARD for a rich man to enter into heaven, but yet it is still possible with ? !

    And here we have not just a rich man, but the richest man I the world who has confessed that he not only believes in ? , but that if makes perfect sense to believe in ? !

    Thread was worthy to be Mae based off that alone. Does it have any bearing on the salvation of my soul? No. My faith has already been rooted in the truth! Hallelujah! But maybe some lurker or participated in this thread will have seeds planted in them or watered that will one day produce fruit springing up into everlasting life. Amen.

    So you just used him cause he's rich. These "lost souls" are suppose to turn they life around cause the rich white man, lacking scholarly knowledge of this subject, said so.

    Your madness is impressive. You repeated black history in front of all of us in your own special way.